User talk:Biblbroks
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Will you help me?
Hello, I'm a new wikipedian from Texas, and I've just translated the article on the
Portuguese/English Translation
Thank you very much for responding! Yes, the source of the English translation was the Portuguese article, but I also added a fact which I am sure of (which is that the bishop who was re-accepted into the Roman Catholic Church had a wife and children). Also, I ommited some information about the previous attempts to create a national Brazilian church, because I thought they were a little non sequitur, and probably belong in another article. I would be extremely thankful if you could point out where I was innacurate, and either change it yourself, or tell me to. Thank you! Kennethmyers 22:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank You!
Hi! Thank you so much for looking at the article. I used the word "National" in the title because that's how I had heard the name. It looks like someone has fixed that too, now. If I can ever help you with anything, please let me know! Kennethmyers 05:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Gyrodynes
Hi, I'm OrangUtanUK who has done some stuff on the Gyrodynes page. I'm sorry, ut I was doing a chuky big change today and I think it's conflicted with some things you put in. I hope i've identified the main changes and merged them into my update, but perhaps it would be a good idea if you had a look and checked that you like my contribution.
best wishes; OrangUtanUK 17:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject Disambiguation Talk Request
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D with a stroke edit.
Nah, mate. I wasn't referring to your edit in that summary - your edit was good. I was talking about Ptcamn's revert, which undid a capitalization, and alphabetical orders, when they could have just re-added Bosnian instead of reverting. Sorry about the confusion. - King Ivan 07:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Bellows
Heya, Beeblebrox! I just hammered on the Bellows page for a while - is this what you had in mind for cleanup? Cbdorsett 07:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for reply. I have a little request: can you help out with the translation from Slovenian to English on Slovenian parliamentary election, 2004? The only thing remaining is "Nepovezanih poslancev" and "Nepovezani poslanec", which I'm guessing are the plural and singular of something like "unaligned candidates" or "independent deputies". Thanks. Cbdorsett 05:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)]
- Thanks for helping out there. I cleaned up a little bit, and I changed "Deputy group" to "delegation," which is the correct English term for a group of members of an elected body, who are all in the same party. In the US Congress, there is a Democratic delegation, a Republican delegation, and so on. I don't know about British usage - it could be quite different. Cbdorsett 04:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Translation of Interlingua
Hi Biblbroks,
Thanks for welcoming me! I’ve known several people from the Balkan region at various times. It’s an interesting region, and I think the Balkan languages are fun as well. I wonder if you could do me a favor. The Wiktionary has an article on Interlingua with several translations, but one Balkan language, Croatian, isn’t yet included. I gather that you speak this language natively. Could you add the Croatian word for Interlingua? That would be great! The article is located here. By the way, the English Wikipedia article on Interlingua is here.
Thank you, 66.68.174.245 (not my real name :)
Citation about monument for Dragan Stojkovic
Hi Biblbroks, I have cited about a sentence on
Is him somehow famous, I wonder?
See you around.--Orcano 20:29, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
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No need, tipo
I've been on a form of Wiki before. I do not need any tips on how to do this site. hrwiki is where I started off, as Balmung and Sanjuro; I do not need any help starting off on this site.
--FireMan
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The standards call for the lead to be between one and four paragraphs long. It is. --EMS | Talk 14:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you...
... for your welcome! --Nice poa 07:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Removal of Ptolemy from timeline of scientific discoveries
I've made some comments on your removal of Ptolemy on the timeline's talk page. Rjm at sleepers 06:47, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Nrm
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Milena Lukich for Afd
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Meša Selimović
For me is surprise to tell this but user:Nikola Smolenski has been right. See this compromise version which has been destroyed by nationalistic SPA accounts:"Mehmedalija "Meša" Selimović (Cyrillic: Мехмедалија "Меша" Селимовић) (26 April 1910 - 11 July 1982) was a Yugoslavian writer, one of the greatest 20th century novelists of Bosnian and Serbian literature."--Rjecina (talk) 15:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
June 2008
This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
If you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did to User:Luna Santin, you will be blocked from editing. Gwernol 01:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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Interwiki block logs
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If someone understands what is happening with this user... On FR, he seems to claim for "help" (?)
