Talk:The House of the Dead

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The result of the move request was: moved. See enough support here to rename these pages. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (closed by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  00:14, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• The House of the Dead (series) → The House of the Dead
• The House of the Dead → The House of the Dead (disambiguation)

– This franchise based on the video game series is primary over the unrelated novel, with each related article (series, film, and video game) individually outpacing the novel's pageviews. Also,

• Support first move, oppose second. The Disambiguation page should be deleted. If you remove all the series articles, it's at most a
  WP:TWODABS situation._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 03:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]

• I was close to suggesting that, but the dab page has the novel, the opera, and the short note about mortuaries. Looking now, I also found "(The) House of the Dead" refers to a Torchwood radio play and a 1932 film based on the novel, and use of the phrase to describe a Stonehenge burial mound. I just get the sense that this dab will get more use in the future, and its pretty harmless to keep. Also, it lets the hatnote on the primary topic be simpler (pointing to one dab page rather than giving several options. -- Netoholic @ 05:16, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambiguations are not for partial title matches or "could be used to describe" situations. They are to disambiguate between titles that are the same, or practically the same. I only see two articles that could fall into that category, the novel and opera, hence
  WP:TWODABS._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:45, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]

• The novel, the opera, the Torchwood episode, the video game, the franchise. That's more than two. -- Netoholic @ 05:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. I support the idea behind these moves, but I'd say the series page should be moved to just "House of the Dead" and the dab should remain where it is. The latest game drops "The" from the name and both the films lack "the" in their titles. --Jtalledo (talk) 05:39, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• The article functions as a
  WP:CONCEPTDAB, therefore the disambiguation is still unnecessary._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:45, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]

• Oppose both moves @
  WP:ASTONISHment that The House of the Dead (novel) is not the primary topic. It's bad enough that the dab is where the novel should be, let alone The House of the Dead (video game) being made default. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:43, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]
  • Move (series) to
    The House of the Dead (video game series), series suggests a TV series to non gamer readers. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:22, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    • Fair points, and I see the argument that a classic novel shouldn't be secondary to a video game, but I think this is still
      WP:NCVG#Media franchise. -- Netoholic @ 19:52, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
      ]
• Support. Page views make the good
  WP:CONCEPTDAB for all of them. It's worth noting that the Dostoevsky book is known by other titles, such as "Notes from a Dead House" and "Notes from the House of the Dead", the latter of which is a recent major translation.--Cúchullain ^t/c 19:16, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Support both moves per Cuchullain. I am sympathetic to In icftu oculi's position, but the title of the novel varies in English scholarship. The dab page must remain per Netoholic. Dekimasuよ! 19:19, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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