User talk:ACP2011/Archive 15

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I have submitted Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled for you to have Autopatrolled permission, meaning that your new articles will not need new article review.

You have been doing many new fine quality articles, but I do wish you would create talk pages with the appropriate templates on them. See Talk:Wye Bridge Ward, Monmouth as an example. Yes, you can provide the quality and importance ratings of articles you do yourself. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:05, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll be happy to do that. What would you recommend as the best resource for determining the rating to assign to an article? Anne (talk) 19:28, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Particular projects may have specific guidance, but in general, articles with no or only one inline citation are class=stub, with three or more, class=start, and most articles are importance=low unless there is a good reason for a higher importance. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:11, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Anne (talk) 23:02, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi ACP2011, just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks from Wikipedia and the DYK team Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the review. I've responded at Template:Did you know nominations/Hotel Baxter PumpkinSky talk 21:31, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. Yea, that NRHP db threw me at first too. Nyttend has been a great help for me learning the NRHP stuff.PumpkinSky talk 22:48, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you from the DYK team at Wikipedia Graeme Bartlett (talk) 18:00, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:05, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you from the DYK team at English Wikipedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Anne, I'm hoping I didnt lose your nights work by renaming an article. If so then I do apologise. However you should always be able to save your edits if it is only an edit conflict. If you press cnth A, cntl c and then paste into a text editor then you can paste it all back once the situation has calmed. Actually I'm surprised to find that many modern browsers will remember the page if you just use "back" to get back to when you last saw you improved version. Anyway - sorry for your loss. whatever the cause Victuallers (talk) 11:39, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. It's OK. Edit conflicts happen. I panicked late last night when I thought that I had lost all my work. I had seen edit conflicts before, but not with a redirect. So, I ended up taking my work from before the edit conflict and pasting it into a brand new user draft, Sarah Coysh. Then, I deleted my old James James article. It's my fault. If I'm going to be working on an article for a substantial length of time, I should consistently utilize an "in use" banner. Anne (talk) 13:30, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:02, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Awaiting your response there. Thanks.Lihaas (talk) 07:16, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Done.[1]Lihaas (talk) 06:23, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you comment again on Template:Did you know nominations/Shimao Wonderland Intercontinental to move it along? --LauraHale (talk) 02:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I let the author of the article know that the gizmag source needs to be read again. The head of the Atkins team updated that source in late June to reflect some of the changes that were made since April. The Wikipedia article should reflect those changes. Anne (talk) 03:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

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Just want to alert you that I've reviewed your latest DYK nomination and raised a small point on the wording of the hook. Sam Blacketer (talk) 22:05, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Please see message on your talk page and DYK page. Anne (talk) 22:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions! Please sign your name at the project's contributors section. --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 22:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'll go ahead and sign in as a contributor. Anne (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Great work on the lighthouses! Can I ask where you're from by the way? --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 21:52, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'm a physician and mom in the Chicago, Illinois area. Anne (talk) 22:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Well thanks for joining us from practically the other side of the world! Great to have seen a pic of the Europa Point Lighthouse on the front page; I think it's the first time we litereally show Gibraltar on the front page, well done! :) --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 00:24, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. And, I thought it was a great picture of the lighthouse! That picture was also recommended by the publisher of The Lighthouse Directory. By the way, thank you for your edits on

Lighthouses in Gibraltar last night. I don't remember ever doing the categories or article review. I think I must have fallen asleep after moving it to article space. And thanks for removing those 4 Spanish lighthouses. The names were Spanish, but Publication 113 of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency indicated that they were in Gibraltar, United Kingdom. I thought it somewhat odd. Do you happen to know whether anyone who lives in the Gibraltar area is taking pictures as part of GibraltarpediA? It would be so great to have more lighthouse pictures! Is there a specific person that I should contact? Anne (talk) 00:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem.

Gibraltar Museum's collections (I've asked him to dig out a photo of the construction of the Europa Point Lighthouse :)). I'm also providing photos on diverse topics from my archives but finding it difficult to find time to go out for a specific shoot. By all means ask me if you feel we could do with a specific photo and if I can't provide it I'll try to ask someone who can. I'm working on getting some people together who can concentrate on uplaoding photos which other contributors request in a wishlist. I'll keep you posted... --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 13:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Just thinking about the Spanish lighthouses I deleted... You must have spent a while gathering the info, and we may be able to use it in lighthouses in La Línea de la Concepción? --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 21:37, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

That's not a bad idea. I'll put it on my list of articles to start soon. Anne (talk) 21:43, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I just thought it'd be a waste for it just to be deleted since you've already done the groundwork :). Would you mind having a look at

