Template talk:National symbols of Iran

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single, coherent subject. Pahlevun (talk) 14:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Muhammad 14:31, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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AmirMuhammad1: Make arguments on why your opinion is right, instead of unrelated talk or the discussion would be a waste of time. Pahlevun (talk) 14:34, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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@Pahlevun: i said for thousand time my friend . im a a member of iran project . for a long time im editing and making iran project related articles . it just means im improving all of iran project related . please before any edit, mention me or other specialist . u r vandalizing a person said u . im not first guy see it here. all of your edit was just vandalizing cuz u delete article-by-article this template without any discussion for a few days and its just means Vandalism . pls dont resume this talk . cuz i have to go . and then i improve and delte errors . please dont delete and destroy this legal template. ur after me and its just Wikipedia:Witchhunt. bye . be happy and wealthy my friend.

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AmirMuhammad1: No arguments seen. I'm done discussing with you. Pahlevun (talk) 10:42, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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@LouisAragon, Rye-96, and JJMC89: Hello. Please comment on the criteria to link articles in the template. I think the only undisputable solution is linking official symbols adopted by Iranian governments. Pahlevun (talk) 10:46, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Muhammad 13:18, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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AmirMuhammad1: That's why you have linked Imperial Standards of Iran in the template? Anyway, There are two kinds of national symbols: official and unofficial. National symbol#Common official national symbols like flags, emblems, etc. are simply adopted by governments (that's what makes it official) and cannot be disputed. Unofficial symbols are highly disputable. For example, I don't consider Chaharshanbe Suri to be "national symbol", it's simply a ritual event rooting in ancient Persian empires. Pahlevun (talk) 13:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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hey man do not speak like you are a member of

Muhammad 13:51, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Many things were created and formed by the former empires of Iran and of equally many things, Iran is the sole legitimate "historical" owner. Many events in Iranian history are immortalized (e.g. Babak Khorammdins uprising, the Constitutional Revolution of the early 20th century, etc. etc.), and many celebrations are indeed verifiably (but unoficcially) considered "Iranian national symbols". However, I don't see the urge, or rather, necessity, to create a template for all these events and matters as it's way too open for personal interpretation, and any invidivual may find a different array of events and figures more important than someone else does. There are many events and figures in Iranian history that are commonly accepted to be immortalized for example, however, the last 35 years created a new ruling layer in Iranian society who significantly (eufemism) differ in ideology and opinion as compared to the ruling layers before that, as well as of many Iranians (incl. academics) in general even nowadays both inside the nation as well as in the diaspora. As a result of that, there are quite a few Iranians who may find many other peoples and events very important or even consider those to be "national Iranian symbols". To put it short; as long as not a team of academics, or the government itself, have compiled some sort of list regarding "Iranian national symbols", please don't re-add it again. Its way too complex regarding the merits of who/what should be included, its way too open for self-interpretation, and way too prone for edit-warring. Also I don't think (@AmirMuhammad1) its the first time either that multiple editors are telling you to stop adding it. Lastly, @AmirMuhammad1; please don't falsely accuse other people in the future of "illegal" acts and "vandalism" when you don't seem to have the slightest clue what

WP:VANDAL actually means. Bests and thanks - LouisAragon (talk) 14:30, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Muhammad 18:37, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Upon second thought, I agree with the deletion, since the term "national symbol" implies a certain measure of officiality. Debresser (talk) 19:18, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]