Template:Did you know nominations/Frank Spooner Churchill

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Frank Spooner Churchill

• ... that American pediatrician Frank Spooner Churchill (pictured) believed that breast milk could be spoiled if the mother was anxious?

• Reviewed: Acanthemblemaria maria

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 00:52, 18 August 2018 (UTC).

Invalid status "dyk?" - use one of "y", "?", "maybe", "no" or "again"

Article was made recently and is well over 6000 bytes. Hook is interesting and cited. While the article is sourced, there are some sourcing issues. *Lead - "From Milton, Massachusetts and then a graduate of Harvard University," maybe reword to "After graduating from Harvard University"

• Career:
  • ref needed for his positions at Cook County or Presbyterian Hospitals (the snaccooperative ref has it).
  • "He was also associate professor of paediatrics at Rush Medical College" - needs rewording as it's an exact copy of the snac sentence.
  • "He was resident physician..." close paraphrasing of the american philosophical society ref
• Breastfeeding: While the 1896 study is mentioned in the JSTOR ref, I'm not seeing "showed that of over 700 babies who died of diarrhoea, less than 5% were breastfed". I could have missed it.
• Further paediatric work: I believe all sentences in this section need rewording to avoid close paraphrasing.

In regards to the picture, the book ref does not state a year so I cannot confirm the picture is from circa 1917. A QPD is also required. Otherwise, the article looks good. When the paraphrasing is cleared up, the article will be almost ready to go. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:50, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)If the "plagiarism" is a result of this report (which returns "violation unlikely" 20%), then the words copied from the relevant source seem to be direct transcriptions of titles or proper nouns, that can't really be written any other way. Sure, you could shave a few points off the copyvio detector here and there, but not much. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: To be honest, I checked each individual source without earwig. I'll strike the medical college one, but there are a few other paraphrasing issues. Please see the paediatric work paragraph and the expedition sentence. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I think it's been tweaked so it doesn't match now, but surely if the source was published in 1912 it's PD anyway, right? :-/ Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I have done most of these including the Jewish German and Austrian psychiatrists. It's hard to know how else to phrase that one. Will look at the 5% claim too. QPQ on its way. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you all. I'll go through article again. Yes..appointments are difficult to rephrase...but will will check.Whispyhistory (talk) 21:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

No claim is made in the article about the year of the picture. For Commons it just has to be before 1923. He served in the First World War and the sources do not mention any other military service. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:46, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

QPQ done by Whispyhistory, thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Whispyhistory: @Philafrenzy: As the article have been updated: Lead was tweaked, ref was added, QPD done, image is free as presumed, most of the paraphrasing is fixed. The only leftovers to do are:

*In The JSTOR source, I don't see the 1896 study "showed that of over 700 babies who died of diarrhoea, less than 5% were breastfed". I added this last so you may not have seen it. The study is cited on page 100 and the original study is available on HathTrust. Did I miss the percentage in the JSTOR source? *Wasserman and U.S government sentences may need rewording to avoid close paraphrasing. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I just looked and didn't see the matches. Could you quote please? Philafrenzy (talk) 23:07, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Philafrenzy: "prevalence of congenital syphilis" is exact match (American journal of sociology) while "to establish child guidance clinics..." closely paraphrases the last sentence of the 2nd paragraph (pg 24. Raising the World). If prevalence is turned into a quote, that would work for me, but the child gudiance sentence follows the same format of the book. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:37, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, changed "prevalence" to "existence" and "child guidance clinics" to "guidance clinics for children". I expect that Whispyhistory will comment on the remaining point about 5% tomorrow.

Philafrenzy (talk) 23:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Philafrenzy: Okay. Close paraphrasing is cleared. Thanks for working on it :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:57, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

• Thank you both. …study of 718 babies who died of diarrhea, only 4% were breastfed. Frank Spooner Churchill, “Infant Feeding,” Chicago Medical Recorder 10 (February1896). end note.13 Whispyhistory (talk) 05:29, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

It does say that but the original article "Infant Feeding", since found by MrLinkinPark333, only gives case studies and tables but no statistics that I can see. I have changed the section accordingly. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Since all of the issues have been resolved, I approve the hook. Good work. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:26, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Great reviewing! Philafrenzy (talk) 18:25, 21 August 2018 (UTC)