WP:COI... I think it needs attention by tomorrow before it gets dropped. It would be a shame as this should attract more contributors to the project were it to appear on the main page... Thanks, --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 23:21, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd be happy to take a look later tonight. I was going to contact you again for another reason: what we mentioned above. I've never clicked on the "undo" tab on an article revision. If I click on it for the lighthouse article to retrieve the lighthouse info for Linea, can I then click it again so that the article looks like it does now? I don't want to mess up the article. Anne (talk) 23:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Anne. You can just copy/paste the info from a previous revision. Just don't save it. Let me know if it works for you. --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 00:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anne, here's another ref you may want to use in Gibraltarpedia. Watch as from 18:55. --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 17:03, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I saw that an hour or two ago and was unable to access it. So, I went from your link and still had no success, receiving messages about inability to load, etc. I'll try a third time a little later in case it's a temporary problem. Or maybe it's because I'm in Chicago. I just finished my copy edits and have requested another review. Hopefully, we're closer along. Thank you. Anne (talk) 21:22, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm a bit late on this... Is there no way of reopening the nom??? --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 11:15, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Excellent work! Keep it up you Gibraltarpedian you!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Anne (talk) 16:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

You have had Autopatrolled status since June, but your articles still appear in the Category:All unreviewed new articles list. I have written about your situation (and others) at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Autopatrolled not inclusive. Please feel free to comment on that page, or on my talk page.

Oh, keep up the good work! Your new articles are sometimes amazing to me, like the Gib lighthouses.--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. And, no, I didn't realize that my articles were showing up on unreviewed lists. That seems like a glitch that, theoretically at least, should be easy to fix. Anne (talk) 00:58, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

The discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Autopatrolled not inclusive makes a good point, if you have autopatrolled status, you should have the skills to create new articles without using the new article wizard, or you can go ahead and remove the unreviewed tag yourself. Myself, I have never used the new article wizard. What do you think about it? --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I read the discussion. I like using the wizard; it's just convenient. It's not a big deal, though. I've been manually removing the unreviewed banner as soon as I review my article. Should I be removing the banner before I review the article? I usually review one of my articles within an hour of moving it to article space. The user space draft template indicated in the discussion switches to a new unreviewed article template after I move a draft to article space. If there is still a "hidden" user space draft template after the move to article space, I'll be happy to remove it. Where would I find it? Anne (talk) 13:33, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't be disheartened by the comments on the DYK nomination, you're really doing a great job! :) --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 21:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. It is a little depressing, though. In order to do that article, I did articles on five lighthouses in the preceding week. Anne (talk) 22:34, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I know, hence why I wanted to let you know that you efforts are appreciated! --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 23:58, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm in the process of doing severe copy edits on the Lighthouses article. Anne (talk) 00:17, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

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If you look at the Gibraltar Museum pictures list then you'll see I've loaded some 1850 pictures of a model the harbour (and the rest of the rock). Lots of new material from DiscoverGibraltar as they have given us a whole website. Do feel free to change or add to my hook. Thanks for your help! Victuallers (talk) 16:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the nomination! My computer went a little crazy yesterday, so I wasn't able to do the nomination after I finished the article. Early this morning, I spent time trying to retrieve some of my tabs. When I retrieved the GibraltarpediA tab, I noticed that there was an entire website that we were allowed to use, the DiscoverGibraltar that you mentioned. I haven't had a chance to do any other computer work since early this morning, but I'll check out the site tonight. Thanks for the heads up about the website and the photos. I'll take a look at those, too! Anne (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I went to the GibraltarpediA page and used the links there to review the available Gibraltar photos. Lots of great images! However, I wasn't able to find the Gibraltar Museum harbour model images from 1850 that you loaded. Should I be looking on another page? Anne (talk) 23:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anne, the 1865 Model of Gibraltar predates the construction of the Detached Mole. However, this picture shows the beginning of the South Mole at the bottom left and this picture shows the North Mole, in the bottom right, at the time no longer than Devil's Tongue Battery. --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 10:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Anne (talk) 11:59, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Orlady (talk) 08:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Orlady (talk) 08:04, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2012 (UTC) 08:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Victuallers (talk) 23:40, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

• You're a doll! I've been so busy getting my kids ready to go back to school (sports already started in early August), I haven't had time to do DYK. I've only been able to squeeze in writing the articles. Thank you! Anne (talk) 23:51, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

• I made minor changes to the hook. However, while I can change the hook, I can't "find" it in the nomination list. Do you have any idea of its location? Thanks. Anne (talk) 16:05, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:03, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