Hégésippe | ±Θ± 03:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you
I'm not quite gone, actually. But thank you. :) Best, DurovaCharge! 07:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Copy-and-paste page moves
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Disruptive behaviour
Biblbroks, I have placed a note on the Administrators' Noticeboard because of your
- I too believe that you are acting in good faith, but controversial edits such as moving or redirecting a page require a majority consensus. Your proposal was rejected by an overwhelming majority. There was a recent discussion about renaming the article and it led to renaming the article "International recognition of Kosovo". Here is the discussion, which had a consensus to rename the article. Also once/ if you have a consensus, you have to perform the rename via talk) 14:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)]
- You could argue that, but a lot of people will revert your edits without a consensus and say talk) 16:28, 21 March 2009 (UTC)]
- You could argue that, but a lot of people will revert your edits without a consensus and say
- Why are you not claiming that this article has a POV title: talk) 17:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)]
- Why are you not claiming that this article has a POV title:
Contrary to your belief, I wasn't being ironic. Bazonka (talk) 17:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Computer network proposal
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The "Recognition" debate
Biblbroks, I have brought this discussion to your talk page because it is taking up waaay too much space on the Talk:International recognition of Kosovo page. And I apologise for spelling your name incorrectly before.
Let me explain the meaning of "flogging a dead horse". You completely misunderstood it. The "horse" refers to your argument which you are "flogging" (whipping) by trying to continue it. In other words, you are working very hard to make something work, but it is a waste of time because it is "dead" - it will never, ever work.
Now for answering some of your questions:
- "Who can be authoritative enough to connect the context and the meaning in every given case?" I don't understand what you mean. Why do you need authority for this? There is no authority amongst Wikipedia editors - things are done by consensus. And the consensus (with the exception of you) is that the title adequately covers the context of the article.
- "If it is about recognition of independence, why couldn't it be also about recognition of dependence?" I suppose that a country that doesn't recognise Kosovo as an independent state, by default "recognises" it as a province of Serbia. But this isn't really how it works diplomatically. Diplomatically, countries recognise other countries, not bits of countries. For example, all countries "recognise" that California is part of the USA, but no countries have an embassy to California because they don't diplomatically recognise California - their embassy (and official recognition) is with the USA. So the "recognition" in the title of this article obviously refers to recognition as an independent state, not as part of a larger state.
- "There are many ways of recognitions. With how many should this article deal with?" My statement "...entities recognise in a variety of ways..." was a response to your argument that recognition is a process. I was pointing out that there is not just one process for recognition, but many. I do not understand why the "process" element of recongition is at all relevant.
- It could be considered POV that the article's title assumes that we mean recognition of Kosovo as independent, not recognition as a Serbian province. I think there may a valid case for renaming the article to "International recognition of the Republic of Kosovo" to remove this ambiguity. Yes, I said that there may be some ambiguity in the title - but not in the word "recognition"! The potential ambiguity is in the meaning of "Kosovo" - do we here refer to the state or to the province? But as I have said in point 2 above, this change is not entirely necessary because it should be clear that we are referring to Kosovo as an independent state. Hence my comment about "pedantic semantics". Semantics are, as you say, important. But extreme pedantry is unnecessary - it could turn a useful article into something unreadable.
Biblbroks, please can you repond to this post here, on your talk page. That way the whole discussion will be easier to read. Bazonka (talk) 10:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- I will indulge you and answer on this page. A bit, though, because my opinion is that the debate should continue on the talk page for the matters of continuity, consistency and especially transparency. Therefore, I will transfer a part from it there, too. And apology accepted, but with a note of you being careful in the future - too much has had me disturbed (as personal attacks) in your words. Not to mention the hostility of some other contributors. The term hostility was used here instead of the terms personal attacks - as they do in England with euphemisms, don't they. Sincerely I'm not not taking you very neutral at the moment. Especially not objective. Maybe not even sincere.
- As for the explanation of the phrase: there's no need for you to do that. I got your point. The very first time. Unfortunately you haven't got mine. I hope you get it now: don't take the role of some kind of authority whether consensus exists or could exist. Neither do describe my actions. I don't yours. And if I may be a bit sarcastic with you not to mind that too much and explain my figure of speech (if you haven't got it yet): a person is much more humanely AND/OR reasonably "metaphored" with a horse, than an issue could be personified with anything else, not even a horse.
- The other issues I will answer on the talk page. All the best, --Biblbroks's talk 15:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Disambiguation pages with links to disambiguation pages.
