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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future: Ehrmann, W. W. (January 1940). "The Timucua Indians of Sixteenth Century Florida". The Florida Historical Quarterly. 18 (3): 168–191. Murray, Vince (May 1, 2008). "Hernando de Soto's great adventure". Ocala StarBanner. Retrieved September 19, 2023.

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Their center of power was along the St. Johns River from about Jacksonville to the upper basin; the area around St. Augustine was also important.

as The Timucua were not a single tribe, but rather a group of tribes speaking dialects of the Timucuan language, and there was no central authority. Moreover, the Potanos and the Northern Utinas of north central Florida were likely as powerful as the Agua Frescas of the lower St. Johns River or the Mocamas of the coast. --

Use as you wish. --Moni3 (talk) 17:50, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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For future reference in case this becomes accepted, or if anyone else wants to add it in. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 22:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is now a separate article on the Mocama; am trying to figure out how to clarify it here.--Parkwells (talk) 13:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've read the news articles that have come out about them, but I have to say I'm not sure exactly what the archaeologists are saying about the distinctness of the Mocama. The news articles seem to imply that they want the Mocama to be considered distinct from the other Timucua-speaking peoples of the area. But from the quotes from the professors themselves, it looks like they're just saying that the new research has revealed a lot more about the Mocama, not that they were more distinct than, say, the Potano or the Utina.--Cúchullain ^t/c 14:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article was moved without any discussion, and with no clean-up. I think that it would be better moved back to Timucua, where it had been for years. If it stays at Timucua people, then several other articles need to be fixed. I would ask that nothing be done to those other articles until we can discuss moving this article back. -- Donald Albury 00:28, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. A suffix of "people" or "tribe" is only necessary where the term is up in the air and needs to be disambiguated. Unilateral moves without discussion of articles that are being actively edited by others is inappropriate. -Uyvsdi (talk) 00:32, 11 March 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

I have recently created a map of the Timucua peoples and had it reviewed by Dr. John E Worth. I would like to update the map presented in the infobox with it. KiwiNova (talk) 20:35, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder about including all of the Safety Harbor culture area as Timucua. There is an argument that the Mocoso may spoken Timucua, but the Uzita were said to speak a different language than the Mocoso. Donald Albury 22:46, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Donald Albury I based my inclusion of the Uzita on Swanton's inclusion in his 1953 work, but I only mentioned the blurb, so I can see how that would be misleading. KiwiNova (talk) 23:18, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Swanton can be useful, or can be a problem. What I do know is that

Muscogean languages. The problem is that we know almost nothing about the language or languages spoken by the peoples of central and southern Florida. The current map used in the Timucua article is definitely too limited, but I do have my doubts about most of the area around Tampa Bay. I will also add that Wikipedia:Be bold is an editing guideline. If you feel confident in your map, add it. Donald Albury 00:09, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply

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