		Monmouthpedia Barnstar
		Thank you so much for all the work you have put into Monmouthpedia, we really appreciate it very much :) talk) 18:25, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Anne (talk) 19:05, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Lovely work on Gibraltar, thanks for your efforts!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:11, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Ditto! I've even learnt a thing or two from Anne. I can see the south and detached moles in the harbour from home and didn't even know the lights were actually considered lighthouses, and I've lived here all my life... Well done Anne! :) --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 22:06, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Anne (talk) 10:22, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello Anne. Let me first congratulate you on all the wonderful work you've been doing on Gibraltar. I have also appreciated your very sensible comments in discussions, last but not least in connection with the witch hunt on Flat Bastion Road. May I simply suggest that you implement your proposal to improve the article by deleting irrelevant information, perhaps also expanding on the basis of the authorative sources you seem to have identified. Maybe a tie up with the article you have written on Flat Bastion would also be in order. In so doing, you will probably take the wind out of the sails of those who would like to see the article deleted. Keep up the good work! --Ipigott (talk) 08:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

After a deletion review, a recently closed AFD has been relisted. I am contacting everyone who participated the first time who hasn't found their way there already. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flat Bastion Road (2nd nomination) Dream Focus 08:13, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Please be aware that some editors who did not participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/GibraltarPediA Options are suggesting that a moratorium on Gibraltar-related DYKs should be imposed, overturning the earlier agreement. This would impact some of your nominated DYK articles. If you have any views on this, please feel free to comment at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Time-sensitive DYK nomination. Prioryman (talk) 22:58, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Anne (talk) 23:05, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

		The Signpost Barnstar
		This month the Signpost said that the Gibraltar project was a " ludicrously productive GLAM project". Thank you for helping us with that achievement. We have got behind with the barnstars so this is one to say thank you for helping. Gibraltarpedia.org is now showing the list of about 100 plaques - do take a look and see the languages we will be featuring. Victuallers (talk) 21:30, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Excellent! Anne (talk) 21:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Concerns addressed at Template:Did you know nominations/Gibraltar Ranges‎. --LauraHale (talk) 21:03, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