Please do not remove links from these pages that have not been fully repaired, as you did with Norwood. The page still has a direct link to the disambiguation page, Norwood Park, which means that it still shows up as a page needing repair to disambiguators. Intentional disambig links must be piped through a "Foo (disambiguation)" redirect, to remove the link from the reports of those needing repairs. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:31, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, that is perfect. That way, when a disambiguator generates a list of pages needing repair, Northport will not show up on the list. Cheers again! bd2412 T 17:24, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Your edit to the "vandalised" template
Hi, just thought I'd mention that I saw you recent edit to this template, and I would suggest you take a look at Help:Magic_words#Conditional_expressions for the correct syntax of the #ifeq parser function: it was a good effort, but you didn't use the syntax correctly. I need to rush offline now, but I'll give you some help with the syntax later if you want it. Regards, GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 19:22, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, I rushed that message a bit. The correct syntax for the #ifeq parser function is {{#ifeq:x|y|result1|result2}}. If x is equal to y, the result is result1; otherwise, it's result2. You tried to add an extra pair of conditions I believe, but since the result is either x equals y or x is not equal to y, that doesn't work. Take a look at the syntax for "#switch" at Help:Magic_words#Conditional_expressions, this seems to be what you were trying to do. Hope that helps; happy editing. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 19:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Your edit to the "Srbosjek"
Well, as you've seen, my youtube reference is genuine contribution from German TV. Agricultural tool called "Sheaf knife" in English or "Gerber Messer" in German. While this tool might have been used for killing people, it definitively ISN'T "specially designed" for killing humans as first sentence says. Big effort is being done by certain Serbian extremist circles to increase number of victims (as if, for example, 70-100.000 really killed in Jasenovac concentration camp isn't hedious enough), mostly in order to justify crimes done by Serbian paramilitaries in 1990's.
Here is one more link:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.hr-online.de/website/fernsehen/sendungen/index.jsp%3Frubrik%3D22664%26key%3Dstandard_document_33193668%26lugal%3D1%26ibp%3D0&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhiyZmWTmWOdaN-grFgN2KzFkfNmew —Preceding unsigned comment added by MahnitiTapir (talk • contribs) 22:10, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Vandalised template
Glad I could be of help. Thanks for your note. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 12:55, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Leaving
Thanks for your concern. I am dedicated to making positive contributions to the project, and I like to think I am a patient person, but unfortunately the actions of other editors have made me lose my patience. I am glad I could have contributed to this project before this happened, and I am happy to have interacted with more pleasant editors, yourself included. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 13:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
You are now a Reviewer
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Thank you!
Thanks for your work in cleaning up Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/Disambiguation pages that link to disambiguation pages/43 (which is now finished, but for a few hard cases which likely will require the writing of articles to conform to those links). Would you like to collaborate on another section of this list? Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/Disambiguation pages that link to disambiguation pages/10 looks like fun: Bozo to Bunge. bd2412 T 02:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Well done. Let's pick another - discussion at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links/Disambiguation pages that link to disambiguation pages#Next?. Cheers! bd2412 T 13:24, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hello! We're really pounding through the list now, having conquered nearly a quarter of the original total in just a few weeks. We're up to Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/Disambiguation pages that link to disambiguation pages/12 - you are welcome to pick off some more! bd2412 T 14:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Meša Selimović
You are right. There is no point to put "Serbo-Croatian Cyrillic" if that's just a redirect. But, I don't really know about your idea to redirect "Serbian Cyrillic alphabet" to "Vuk's Cyrillic alphabet". At least, You can try with a move request. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
I've got this message on my talk page: Vanjagenije (talk) 09:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry for butting in (accidentally had Vanjagenije's talkpage on my watchlist): it is not true that "General guideline, as you may know, is that links shouldn't point to redirects but to their respective articles." See No such user (talk) 07:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)]
Bosnia redirect
Please join the discussion at
]KVIrc + Slackware
Hi! I have noticed that you have removed the Slackware reference from the KVIrc article. As slackbuilds.org is an authoritative reference I'd like to keep it in the article. I have re-added it specifying that this is a third party source (so not official as you correctly pointed out). I hope that you don't mind :) Pragma2 (talk) 01:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
/* "Central South Slavic diasystem/area" and/versus/or "Western South Slavic Section/group/dialects */
As I understand it, CSS was meant to replace SC. It's not central in a cladistic or even geographical sense, but just a means of avoiding the offending phrase "SC". I think there were theoretical claims to justify this, but they haven't been accepted. And yes, there has been some discussion on this, esp. on the SC talk page.
