User talk:Bine Mai/Archive1

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Question... if Mario is blocked, how is the world could he have created this article?

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I request this unblock because i know that what i did was wrong and my attitude was incorrect expecially regarding other wikipedians but in recent weeks i observed that other users keep adding PROD tags to articles that i have created or contributed in an attempt of massive deletion (expecially my football players articles). I would also like to say something regarding my photo uploads, user Durova kept discussing with user MER-C on a certain talk page about me and my photos, and from the discussion you could clearly summarize that i beeing from

1987 21:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply

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Decline reason:

Substantial abuse of

WP:SOCK. As a general rule, someone who has engaged in as widespread abuse as you have is not unblocked. Exceptions may occasionally happen, however. — Yamla (talk) 21:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply

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Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Per Liempt, last and only chance. Request handled by: Son of the Defender 06:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply ]

I'd like to shout out in weak support of the unblock, while the user has behaved innappropriately in the past, he shows what appears to be genuine will to contribute positively. We should show good faith and give him one, and only one, more chance.--Liempt (talk) 08:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would not support an unblock of this user because of his uncooperative attitude, demonstrated by the fact that he repeatedly deleted requests and advice on his talk page (to make sure his articles met notability standards, categorise & index things properly, stop making up information and to use more than one source) and carried on in the same manner. Not to mention the obvious sockpuppet abuse.

If he is unblocked I would argue that it should be on the condition that he gives a firm guarantee that he will go back through all the football player articles he has created and make sure that they both assert and display notability, add all the information he couldn't be bothered to type out in the first place and remove all false information. So that they stop producing reactions like this I know, the english Wikipedia is satisfied by having such (non-)articles, but I'm not. Espeacially if you include several mistakes to a single sentence and an infobox: Kronholm was neither born in Germany nor is he German only. But that's something that takes serious investigation to find out. Obviously not your favourite kind of work. 78.55.115.192 when people come across them. (he deleted this from his talkpage).

There is still a vast backlog of players to be verified and brought up to standard

peasant 09:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply

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I don't know why you consider footballers from Azerbaijan, Ablania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Serbia, Ukraine etc. "minor" are they not football players aswell? So what if they come from non-traditional football countries. You should know that

USSR Super Cups

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Serbian football is also notable,

1987 17:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply

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I am clearly not saying all footballers from those countries are minor, but if you create an article for every single player at a particular team without doing any basic research about appearance data and career history, (as was your methodology) you are bound to create articles on lots of minor players. The stubs you have made very rarely made any distinction between the established international players and teenagers that have never even played at professional level. If the player has made an international appearance then article should say so and if the player has never even crossed the white line, then he is non notable and shouldn't even have an article. A player like

peasant 23:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply

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Absolutely, feel free to restore your userpage. I'm happy that you can put this issue behind us and that you can return to productive editing. Cheers! --Liempt (talk) 08:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mario. While you have a couple options at your disposal for dealing with repeated abuse, I'd like to suggest a few things first. While a personal attack is a very serious matter, I think it's important to note that

peasant

has the best interest of the project at heart, and is simply trying to stay within the guidelines for notability and factual accuracy. While it could be argued that he does so with too much fervor, I believe there are alternatives to reporting him at this stage. One of his major issues was factual accuracy; What I would do in this circumstance is, instead of treating it as an attack against me, treat it as constructive criticism. If I were sure that my articles were factual, in spite of his claim to the contrary, the logical thing to do is reference them! I think in this manner you two could possibly play off each other to build up a strong stream of well referenced articles.

Another major complaint of his is notability. I personally see people who make complaints about the notability of articles as people dedicated to maintaining the quality of the encyclopaedia. When an article of yours goes up for deletion, I'd simply wait for the community decision. If your articles are truly notable, odds are that they shall remain in Wikipedia, as several of them already have. As for these percieved negative comments towards you, I'd suggest honestly to rise above it and ignore them. Try to avoid becoming personally affected and hostile yourself, and keep in mind that many people, including yourself, do questionable things with the quality of the project in mind.

If, after all this, you still feel it necessary to take further action, you have several options at your disposal, most of them within the

assume good faith

Good luck! I hope you two can resolve your dispute peacefully and work together to build strong football articles, something you both obviously want to do!--Liempt (talk) 20:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I've noticed that you have started many articles about footballers and wanted to see if I could help make them more complete. As others have said, there are footballers who have not yet played a match which probably don't need an article, so I would wait to create them until they have played. For footballers that have played, it is important to make sure the information is as correct as possible. One example is the career history in the infobox - if this only shows the most recent club for a player that has been at 5 or 6 clubs, it is misleading. I recommend using websites like www.eufo.de (european players), www.national-football-teams.com (national team players), and www.bdfa.com.ar (players from the americas) to help find the career history information. There are many other sources (some are listed at

You're back! What happened? How are you, futhermore? Basketball110 _{pick away...} 22:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a backlog of 52 users at talk) 19:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply ]

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I appreciate the friendly gesture. I have also noticed that you are at least trying to give accurate player details on the biographies you are creating. There are still improvements you could make, like including club categories and ensuring that all wikilinks lead to the right place. It would also be good if you could help to update some of the player statistics, lots of people make football articles, very few people ever update them. Perhaps you know of some good sources for statistics on Romanian football?