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What really belongs in your Sandbox

Since everyone in your sandbox is supposed to behave and not kick sand at each other, it feels like a worthy place for me to build this for you. Enjoy!

Cute! Thanks! Montanabw^(talk) 18:35, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Riding techniques sandbox for possible new article

• First off, it needs a suitable, easy to find, obvious title.
• Second, it must not be a "how to" unless we want to move the project to wikibooks (note smackdown on horse grooming article.)

Tasks:

• obtain info on riding techniques from the following articles:
  • Equestrianism
  • Canter
  • Stirrup, particularly section on la brida and la jineta seats
  • Jumping position
  • Two-point
  • Equitation and linked articles
  • Riding aids

Others? List here! What about Aussie riding style (doubt very much whether you'll be able to find any published sources on it, though - those stockmen aren't renowned for their publications, lol!)

Outline:

• History? Actual sourced quotes on various seats- may find info in:
  • Horses in warfare
  • Domestication of the horse
  • Saddle and linked articles
  • Bridle and linked articles
  • Rein, Bit (horse), etc.
• Description of classical development of la brida and la jineta seats
• Ancient, Renaissance and Modern theorists who focus on rider's seat (as opposed to training techniques, though probably much crossover)
• Development of modern seats...forward seat in particular
• Basic position principles common to all seats, including:
  • Hands
  • legs and feet
  • body/base of support
  • use of voice

Actual article proposed text

(All is open to editing) Correct riding of horses (or whatever we title this) is...

History

(from people riding on the horses' butt in ancient art while being led by a groom to figuring out that they would be better off sitting just behind the withers, seat without stirrups (original la jineta), revolutionary impact of the stirrup (allowing la brida seat, for one thing) etc...

Development of la brida and la jineta and link to modern styles

Monglo invasions of eastern Europe and Islamic invasion of Spain a critical component of this, interplay of cultures, much cool stuff here.

Classical horsemanship masters

de la Guerinere (sp?), etc... those with a significant impact on the role of the rider an development of the seat), Caprilli, Decarpentry, etc...

You gotta have Alois Podhaksky (ex-director of the Spanish Riding School) Complete training of Horse and Rider in your hand / mind if you do stuff on classical. As far as classical / high-school training goes, it is my Bible. (ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) 16:52, 11 February 2011 (UTC))

Way ahead of you! My paperback copy fell apart!  ;-) The article idea I'm playing with here may avoid 20th century folks altogether and focus on the historical characters. Montanabw^(talk) 20:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Modern riding/Basic principles of Position to task

(Dressage to horse racing, etc...)

Rider position and the riding aids

Seat, hands, legs, etc., the nuts and bolts of the article

Swiped from horse article: Riders communicate with the horse through commands called aids. The main natural aids of the rider are the legs, the seat, the hands (through the reins) and the voice. The rider's legs generally tell the horse to move forward or to turn. The hands help to guide the horse in the direction of the turn, and ask the horse to either slow his tempo or to slow from a faster gait to a slower one. The seat is the most difficult aid to develop, and can communicate to the horse not only to speed up, but also to turn and slow down. The voice is used less when mounted than when on the ground, but may be used to reinforce the hands, seat and legs to speed up or slow down the horse.

Correct position allows for the rider to communicate effectively without getting in the way of the horse. Though the position appears to be slightly modified according to the type of riding that is being performed, the fundamental need to remain balanced over the horse at any given speed or discipline. Like most arts, riding takes years of practice to become competent, as the riders work to refine their aids and position, and learn "feel" - the sense of what the horse is doing underneath them.

From the time the horse was

The common European practice and tradition of saddling and mounting the horse from the left hand side is widely believed to originate from the practice of right-handed fighters carrying their sheathed sword on their left hip, making it easier to throw their right leg over the horse when mounting. To correctly mount a saddled horse, the rider gathers the reins in the left hand, resting it on the horse's withers, places his or her left foot into the left stirrup, , grabs onto the saddle with the right hand (the pommel if in an equitation competitition, more often the cantle in actual practice) and then uses the stirrup as leverage to spring up from the ground, swing the right leg over the horse and sit into the saddle, placing the right foot into the right stirrup. Horses can be mounted bareback with a vault from the ground, by grabbing the mane to provide leverage as a rider makes a small jump and uses the momentum of the leg to swing up in a single, smooth motion, or by "bellying over", a technique which involves placing both hands side by side on the horse's back, jumping up so that the rider lays belly down on the horse's back, and swinging the leg over to sit astride.

In actual practice, especially if the horse is tall, many riders use a fence, mounting block, or other object which can be stood upon to be able to simply slide onto the horse's back. This method, when available, is convenient for both horse and rider, as the horse is more comfortable not being accidentally jabbed by the legs and arms of the rider. However, as such objects are not always available, being able to mount from the ground is considered a standard riding skill necessary for most riders to learn.

References and external sources

Go along, sourcing all the way. (Easier to source as original article is created)

https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/9/26/16345476/stanford-psychologist-art-of-avoiding-assholes