(I'm unable to answer on that page. I can edit the article, but not the talk page.) — kwami (talk) 19:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Country data Republic of Kosovo
Regardless of the discussion at
{{flag|Republic of Kosovo}}
already produces the output you desire, namely Republic of Kosovo. There is no need to turn the redirect into a full template, since it already works as expected. Thanks — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 00:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)- The reason why I was trying to change it was discussed at the aforementioned talk page, so I think it can't be simply regarded without this discussion. I understand that the clarification (of the reasons for my actions) could be not quite fit to the task, and I will try give a better explanation - there, at that talk page. To put it shortly: I saw the current situation with titles and topics of articles as different than before, therefore I opined that the original implementation of the redirects required a change to reflect these new topics/titles. Cheers, --Biblbroks (talk) 14:38, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Quora registration
As far as I can tell from the main site (and my own experience) Quora is no longer invitation only. You can sign up via Facebook, Twitter, or via email. Let me know why you think this isn't the case. ToastIsTasty (talk) 19:02, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Selimovic
I have edited the article. However, it might contain some grammatical errors. Also, I dont know how to put reference/source in, so, can you do it instead? I used info from (except for last sentence):
Mala eciklopedija Prosveta: opšta enciklopedija, Beograd, Prosveta, 1986,
It's not much, but ебига, немам тренутно приступ литератури. Нису неке контраверзне информације, па да их треба референцирати, ал ето...
I changed it to "Serbian Cyrilic", because it's more precise (there are letters that don't exist in all Cyrilic alphabets).
P.S. У Просветиној енц. пише и да је 42-43. био у усташком логору, али нисам хтео то да додајем пошто се не поклапа са информацијом која је тренутно у чланку. --Supercooleskimo (talk) 18:45, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
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Sanction requested at WP:AE
Please see my sanction request about you at
]- I have. --biblbroks (talk) 20:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- The Kosovo article is *already* under a one revert per week restriction, which you have broken. My hope was that you would apologize for violating the restriction. In addition, it would help if you would promise to stop pushing a nationalist cause on this article, to stop tweaking the interwiki links, and to wait for consensus before making any changes. EdJohnston (talk) 03:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- I know it is. And i knew that quite some time before i was violating the rule. And i think you understand i did. As for your hope or expectation of me to apologize... well, i think that it/they are legitimate and understandable. And i think others would agree that they/it are/is. But i'm not sure it is completely justifiable. Anyway, if you think i should apologize, i will. No matter to whom. Or where. I will. Help me in deciding where and i will apologize. As for the promise, ok, you think it would help. But again, where would it be appropriate to put such a promise? If you have an idea share it, please. If it were still needed, i will make and put a promise like that. Best regards, --biblbroks (talk) 06:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- I expressed my apology at WP:VPM in my comment there. I hope this satisfies some expectation. Anyway, best regards from biblbroks (talk) 07:38, 27 April 2011 (UTC)]
- The Kosovo article is *already* under a one revert per week restriction, which you have broken. My hope was that you would apologize for violating the restriction. In addition, it would help if you would promise to stop pushing a nationalist cause on this article, to stop tweaking the interwiki links, and to wait for consensus before making any changes. EdJohnston (talk) 03:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello Biblbroks. Please see the closure of a complaint at
The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose, at their own discretion, sanctions on any editor working on pages broadly related to the Balkans if the editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. The committee's full decision can be read at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia#Final decision. EdJohnston (talk) 03:35, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
List of Serbs
Hi, adding a name of someone/anyone that has not got a wikipedia article without a supporting citation is worse that useless. If they are Serbian and notable then a citation explaining who they are and that they are Serbian is not much to ask - as for not moving them to the talkpage - I have tried without any success at all to get the IP24 to discuss and they keep adding such additions unendingly - so now the list is quite tidy I am just deleting the new ones now, regards. I have though perhaps the account does not speak English, would you try and communicate with them? Regards.
Replied
Please see my reply at User talk:EdJohnston#Arbitration. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 14:27, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Admin help requested
Please advise my report against you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents because of your constant vanadalism of Branko Lustig Wiki page. Thank you.--Eversman (talk) 09:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your message
It's encouraging to get messages from the experienced wikipedia editors. Indeed I've now reviewed most of the policies for the English Wikipedia (much more mature than for the Spanish one). Best regards and let me know if I can help in a specific article, my specialty is in math, science and philosophy in South America mainly... --
A beer for you!