nominate ) 16:03, 1 November 2012 (UTC) Turning off DPLbot Would you like me to make it so DPLbot stops leaving you messages? SilverserenC 06:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC) Is that the automated system that notifies me of link disambiguations? If so, I don't mind keeping it. I actually double check all of them (or at least try to). Some of them are intentional, when there isn't a good alternative link. But thank you for asking! Anne (talk) 13:42, 6 November 2012 (UTC) DYK nomination of Princess Caroline's Battery Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC) Hi Anne, don't get too upset about the two reviews above. In the case of Gibraltar 2, it's clear that the reviewer wasn't aware of the policy on link rot, and in the case of Princess Caroline's Battery, the (different) reviewer seems to have a misunderstanding about the scope of WP:COI. These things happen. I don't think it's specifically because it's Gibraltar-related, though I guess they might be getting closer scrutiny because of that. I've left some comments on both nominations and will do what I can to get this resolved. In the meantime don't lose heart. :-) Prioryman (talk) 01:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Thanks. This is all just getting to be a bit much. It's not fun anymore. I was about to leave a message at the discussion page for DYK this afternoon, when I saw yet another discussion (from late October and early November) about bans on Gibraltar. Thanks for your intervention. Anne (talk) 01:34, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Hi Anne, sorry I've got round to this a little late but I see Prioryman has already got back to you. Prioryman is right, the reviewer of Gibraltar 2 clearly wasn't aware of the policy on dead links. As for DiscoverGibraltar, this is clearly not a tourism website. It's Jim Crone's private website which has Gibratlar's extensive history as its main raison d'être - clearly some tourists will find this useful, but it wasn't created with tourism in mind which is why Jim doesn't include any info on hotels, restaurants, etc. I think people can be forgiven for thinking it's an official tourism website because of the name (see [2] and [3]) However, I don't think this site and/or the Gibraltar.gi site are a problem. VisitGibraltar.uk.com (ref 7 in the article) might be though but the info it references is already cited from other sources so can be removed with no effect to the article. Please don't let these things get you down, they can always be overcome. I know they can be very annoying but don't ever forget about the wonderful job you're doing. All these discussions on bans/restrictions don't get anywhere. I keep getting people stop me in the street telling me how wonderful they think this project is and how they've recently learned so much of their own history from reading a couple of articles - most of the ones mentioned are yours, so I'm always sure to mention Anne from Chicago! :) --Gibmetal 77talk 2 me 12:52, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Thank you. Recently, I've been trying to make the Gibraltar DYKs less offensive to the anti-Gibraltar crowd by 1) putting two articles in one nomination, and 2) sometimes eliminating the word Gibraltar from the hook. Perhaps my strategy hasn't been in effect long enough to make a difference. This has certainly colored my opinion of DYK. Thanks again. Anne (talk) 13:29, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Well, for what it's worth the latest ban proposal has been shot down in flames, so I think (I hope!) we have now seen the last of the troublemaking against this project. Prioryman (talk) 15:14, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Hopefully, it's not wishful thinking! Anne (talk) 16:19, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Oops, I saw a couple of your DYK nominations and added "Gibraltar" to them as I thought people would want to know where the particualar battery is located. Apologies! --Gibmetal 77talk 2 me 15:56, 10 November 2012 (UTC) You had good intentions! Anne (talk) 16:19, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Couple of comments on memorials Was checking up on a few things after returning to Wikipedia after a fairly long break, and I was wondering if you had seen the comments I left here? Also, I was intrigued to see the article on a single Cross of Sacrifice that you did at Gibraltar Cross of Sacrifice. This may not be the best time for me to say it (judging from some other comments I see on this page about some other articles and notability), but I'm not entirely convinced that having a separate article for a single Cross of Sacrifice (of which there were many) is the right approach. Large chunks of the text would apply to any Cross of Sacrifice and the article could be shortened quite considerably if the reader is left to get that information from the Cross of Sacrifice article (which needs work done on it). I see that the Gibraltar Memorial has a section in North Front Cemetery, as does the Gibraltar Cross of Sacrifice. I'm left wondering why it needs to be a separate article. There were a couple of other things I noticed as well while looking through the article - would you mind if I pointed those out? On a lighter note, I was pleased to see the Kipling quote. Have a read of The King's Pilgrimage for more on that. Carcharoth (talk) 23:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC) Thanks for your comments! To the first article: The Arras Flying Services Memorial was my 7th article. I was brand new to Wikipedia. I had started contributing a little more than a week previously. I was just learning about infoboxes. I don't remember the exact reason that I used the cemetery info box, but I do remember not being crazy about the military memorial or monument info boxes. (I'm still not too crazy about them.) If I remember correctly, the military memorial info box doesn't have a map. I finally settled on info box monument for my monument articles, but could not get the map coordinates to work for ages, so no map. It was just a couple of months ago that I learned that the monument info box template is defective and has to be adjusted to work correctly. So, that's the one that I've settled on. With regard to the Gibraltar Cross of Sacrifice, that's a little different case. There wasn't much information in the regular Cross of Sacrifice article. I had initially included a section for the Gibraltar cross in North Front Cemetery. When I wrote an article for the Gibraltar Cross of Sacrifice for DYK, I was asked to expand it. Anne (talk) 00:41, 13 November 2012 (UTC) One of the things about being new to Wikipedia is how much there is to learn. People can be here years and still be learning things. And things change as well. Some people press on with new articles as they learn (there are always new articles to be written). Others go back and apply stuff they learnt to articles they wrote earlier. I'll try and have a look at the templates you mentioned. Not everything needs a map, and not every article needs to be expanded. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is write less, and reorganise content instead of expanding it. There was a point, when I was adding some content to the article on The Cenotaph, Whitehall, when I considered pulling together scraps of history, various mentions in newspapers over the years, but I decided not to because that isn't really the right approach to writing an encyclopedia article. Such an article should involve the authors stepping back a bit more and taking a broader perspective, summarising sources that give an overview, rather than aggregating news sources to give a potted history. It's difficult, because the latter approach can be very tempting at times, I've done it myself. But I don't think the articles that result really stand the test of time. They also have far less potential to be developed further. This was not something I thought when I first started editing Wikipedia, but something I came to realise over time. Anyway, that's enough of that (it really belongs in an essay, not on a user talk page). If I come back to this, I'll let you know and point you to the article talk pages. If you ever need help with a memorial or World War I article, let me know, and remind me to take that memorial photo I promised sometime as well. Carcharoth (talk) 00:25, 14 November 2012 (UTC) Thank you. I do enjoy writing about World War I. That's what I started with this year: WWI aces, monuments, and their sculptors. What I plan on doing at some point is going back and looking at my earlier articles, with an eye to improving them after having gained some experience. Anne (talk) 03:13, 14 November 2012 (UTC) DYK for Gibraltar 2 nominate ) 16:02, 24 November 2012 (UTC) DYK for Princess Caroline's Battery nominate ) 16:02, 28 November 2012 (UTC) DYK nominations of William Green (general) Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cdtew (talk) 15:59, 5 December 2012 (UTC) First Gibraltar Challenge GLAM Barnstar The GLAM Logo Barnstar The Gibraltar Challenge created over 600 new articles in more than three dozen languages in about four months. Scores of people helped on-line and in talk) 19:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC) Hello, ACP2011. Please check your email; you've got mail! It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{ ygm }} template. DYK for O'Hara's Tower DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. Orlady (talk) 16:02, 7 January 2013 (UTC) DYK for Soldier Artificer Company DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. 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