Talk:Surety

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I dropped:

• Surety Bond Information, with FAQ

[1] commercial site that sells surety bonds. This is a commercial site, also, it addresses surety bonds, rather than suretyship in general. Ellsworth 00:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suretyship is a way of referring to the industry of surety bonds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.53.231 (talk) 16:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Previously the English form "Guarantee" was redirecting to Warranty which is not correct. I have redirected it here instead in the hope that it can help to move this article away from the heavy US bias. Dick G (talk) 23:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is just the same thing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.25.12.214 (talk) 00:04, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I will go ahead and merge these. II | (t - c) 01:25, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Guarantee#Notability/separate article. -- Trevj (talk) 12:13, 22 November 2013 (UTC) -- Trevj (talk) 12:13, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

• A merge would result in this title redirecting to the merge target. Perhaps that is the primary topic of the term. If not, then surely "surety" is a concept that can be discussed in an article of its own. bd2412 T 15:30, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

surety bond. II | (t - c) 03:41, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Then what is really needed here is an article on the concept of suretyship. bd2412 T 03:53, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The concept is pretty simple, and was described in my edit, while pointing to more detail at guarantee, which is the same thing (perhaps some jurisdictions have some subtle differences between the two). See for example this book Law of Guarantees, whose first sentence in the Preface is "the old joke among Wall Street lawyers, that the definition of a surety is a 'schmuck with pen', holds perhaps as true today ... it is a particular feature of the guarantee as an instrument that anybody who signs it is taking a very serious financial risk". What's your opinion on the best approach? One way forward is that we go back to my deduplication and removal of misleading content of this page. From there we need to figure out whether this or guarantee is the best parent, while ensuring that lay people who are looking for information on surety bonds don't confusingly find themselves reading about loan guarantees. II | (t - c) 03:31, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Given the little daylight between a

Surety bond and an explanation of any distinction. bd2412 T 12:13, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply

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At first glance, i say: absolutely. Well, almost, because i think that the merge should be the other way around, that is, this article be merged into

Surety bond. I found myself here while looking for an article about the company Surety LLC. --Jerome Potts (talk) 07:36, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply

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• Support, with this article being the merge target, since a surety bond is a bond in furtherance of surety. bd2412 T 12:47, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Came here while researching on sureties. P31?P40? (talk) 07:36, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Support.
  Surety bond should be merged into Surety. Surety is the broader concept and therefore deserves the encyclopedic page, since WP:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Canon Law Junkie §§§ Talk 16:44, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 19:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]