I really liked your comments re: Quora discussion. NCSS (talk) 23:27, 31 August 2011 (UTC) |
LGBT Serbia map situation
First off, Wikipedia articles must be accurate. Whether you support Kosovar independence or support Serbia's claim as Kosovo being it's territory, the current situation is that Kosovo is physically and politically distinct. Second, the file with Kosovo as part of Serbia is up for deletion, so it won't be here much longer anyways. Fry1989 eh? 20:11, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
- It's not just a pic. First, it's an inaccurate map. Second, it's up for deletion. Third, it's only purpose is to inaccuratly pretend that Kosovo is still part of Serbia, which the reality is that it is not. If you care about Wikipedian accuracy, you will understand why it can not be used. Fry1989 eh? 20:19, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
You have performed four reverts in the space of 24 hours on
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
below this notice, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:59, 4 September 2011 (UTC)- Let me also add that your behavior on User talk:Fry1989 after he was blocked was unacceptable - you took advantage of the fact that he was blocked before you to taunt him on his own talk page. I don't care who was right or wrong in this dispute, but if the two of you start back up when your blocks expire, I will not hesitate to start re-upping the blocks. Hash it out on the article's talk page, or a noticeboard, or on your own talk pages if you must, but blatant edit warring like you were carrying out is simply not ok, period. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:08, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Edit war
I suggest you stop moving the edit war you are involved in to new language versions all the time. Discuss things on one language version (why not here on enwp?) and then move on to other language versions. GameOn (talk) 08:32, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Message
(Assuming you are the same Biblbroks that left me a message here. {{{1}}} ) You were right, it was a big welcome in many many words! Take care and see you soon! Atlantia (talk) 07:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Kosovo and control
I noticed your edits on the Kosovo article. "Control" is this very peculiar word, but really control distills down to your ability to kill and kidnap with impunity ("arrest" and "imprison" in legal vernacular). That power primarily rests with the Kosovo Police at the moment as far as I can tell. It appears to be an EU institution under the auspicies of EULEX. I will try and de-Kosovarize that article, as it seems quite clear to me who runs the country and the police legally: the UN and the EU, not the Republic of Kosovo. That includes the police. A BBC article from 2008 accredits the creation of the police to the EU, not the Republic of Kosovo.
This is important because really the rest comes down to de facto recognition of the populace of civil institutions, and how those civil institutions are controlled and by whom. From what I could tell last I checked, Northern Kosovo recognized Serbian civil institutions on a widespread basis (they even outright hold elections there in violation of UN/EU military/police laws/regulations/edicts), which is why they are referred to as controlling the area.
It is so convoluted, and the Republic of Kosovo out and out claiming authority over stuff, and the EU quite obviously de facto letting them in a partisan manner, makes things very hard to discern. I guess they let the Republic of Kosovo people hold elections, but not Serbia, which is still recognized by the occupying power (the UN) as the sovereign. What's your take on the situation? Int21h (talk) 20:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Article: "Republic of Kosovo". Subject: areas of control references disagreement
- Reference No6: "Earlier Thursday, the Kosovo parliament backed Prime Minister Hashim Thaci's measures aimed at asserting the government's authority over the north and passed a resolution ordering the government to exercise its authority over the whole country, in line with the constitution." Therefore stating that Pristina is administrating Kosovo apart from the North. "Kosovo Serbs have had political and financial support from Belgrade and have often resorted to violence whenever the pressure on them to submit to authority has increased." Stating that Belgrade is trying to administrate Northern Kosovo and block Pristina from administrating Northern Kosovo.
- Reference No7: "11 pct of the territory is not under Pristina's control" which is in reference to the North per the rest of the article, which talks about Pristina attempting to take control of the north.
- Reference No8: "Serbian Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović says that the current government had politically “lost a little bit of control“ in northern Kosovo." therefore stating that Belgrade has control of the north but has 'lost a little bit of control'.
