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Removing Unannounced Movies
Do we really need to talk about movies that may or may not be produced in the future. Paramount's financial situation is very precarious. I don't think any of these plans are concrete. This page needs a bit of a trim. Oldag07 (talk) 17:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- This was a strange and trivial change. Film productions frequently take years of development before they are produced. Furthermore, Paramount detailed/clarified that none of their announced films are cancelled -- confirming that they are still in development. Where exactly did you move the details User:Oldag07?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 06:28, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Look at the state of some of the future Star Trek films that currently are on this page:
- The Mark L. Smith film was cancelled [[2]].
- The Noah Hawley film was placed on hold by Paramount Pictures president Emma Watts source, current page, who took the franchise in a different direction.
- The Clarkson film was cancelled [[3]].
Is this page, already bloated as it is, really need more information about speculative films? A good compromise could be to compress all the bullet points into a single paragraph, except for the section 31 film, which has been greenlit and is in production. Oldag07 (talk) 12:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Removed the films that have questionable interpretation of sources:
- Mark L Smith film has been cancelled. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/dec/22/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-mark-l-smith-week-in-geek
- Noah Hawley Film has been cancelled https://geektyrant.com/news/noah-hawley-explains-how-his-star-trek-movie-fell-apart-due-to-stupid-hollywood-executives#:~:text=Fargo%20and%20Legion%20creator%20Noah,still%20in%20this%20insane%20mindset.
- Vazquez - Source does not mention Vazquez. Film was suppposed to be released in 2023
- Picard film:
- * https://variety.com/2024/tv/features/star-trek-future-starfleet-academy-section-31-michelle-yeoh-1235952301/
- "Should “Section 31” prove successful, Yeoh says she’s game for a sequel. And Kurtzman is already eyeing more opportunities for TV movies, including a possible follow-up to “Picard.”"
- https://trekmovie.com/2024/01/05/patrick-stewart-reveals-new-star-trek-movie-script-featuring-jean-luc-picard-is-in-the-works/ There is nothing in this source that states that anything is firm.
See
- I have gone further and removed the whole future section, this information is already detailed appropriately at List of Star Trek films and does not need to be duplicated here. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- As long as its detailed somewhere, whether in pros or bullets -- the average reader (who isn't a Star Trek fan) could benefit from reading the various scripts the studio has written. Furthermore, as I had stated before -- the studio clarified that none of the projects had been cancelled. This seems to override The Guardian, Geek Tyrant (side-note is this even a reliable source?), and Variety. Cheers m8s!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 16:22, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- DisneyMetalhead you have done some great work. We appreciate it. Oldag07 (talk) 16:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Redundant list of TV shows
Do we still need a section for all the series when there is a whole article that already does that at List of Star Trek television series? Feels like this is just leftover from before that article was created and was never cleaned-up. I propose we remove those sections and just have the overview table like we do for the films. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm willing to be swayed by other editors, but it does seem a bit redundant, and creates more work when updates are needed. DonIago (talk) 14:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- I can get behind this. Perhaps we can compress these into three major sections:
- Broadcast series TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT
- Streaming: DIS, PIC, SNW, Academy
- Animated: TAS, Lower Decks, Prodigy
- That would seem to draw a false distinction between the animated shows and the other two categories (especially since Lower Decks at least is a streaming show as well)? DonIago (talk) 20:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have suggested some alternate ideas for splitting up the list of TV shows at Talk:List of Star Trek television series#Splitting up the list of series. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I would think the most logical divide would be Animated and Live Action. Isn't that the standard division in most media articles? ——Digital Jedi Master (talk) 00:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- I feel that would be more arbitrary than some of the other suggestions, the three animated shows don't have much to do with one another. I think broadcast and streaming would make more sense because it keeps all the Kurtzman-era shows together. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the redundant sections but did not split the TV shows into sections yet, waiting for clearer consensus on the best direction for that. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Broadcast and streaming sounds fine to me. SonOfThornhill (talk) 13:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have moved this part of the discussion to Talk:List of Star Trek television series#Splitting up the list of series. I think it is better to keep it one place. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Broadcast and streaming sounds fine to me. SonOfThornhill (talk) 13:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the redundant sections but did not split the TV shows into sections yet, waiting for clearer consensus on the best direction for that. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- I feel that would be more arbitrary than some of the other suggestions, the three animated shows don't have much to do with one another. I think broadcast and streaming would make more sense because it keeps all the Kurtzman-era shows together. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
As long as there's are the same details and a similar layout on the List of Star Trek television series article, this doesn't seem controversial.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 16:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Moving episode ratings section
If we are moving individual sections for each of the shows, something I agree with, we should also move the top ten episodes section. I don't think it is controverial, so i will do so now. Oldag07 (talk) 16:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to the lists of Star Trek episodes page. I am not sure that is the best location. I am hesitant to create a whole new page of episode ratings. I am not sure if such a page would survive an AFD proposal. Oldag07 (talk)
- I am unsure whether the information should be included anywhere, but perhaps List of Star Trek television series#Critical response is more appropriate than the current location? - adamstom97 (talk) 11:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. I am hesitant to remove information outright. i am more of an advocate to spin the information off into sunpages. After looking very hard for a better location, the list of Star Trek television series seems the best out of a lot of not so great options. Oldag07 (talk) 12:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am unsure whether the information should be included anywhere, but perhaps List of Star Trek television series#Critical response is more appropriate than the current location? - adamstom97 (talk) 11:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Proposal to move the List of Star Trek episodes into the List of Star Trek lists
A proposal has been made to move the List of Star Trek episodes page into the List of Star Trek lists. Discussion Oldag07 (talk) 17:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)