Talk:Warren Goldstein

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Can someone upload his picture? http://www.uos.co.za/images/ChiefRabbiPic1.gif

Why was Goldstein's opinion of the film Trembling before G-d taken of the article? He said it and in general its an important issue within the world of Orthodox Judaism. I'm at a loss to understand why it was taken down. Is someone out there editing this article to make Rabbi Warren look opinionless?

It's not suitable for an encyclopedia article on the man himself - rather, it should be in the page on the film itself. If he had been a consultant for the film, or was featured in the film, it would be relevant. As it is, he wasn't. You simply cannot include comments on completely separate issues that a person might have made in an article on him - otherwise some articles would be 3000 pages long. Read the Wikipedia guidelines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.185.167.243 (talk) 14:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His opionion on the film was hugely significant as it centred around his broader views on gay and lesbians within the Orthodox community. It's not him simply announcing his favourite food or declaring democracy to be a good thing. It may not be part of the article, it may need to fall under a sub-heading etc. But it certainly deserves to be IN the piece about Goldstein.

This entire article is phrased in the most ridiculous way aimed at creating an almost saintly image of the Rabbi. For example, I have removed the line which declared that Goldstein is "fearless in challenging what he believes to be wrong, despite popular opinion" This is not acceptable. Furthermore, many other assertions lack citations, evidence or explinations. For example, the article refers twice to Goldsteins work in promoting "moral regeneration" in South Africa, as if "moral regeneration" is simple phrase when it is clearly a very specific idea of morality from the Rabbis perspective. What does "moral regenration" mean? What citations or other evidence can we use to show what it means according to Rabbi Goldstein?

And of course the article is totaly silent on the Goldstone Bartmitzvah affair? Why? Why is that totally absent?

I have no axe to grind- Warren Goldstein is a good man and he has done good things but you cannot use Wikipedia to start the legend of St Warren. Ty play by the rules. And so will I. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.8.120.133 (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have opened a discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Warren_Goldstein regarding the Goldstone issue. Gigs (talk) 15:44, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]