User talk:Greyrevell

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Hello, Greyrevell. We

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If you're going to write, as you have for so long, an apparent autobiography at Wikipedia, then inline citations are necessary to support claims--especially those that compare the subject to well-known personalities--and details of personal life, including marriage, divorce, and children. Thank you, 76.248.149.47 (talk) 00:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC

just got your message - i don't think anything i've posted on my page, with exception of my divorce info has run afoul of any journalistic standards. I'll be happy to remove that line immediately, is there anything else on there that doesn't have a verifiable citation.? I believe the references section covers everything.

Actually, everything needs to be cited. A lot of it reads like 'notability by association'. Comparisons to famous musicians need to be directly referenced--who made the comparisons, and are they reliable sources? There's no evidence that Paleface is notable, and the link is to a disambiguation page. Most importantly, it's not your page--what amazes me is that it's an autobiography that's gone pretty much unassessed for 6 1/2 years.

76.248.149.47 (talk) 00:57, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

what exactly is a "disambiguation page."? If someone that understands the genre is available to assess the credibility of this article I'll be happy to see it happen. thanks.

This is the disambiguation page [1]; in other words, it doesn't lead to an article on the group. Another unsourced claim in the article is that a song 'became a minor hit among fans of the National Lampoon film'. These aren't issues that require a music critic to suss out.... 76.248.149.47 (talk) 01:19, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

fair enough on the lampoon line..change has been made.. so how do we get the paleface link to go to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleface_%28musician%29 which is already in place, as opposed to the disambiguation..? I'm not interested in producing puff pieces..I've done easily verifiable work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.145.121 (talk) 01:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. It needs better sources, and needs someone other than you to find them;

WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY is really relevant. I'd suggest asking for help at the BLP noticeboard [2], which is what I might do. Also, please sign in, so you're not editing your autobiography using multiple accounts...just muddies things further. Thanks, 76.248.149.47 (talk) 01:33, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply

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ok understood. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.145.121 (talk) 01:35, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I've opened a thread at the

JFHJr, Thanks, that's great! much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.145.121 (talk) 03:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Grey Revell is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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