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Not biggest city, in biggest county, in biggest state east of the Mississippi

There is a reason Waycross stopped using that slogan almost 20 years ago. If you take the time to check the facts of the 50 states. You will see that of all the states east of the Mississippi river, Michigan is ranked 11th in size with 97,990 square miles, Florida is ranked 22nd in size with 65,795 square miles, and Wisconsin is ranked 23rd with 65,498 square miles, where as Georgia is ranked 24th in size with only 59,411 square miles. Thus making Michigan, NOT Georgia the biggest state east of the Mississipi River with Florida being the second largest, Wisconsin 3rd largest and Georgia 4th largest. So Waycross can only make the claim of being "the largest city, in the largest county in Georgia.Aladdin Zane 16:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who started the slogan? Why did they start it? --Mjrmtg 00:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Georgia is ranked 1st in total area, not land area. Tbone8425 17:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide a valid citation, showing how this is possible. Also you just stated it is 1st in total area, and the numbers I used above are for Total area. So you are mistaken. I grew up in Waycross, the slogan used by a local businessman on T-shirts he made in the 1980's was "Waycross, Georgia: The biggest city in the biggest county in the biggest state east of the mississipi" 1st thing: It is the ONLY city in Ware County, the word biggest would be based on the assumption there were more than one. 2nd Georgia is not the biggest state east of the mississippi.Aladdin Zane 17:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me, I meant "land area" instead of "total area." Big deal.Tbone8425 18:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No need to be excused, accidents happen. Land area only - doesn't count when naming the biggest states because the land under the water doesn't count, Only dry land area does. and the slogan wasn't "waycross, Georgia: the biggest city in the biggest county in the biggest state(land area only) east on the mississippi" or "waycross, georgia: the biggest city in the biggest county in the biggest state(excluding river area, lake area, and pond area) east of the mississippi:Aladdin Zane 18:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Whoever keeps adding that "Waycross is the biggest city in the biggest state" to this article, please stop. Go to
List of U.S. states by area and notice how Florida is bigger then Georgia in total area. --Mjrmtg (talk) 00:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Agreed. In reality, tiny Ahmeek, Michigan (0.1 square miles in area, population 157) is the largest incorporated place, in the largest county (Keweenaw County), in the largest state (Michigan) east of the Mississippi River. No cities exist in Keweenaw County, so no place in the United States can claim to be the "largest city, in the largest county, in the largest state east of the Mississippi River." Phizzy (talk) 20:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

There is a stub article for

Tebeauville, Georgia, which only consists of saying that this was a previous name for Waycross. This can be mentioned in this article, and the Tebeauville, Georgia article should be deleted. Fences and windows (talk) 21:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Waycross in two counties discussion - proposed rewrite of opening

There has been a discussion on User:Nyttend's talk page regarding whether Waycross is in Pierce and Ware counties. All of the evidence points to a multi-county split, but there is concern that the current opening is overly accurate, given that the majority of the city is in Ware County. I propose the following change to the opening paragraph (with associated references).

Waycross is a city located along the border between

U.S. Census Bureau, the population of this small section was estimated at just 9 people in 2007.[4]

  1. PDF). United States Census Bureau. 1992-09-29. p. III-4. Retrieved 2008-07-16. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help
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  2. ^ U.S. Census Bureau. Census 2000, Summary File 1. "GCT-PH1. Population, Housing Units, Area, and Density: 2000 - County -- Subdivision and Place". American FactFinder. <http://factfinder2.census.gov>. Retrieved 2008-01-31.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
  3. ^ "Find a County". National Association of Counties. Retrieved 2011-06-07.
  4. ^ "Subcounty population estimates: Georgia 2000-2006" (CSV). United States Census Bureau, Population Division. 2007-06-28. Retrieved 2008-05-28. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
Sounds good to me, except the (less then 1 square mile) part, just saying "small portion" should be just fine. --Mjrmtg (talk) 02:28, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why do we need to make the intro sentence any different from normal? It makes it sound as if it's a line, not the shape that it is, and it's altogether different from the way that virtually all multi-county municipalities are described nationwide. I agree that there's good reason to have something in the intro to note that virtually all the city is in Ware County, but as far as the first sentence, I don't see reason to change anything. Nyttend (talk) 04:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My understanding is that the first sentence is Swampfire's main objection. He/she doesn't want the article to state "Waycross is in Pierce County." I agree with you; there should be no reason why that first sentence cannot remain as is. Waycross is in Pierce County by all the available evidence, so the article must be reflective of that. However, given that an editor has raised objections to that specific wording, I thought I would propose a softer approach that says the same thing in a less overt manner, hoping to avoid constant reverts and a potential edit war. Hopefully, with the broader audience outside of the user talk pages, we can reach some sort of consensus. If the general view is to to leave the first sentence alone, that's fine with me. I just wanted to try this first.Dcmacnut (talk) 13:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please supply were you get your nationwide definition of multi-county municipality. Because if that is how you are trying to base your edit. The way I would understand a multicounty municipality Waycross does not fit it. So please provide a link of the definiton. Swampfire (talk) 00:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Multicounty = located in more then 1 county. Waycross is in more then 1 county. --Mjrmtg (talk) 01:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not what I said. Multi-county municipality. Because Nyttend said he based the wording on that. I believe in a multi-county municipality both counties would have administrative powers. And both counties citizens as eligible board members. Which is not the case here. Which is my exact point, This reads as if Waycross is operated by both counties. Which it is not. Swampfire (talk) 01:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A multi-county municipality is simply any municipality which has official boundaries extending into one or more counties. There's no "official" definition I know of. It is just the accepted standard for Wikipedia articles for cities like this, such as "X is is a city in A County and B County."

Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Guidelines
indicate article should include the location of the city in the state, which includes its county or counties. The guidelines don't specifically mention cities in two or more counties, but this is accepted practice by editors that has developed over time. Google Maps, Google Earth, and the Census maps (which are based on local official records) all show Waycross's boundaries extending into Pierce. It's not just a matter of people in Pierce County having a Waycross mailing address. The city actually crosses the border. Your Brantley County, Georgia example wouldn't apply in this case, because Waycross's official boundaries do not extend that far, according the maps.

The State of North Carolina uses the term Multi-County Municipality for its communities that cross county lines, with "Dominant County" being primary and "Other Counties" for the remainder. The State of Georgia doesn't use this term, but the Department of Revenue lists a portion of Waycross as within Pierce County. Click link and choose 2007/Pierce/Waycross from the drop-down menus.

List_of_U.S._cities_in_multiple_counties is an incomplete list of articles in Wikipedia like this. Waycross isn't on there yet, but several other Georgia cities are, like Atlanta. Brasselton is in four counties. In my state of North Dakota, there are Enderlin, Grandin, Lehr, Reynolds, Sarles, Tower City, and Wilton. All are in two counties and are taxed by both counties based on the portion in each. This is based on the North Dakota League of Cities annual taxable valuation. Tower City is the closest example to Waycross, since the populated portion of the city lies within Cass County, North Dakota, but the eastern boundary is in Barnes County
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I guess the question is how would you define a multi-county municipality? I want to try to incorporate your concerns, but I do not think we can avoid stating that part of Waycross is in Pierce. I was already making a concession by not explicitly stating "Waycross is in Pierce County" in the opening sentence. We could reword my original suggestion to match the Atlanta article, which says "Atlanta is the county seat of Fulton County, although a small portion of the city extends into DeKalb County." It would maintain Waycross's identity to Ware County as the county seat. Would that be acceptable? If not, I'm afraid we may have to agree to disagree, unless you can provide a map or other physical source that unequivocally shows that Google, the Census Bureau, and even the Georgia Municipal Association are wrong.Dcmacnut (talk) 02:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Waycross was incorporated as the county seat of Ware County on March 3, 1874. Piece County does not factor into that, nor can a Pierce County resident serve on Waycross' commision or be Mayor. Only residents living within the city of Waycross, in the county of Ware. With that being said it is not a multicounty municiplaty. Is Waycross a municipality Yes, Is it both counties Yes, It is a multicounty municipality No. That being said. It should not be worded as if both Pierce and Ware share the city.Swampfire (talk) 17:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Pierce and Ware counties do not share the city, the city exists in both counties. There is a difference. --Mjrmtg (talk) 17:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right, particularly since incorporated cities in Georgia are not also separate county subdivisions. This isn't always the case on other states. In North Dakota, cities are also county subdivisions, so a multi-county municipality is also an official sudivision of both counties. Since this isn't the case in Georgia, stating that part of Waycross "exists" within Pierce County does not change governance or imply Pierce jurisdiction over the area or entire city for that matter. Most cities are independent of their counties anyway, other than how tax revenues are redistributed. As a result, I've incorporated the changes above, based on the "Atlanta" option.Dcmacnut (talk) 20:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for you help in wording it.Swampfire (talk) 20:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Neighborhoods

Millwood Peachwood Branch Eastside Hatcher Point Garlington Heights Bailey Heights Sunnyside Deenwood Northside Jamestown Waresboro New Town Emerson Park Southside Wacona —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davon212 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Media

I am under the impression that the Media section should only pertain to "local" media. This should mean only stations (FM/AM/TV) and newspapers in Waycross/Ware County and it's immediate surrounding counties should be included.

If this is the case, than the majority of the stations listed should be deleted. --WinchesterLock (talk) 16:33, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are correct, should only pertain to "local" media. --Mjrmtg (talk) 16:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


  • I updated the Media section to deal with stations within a 30 mile radius. As such, I removed the multitude of Valdosta based stations that seemed to have predominantly populated the list. Also, WYNR and WWSN are both licensed in the city of Waycross, as such, I felt I should add them to the list. If you know of any additional stations within 30 miles of the city, feel free to add them. Thanks.

--WinchesterLock (talk) 21:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Famous people from Waycross

Tyler Perry's Madea character was from Louisiana, not Waycross —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.164.136.192 (talk) 19:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC) and for my understandin thqat waycross is on the boreder in that where the pacific ocean is so trhat means that half of the water that in the swamp it comes from the pacific ocean.[reply]

Cancer story

Why are so many people getting rare cancers in this small Georgia town? (answer, pollution, discussion see Hacker News) 86.164.181.214 (talk) 20:49, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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