Talk:Variations on a Rococo Theme

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I know the work was revised by the composer at some point and a few of the variations were reordered, but the section starts off with the flugelhorn version which is a different (and more trivial) adaptation. Could someone who understands the composer-adaptation better clean this up a bit? DavidRF 15:42, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am a cellist, and am currently playing the Urtext edition published by Peters Edition, London. The IMSLP "original" full score and cello part differ in several places from this Urtext edition: the IMSLP Variation IV and the final coda after Variation VIII are actually reworkings by Fitzenhagen. This can be clearly seen in the Peters Urtext edition, which prints separately Tchaikovsky's original and Fitzenhagen's reworking for both these parts. Since the notes on the IMSLP page can't seem to be edited, I thought the next best thing would be to put the notice over here.Piatigorsky (talk) 13:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused about the statement that Tchaikovsky worked on this until 1941, when he died about 38 years prior to 1941.66.87.125.4 (talk) 20:38, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I think you've misread it.

Tchaikovsky wrote this piece for and with the help of Wilhelm Fitzenhagen, a German cellist and fellow-professor at the Moscow Conservatory. Fitzenhagen gave the premiere in Moscow on November 30, 1877, with Nikolai Rubinstein conducting. This was perhaps the only hearing of the Variations as Tchaikovsky wrote the piece until 1941, when it was played in Moscow without Fitzenhagen's by-then-standard emendations.

This is saying that the piece as Tchaikovsky wrote it was played at the 1877 premiere, but then probably not again until 1941. In between, what was played was the version that included Fitzenhagen's alterations, and this version had become the standard version. But if you find this sentence confusing, maybe other do too, and we ought to think abour recasting it. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 21:06, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fairly certain the article is notable, but the lead does not explain why. Very Average Editor (talk) 18:58, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]