Template:Did you know nominations/Del Riley (clerk)

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 19:41, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Del Riley (clerk)

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... ~~that Linn County clerk Del Riley pioneered Oregon's vote-by-mail system, now used as the only voting method in the state?~~ Source: https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2018/09/opinion_rememberingoregons_tru.html
ALT1 ... that Linn County clerk Del Riley established Oregon's vote-by-mail system, now used as the only voting method in the state? Source: https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2018/09/opinion_rememberingoregons_tru.html
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Just moved this out of my userspace into mainspace, think there's a DYK in it.

Created by 127(point)0(point)0(point)1 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:11, 31 December 2022 (UTC).

@127(point)0(point)0(point)1: I see two issues. The first is what exactly it means to "pioneer" a system, and the second is that the source provided is an opinion piece. I'll see if something else is a possible hook here. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:33, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

I'd be happy to welcome any alt hooks you could suggest! --(loopback) ping/whereis 07:10, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Reviewer needed to give this nomination a full review, and point out any issues that need to be addressed, possibly including those mentioned above. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:12, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 17:39, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

General eligibility:

New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems: - Introduction too short/work in progress

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral : Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - Better wording needed/replace "pioneering"

QPQ: None required.

Overall:

WP:DYKCRIT. A better introduction will include that he was an American and/or Canadian, an elected official, and the start and end years of his term. Receiving a purple heart for miltary service also seems important enough to mention in the introduction. The proposed hook is reasonably interesting, and verified by the source, but I suggest substituting the word "established" for "pioneered" since the meaning is not universally clear. Overall the article is in decent shape and needs only minor work. Flibirigit (talk

) 18:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

@Flibirigit: Implemented the changes you identified as being helpful. Nationality and purple heart in lede and years of his term in office. I did change pioneered, but instead of established I went with implemented for the article, but the alt-hook I put up uses your wording. Is there any other suggestions you have? --(loopback) ping/whereis 09:47, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I relocated the above comment to come after the review, to keep this thread in the correct order. Flibirigit (talk) 22:50, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I have done some more copyediting on the article. Citations are needed for his birth and death years, preferably in the body instead of the introduction. Also, please clarify the "[by whom?]" tag in the "Vote-by-mail advocacy" section. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 22:59, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the nominator has not edited since February 22. It would be ashame to reject this nomination as abandoned. I will post at
WT:DYK for adoption. Flibirigit (talk
) 15:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Flibirigit, I think I've addressed those two points. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:01, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

ALT1 now approved. Article adheres to all other DYK criteria. @Eddie891:, thank you. Flibirigit (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2023 (UTC)