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I've given the old grouch a major overhaul. Glad if you'd look in and amend or comment ad lib. No rush whatever. Tim riley (talk) 13:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'll take a look tonight. Cheers, Tim. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 00:52, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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New Year
Wishing you a good one, I followed your example of mentioning a few people who played a role in my life here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Movie Title
Ji Jack
I am trying to find a title of a drama film (possibly in black and white) about a romance relationship that was stopped by his family being Italian because it was found out that the woman had an unsavoury past. It is not Traviata or Camille it is st in moderfn times. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Regards Sincerely Dona Lay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.182.120 (talk) 21:38, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, Dona. This is about the question you asked on the Wikipedia Entertainment Reference Desk yesterday. Please confine the discussion to that place, and do not approach individual editors simply to restate your question. Best thing is to go back to the Ref Desk, and respond to me there, saying that Camille is not the answer you're after. Many people read the ref desks and will see this, and this will get their brains ticking over. You've got a much better chance of getting the answer that way, than by approaching editors individually. Best. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 21:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Giulietta
Thank you!
- Yes, a good idea to clear away the historical cobwebs of distortion and melodrama and let the damn music speak for itself. I've also added a sub-section about Die Beterin. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 09:29, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, seen, thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Jack-- I've posted a couple of responses to your note, but moved yours and mine to the bottom section, Moonlighting. Milkunderwood (talk) 17:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've added more in response. Thanks. Milkunderwood (talk) 19:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
- Giulietta has an article, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, Gerda, When you alert me to some article, can you please provide a link to it. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 23:24, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sonata quasi una fantasia, as I thought you know) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:27, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, Gerda, When you alert me to some article, can you please provide a link to it. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 23:24, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Krishnamurti
Hi Jack. Thank you for your comment on my talk page. I simply searched Wikiquote for "no path" hoping for something rather more Zen-like, but the Krishnamurti quote seemed to fit. Glad you liked it. All the best.--Shantavira|feed me 13:38, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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op 27/2
Learning: the much discussed sonata is known among German musicians as op 27/2, is that "Op. 27, No. 2" in Wikipedian? If there is a redirect
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"Va Pensiero" by The Met
Just sublime. Almost turns this chamber music only bloke into an Opera fan. xxx --Shirt58 (talk) 14:50, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- (butting in...) I've watched that particular clip countless times. It's one of my favourite things on Youtube. I'm not sure about this but I think that's the only time the Met ever encored a chorus; they have a general policy of no encores. Antandrus (talk) 15:07, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- What a great start to my day. Thanks, boys. If I happen to come across any Hebrew slaves today, I'll be sure and tell 'em what clip to watch. :) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 18:25, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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Mathematics and Music
If you haven't already seen '''http://tinyurl.com/77k4mea''', I thought you might be interested. I was, and have no competence in either field. I wonder how hard the piece would be to learn by rote. (I couldn't make a blue link because the "tinyurl" site is blacklisted, probably for copyright reasons.) Regards, Bielle (talk) 01:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Weird. When I first got your message, I was getting ready for work and only had a moment to check what the website was. It looked interesting enough to come back to when I had more time, like now (evening). But now, I can't access that website at all. I keep on being told there's no such site. I'm using a different computer with different security protocols, but that shouldn't make any diff.
- Ah well, maybe I'll just go and watch Hewitt thrash Djokovic, and try again later. Thanks anyway, Bielle. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 09:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Apparently I was using the Down Under definition of "thrash" - [1]. :) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 00:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
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Constantin Silvestri
I stumbled accidentally on a query made in 2008 regarding Constantin Silvestri's date of birth. Specifically, although his official birthdate was recorded as May 13, 1913 a note found in a publication indicated that that the date as May 31, 1913, presumably Gregorian.
This cannot be true. The difference between the cited dates is 18 days. Both my parents were born in that period (1906 and 1909 respectively) and their birth dates were October 2/October 15; and February 5/February 18. The difference for the dates at the time of the change was 13 days; the few more years until 1913 could not have added 5 days.
