Talk:The Voyage of the Beagle

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would someone be so kind and date exactly darwins description of a stinging bug in the article Triatominae ? thanks.--217.251.145.195 01:32, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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25 March 1835, info added to Triatominae ...dave souza 19:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply

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Barbara Shack 14:34, 29 November 2005 (UTC)I've added the following. The link validates it. "In Tasmania Darwin learnt that English settlers belonging to the Church of England hunted natives for fun and let dogs eat the corpses. [1]"[reply]

Interesting info about settlers hunting natives, good work with all the editing. Many thanks....dave souza 01:30, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This needs to be split into The Voyage of the Beagle, about the book, its influence, about its being seen as the genesis of Darwinian thought, and Second voyage of HMS Beagle about the voyage itself. — Dunc|☺ 17:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Essentially what you're proposing is that this article becomes sections 5, 6 and 8 only, with the rest being hived off to a new article about the voyage, and some new material added on the aftermath which at present is covered in the Inception of Darwin's theory article. The downside is that we end up with an article about the book referring to another article to say what the book's about, and an article about the voyage linking elsewhere to refer to the book that made the voyage famous. In my view this has some logic, but is unnecessary and in some ways makes navigation more complicated. ..dave souza, talk 23:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It has every logic in the world and is absolutely necessary. The current state is a mess. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 19:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify what you're proposing to do. .. dave souza, talk 22:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As per Dunc's proposal. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, there are now a lot of pages referring to the voyage linked to this book page. I've fixed the Darwin template: please go through the What links here list and check the others. Ta, ... dave souza, talk 13:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, thanks for your help. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 14:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw this after the split and think it is a terrible idea. Very confusing. Sure, there is some logic to it, but only after you come here and read the talk page and think about it - and even then it's not a strong case. It's a much stronger case to leave it as one whole article together. Most readers will find this strange, the book and voyage are usually discussed together. I've added a much needed top hat dab to help clarify the logic in the layout. -- Stbalbach 17:13, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly disagree. More than one book was written on the subject, and there are other historical sources about the voyage as well – obvious when you realise that this was the colonial age, when bureaucracy was strong in the Empire and record-keeping meticulous. I was confused because there weren't two articles. - Samsara (talk • contribs) 17:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. The split is a big improvement.--ragesoss 23:58, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I can see the merit, I was not aware it is of note outside the context of Darwin. I think the top hat dab is important, the majority of folks like myself will see the two as linked and not easily pick up the split in the lead section. -- Stbalbach 14:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"ideas which Darwin would later develop into his theory of evolution by natural selection are hinted at in his notes and in the book." --
Changed "hinted" to "prefigured".
AFAIK, Darwin was wondering about issues related to evolution during the Voyage, but did not develop his Theory of Evolution until reading Malthus in 1838. "Hinted" is often used to describe something that we know perfectly well, but do not want to explicitly say. Since AFAIK this was not the case with Darwin during the writing of Voyage, and since there is enormous popular misunderstanding about Darwin's ideas and life, I think that the more neutral term "prefigured" is better here. -- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 22:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

where did he travel to on the voyage —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.147.28.1 (talk) 14:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The list of chapter headings gives an outline, see Second voyage of HMS Beagle for more info. Darwin's itinerary on the voyage of the Beagle gives day by day detail!. . dave souza, talk 21:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think this article is excellent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.184.141.122 (talk) 10:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated, I'm sure all who've worked on the article thank you for that comment, . . dave souza, talk 19:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]