Anyway I have proved to you what the references have stated regarding who controls where/ who's authority is respected where. Anyway you stated that it could be rewritten. If you believe it should be rewritten I will help you rewrite a new neutral way of explaining the authority situation. I am always open to compromise as long as the outcome is status neutral. However until then the status quo should remain. Regards IJA (talk) 23:56, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Have you read the first article on today's B92? Minister: We will not leave northern Kosovo "Serbia’s Minister for Kosovo Goran Bogdanović has said that Serbia will not abolish its institutions in northern Kosovo... He told daily Večernje novosti that a request to withdraw from the institutions in northern Kosovo was unacceptable for the Serbian government. Requests for Serbia to withdraw from the institutions in the north of the province, that are not parallel but the only ones, are unacceptable for the government". He has stated that the institutions governing the North are apart of the Republic of Serbia. What more proof do you want? IJA (talk) 09:23, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Also I've said to you, how do you think it should reworded? And what is POV about it? It just states who administrates where. Also we use status quo until a consensus can be reached to change something, this is a fundamental part of wikipedia policy. Regards IJA (talk) 09:37, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- So basically you're trying to deny that the RoK has control in Kosovo? Even though UNMIK only exists on paper (staffing levels were cut by 70% in Aug 2008 and there has been further cutting to staff levels since as well as the transfer of power to the Kosovo Assembly) and EULEX is a policing/ judicial mission which is set to expire in June 2012. I get it, you're opposed to the RoK but they do administrate the majority of Kosovo (even if you don't agree that they should) and they're much more of a government than a lot of third world countries. This is as bad as the time you tried to claim that countries don't recognise Kosovo, they just acknowledge Kosovo instead. I would love for you to produce a source stating that RoK does not control and administrate Kosovo (not incl the North) IJA (talk) 10:32, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Int21h is stating something very different to you. You're stating that RoS and RoK don't not control Kosovo but UNMIK and EULEX do, not true. That is false. We can't write false information on an encyclopaedia. I have produced sources, but just simply claiming they're not true means nothing as I have quoted where it states who controls what. Simply saying they're wrong bears no weight, how is it wrong? Please provide me with a source stating that RoK doesn't administrate or control Kosovo. IJA (talk) 15:04, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
POV-tag Bosnian language
Dear Biblbroks,
thank you for noticing the faulty POV-tag posted by me to the Bosnian language page. The title is of course perfectly correct. The issue, as throughly presented in the discussion, is the attempted classification of Bosnian as a subunit of "Serbo-Croatian"; a defunct and today invalid language term with highly controversial undertones. I would like to ask you which POV-tag would be appropriate for this matter? MarcRey (talk) 11:52, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
- In that case I urge you to pay the talk page a visit. Attempts are currently made, and succeeded with over the last few months, in completely reviving "Serbo-Croatian" as a classification standard on Wikipedia. This is nothing but original research with extremely controversial undertones. I am however confident that such plans will not be successful in the long run. If it has taken you months to poison these articles, so am I prepared to spend months on sanitary actions. A simple search on goggle proves your misguidance, but this will most likely not be sufficient as I fear outside editors (non-Yugoslavian) with administrative privileges will have to be included into the discussion. I am currently collecting an extensive body of contemporary literature work (most recently from Duke university) which will have the administrators of Wikipedia realize that ex-Yugoslavian language articles will require protection in the future following the chauvinistic maneuvers concerning Serbo-Croatian. In clarification, given your uncomprehending answer I presume you to be part of the neo-Serbo-Croatian movement on Wikipedia. Maybe you could help me answer the following rumor: Serb editors on Wikipedia are on a pay check from the government (or individual municipalities) in Serbia to protect "the interests of the Serbian nation"? Would explain a great deal. MarcRey (talk) 18:59, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
- How the heck do you guys find the time to sit in front of Wikipedia 24/7 in that case? Personally, I have a work, which is certainly well-paid, but prevents me from doing editing on Wikipedia during the hours I have to put bread on my table. Grateful for answer. MarcRey (talk) 19:09, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- In that case I urge you to pay the talk page a visit. Attempts are currently made, and succeeded with over the last few months, in completely reviving "Serbo-Croatian" as a classification standard on Wikipedia. This is nothing but original research with extremely controversial undertones. I am however confident that such plans will not be successful in the long run. If it has taken you months to poison these articles, so am I prepared to spend months on sanitary actions. A simple search on goggle proves your misguidance, but this will most likely not be sufficient as I fear outside editors (non-Yugoslavian) with administrative privileges will have to be included into the discussion. I am currently collecting an extensive body of contemporary literature work (most recently from Duke university) which will have the administrators of Wikipedia realize that ex-Yugoslavian language articles will require protection in the future following the chauvinistic maneuvers concerning Serbo-Croatian. In clarification, given your uncomprehending answer I presume you to be part of the neo-Serbo-Croatian movement on Wikipedia. Maybe you could help me answer the following rumor: Serb editors on Wikipedia are on a pay check from the government (or individual municipalities) in Serbia to protect "the interests of the Serbian nation"? Would explain a great deal. MarcRey (talk) 18:59, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
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