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Woodroar (talk) 19:00, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
I would suggest reading the links above.
Citations in the lead
To answer your question, the body of
- Theres something in the lead I dont understand and I want to read the source "Statements claiming to represent Gamergate have been inconsistent and contradictory, making it difficult for commentators to identify goals and motives" I've read the rest of the piece, well skimmed thru it but cannot find anything in the main body of the article that enlarges on that, or indeed supports it. Hmcst1 (talk) 21:22, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- It's a decent summary of the Social and cultural implications. I hope this helps. Cheers! Woodroar (talk) 22:41, 7 May 2016 (UTC)]
- It's a decent summary of the
- Theres something in the lead I dont understand and I want to read the source "Statements claiming to represent Gamergate have been inconsistent and contradictory, making it difficult for commentators to identify goals and motives" I've read the rest of the piece, well skimmed thru it but cannot find anything in the main body of the article that enlarges on that, or indeed supports it. Hmcst1 (talk) 21:22, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
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Where am I supposed to raise concerns now? I successfully raised a concern a couple of days ago on the meta page and it was debated at some length on the talk page I dont have access to. There seems to be some inconsistency here.The 500/30 restriction works automatically to restrict editing to the main talk page, if the meta page is covered by the same restriction why is the revertion being done by you rather than the software preventing me editing it in the first place? Hmcst1 (talk) 23:44, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- To be completely frank, you don't. The 500/30 restriction is in place to prevent disruption from inexperienced users. Once you've made 500 constructive edits to the project, then your account will automatically get flagged as Gamergate controversyarticle. Any discussion you start at the Meta Talk about the Gamergate article (1) will likely be removed as off-topic, and (2) may even be viewed as disruption and result in an actual technical restriction.
- And here's why, again being completely frank. Your contributions so far demonstrate a lack of understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines. For example, let's look at your recent issue with the Herzog sentence. Sources that we consider reliable must have "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" (see WP:BLP) and there are 53 archived Talk pages of often bitter discussion. This isn't an article for someone new. I really do hope that, by the time you've made 500 productive edits, you'll have a decent understanding of our policies and guidelines. I mean, I've made more than 10,000 edits in 10 years and I'm still learning some of the intricacies. Again, I hope this helps. Cheers! Woodroar (talk) 01:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)]
Since this is my Talk Page I take it I'm still allowed to note my concerns about the
- I'm sorry, I didn't intend to suggest that you had violated BLP, just that many editors had. We're a bit of an anomaly on the internet, in that some speech is expressly forbidden and that we require editors to stay largely on task. Some people can't handle that.
- To answer your questions quickly:
- As far as I know, there are no restrictions on discussing Gamergate articles here on your Talk page. But at the same time, I wouldn't expect much of a response, if any.
- The 500/30 restriction on the Meta page has been removed. It's still a Meta discussion page, though.
- YESPOV does say to "[a]void stating opinions as facts", but it also says to "[a]void stating facts as opinions". If a source says "this happened", for example, we should never summarize it as "it is their opinion that this happened". Most reliable sources have editorial/opinion sections where one can expect to find opinion-based articles. It is expected that the remainder is fact-based journalism. Separating the two is part of what makes reliable sources reliable.
- As for Talk page guidelines, get in the habit of threadingdiscussions as soon as possible. MediaWiki wasn't designed as forum software, so proper threading is required to keep discussions readable. I've seen new editors refuse to adapt and just let others clean up after them–indenting discussions, fixing section headers, signing for them, etc.–but eventually other editors will simply ignore them. (I'm not saying you're doing all these things. I'm just saying that you should make an effort to "do as the Romans".) It's also good practice to read the Talk page (including archived pages) and keep your headings neutral.
- Cheers! Woodroar (talk) 00:41, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thankyou. Hmcst1 (talk) 08:06, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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'Most commentators dismissed Gamergate's purported concerns' - purported is editorializing
The sides in the controversy do not agree what the controversy is about. One says it's about harrassment the other says it's about journalistic ethics. Those opposing views need to have equal weight in the introduction. Wikipedia aims to describe disputes, but not engage in them
Herzog's exact words are "but not far beneath the surface are virulent strains of anti-Semitism, racism, and neo Nazism."
Here's another example of exaggeration . WP article says "Journalists ... were accused of conspiracy" supporting ref says "Journalists ... were labeled gaming journalism conspirators" [2] Labeled is not the same as accused. Hmcst1 (talk) 08:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Hmcst1 (talk) 22:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Gamergate Controversy/Meta
Howdy. Turns out I was wrong about 500/30 still applying to that meta page! It's just that comments may be removed if they are off-topic. As yours was, I have removed it. PeterTheFourth (talk) 21:50, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Ways to improve Sir Aubrey Thomas Brocklebank
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BBC pay
Thank you for adding the salary ranges of several BBC staff from the recent disclosures. However, you have not specified that the figures are for the financial year 2016-17. Unless we give the year then the figures may become misleading in a few years, particularly if inflation rises. I have added the date to the Andrew Neil article, can you do the others? Thanks, Verbcatcher (talk) 17:25, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
- Sure, yes I was wondering about whether to do that. Hmcst1 (talk) 18:11, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Ah, I didn't spot this. Sorry, we can't copy advertising copy - and there's no indication that this source is reliable as there's no credited author whose credibility we can assess. I've deleted the text that's a paraphrase of the website and replaced it with a more limited text based on the listing. Blythwood (talk) 19:45, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
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