68.82.100.88 (talk) 00:20, 29 January 2012 (UTC)Bimbi
- Hi there. I fear you've misread my query. The usual date shown is 13 May 1913, but without specifying whether it's a Julian or Gregorian date. But my source says his true date of birth was not 13 May but 31 May 1913 (Julian), which equates to 13 June 1913 (Gregorian). -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 10:05, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Hello mate! I hope you like cats. I am quite sure that people would've continued whining for months without explaining anything if you hadn't given your explanation. Thanks for your help.
Von Restorff (talk) 06:48, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- Well, it just seemed kind of obvious to me. I probably wouldn't have said anything, since your English skills seemed pretty damn good to me. Until I read that box on your user page.
- I've heard other-language speakers use "of course" in places where it seems natural to them, but would be considered rude in English. Where you suspect something is the case, and you ask for confirmation, then "of course" as part of the reply might be appropriate. For example: you believe your work colleague has a Hungarian background but you're not 100% certain of that. You ask them "Are you Hungarian?". They're likely to say "Of course", meaning "I've never made any secret of it".
- But where it's not reasonable for you to be expected to know one way or another about something, then "of course" is very much out of place. For example: you want to know who the 13th President of Italy was, and you ask someone. If their response is "Vittorio Vercotti, of course", you're likely to get indignant, because it sounds like "Any fool knows that".
- So apply that idea to the question we're talking about, "Is the mustard seed the smallest seed in the world?". They presumably have no way of knowing whether it's the smallest or not, which is why they've come here to find out. Saying "Of course not" is like saying "Any fool knows it's not. How could you possibly not know that?", and if I had got that answer, I'd have been mightily offended. I hope that explains it.
- However, that was just the tip of the iceberg. All the other shit that happened both on the ref desk and more particularly on the talk page, most of which had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the question per se, doesn't bear repeating. If you want my advice for handling questions that you suspect are being asked for reasons other than simply wanting to know the answer, it's this: Play a straight bat (to use a cricketing analogy). Treat the question absolutely literally, in this case solely as a botanical question. Do not engage them in stuff they haven't raised (the Bible, religion, whatever else you suspect, but can never know, is going on behind the scenes). Because, IF they're asking a seemingly innocuous question as a way of getting a reaction, and we deny them the satisfaction, they're likely to get bored quickly and go away.
- But if you actually like drama, conflict and endless argy-bargy (and believe me, lots of people really get off on that stuff), then feel free to ignore me. But also feel free to pursue your passion elsewhere. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 23:53, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- I've noticed that there are plenty of people here who are kind of addicted to drama, and repeatedly asking them to drop their sticks seemed useless unfortunately. In my native language using the direct translation of "of course" in this context is completely innocent and totally not offensive. You know, the funny part is that I was thinking about spermatozoa, which can euphemistically be described as (human) seed. They are pretty small; their head is 5 µm x 3 µm and their tail is 41 µm long... Von Restorff (talk) 00:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Jack. I've undone this edit that you made because apparently
- Wow, the things you read. When I come to power, all Mcs and Macs will be sorted as Mac, that's a promise. Until then, we'll just have to go with the consensus, I suppose. Thanks for the alert. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 04:02, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
The New Yorker's February 6th issue has an interesting article, "The Flight of the Concord", by Jeremy Denk on playing Ives's music. The imagery is telling even to a non-player like me. The article requires payment, of course, but if the abstract appeals to you, and your local library can't assist, I can send you a photocopy. Bielle (talk) 17:16, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- That sounds fascinating, Bielle. I will check it out at the library. Ives is one composer whose music I've never played a note of, so it'll be interesting reading about the experience from that untainted perspective. Thanks for the alert. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 18:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Meck vs. von Meck
Jack, thanks for the well-intended attention re. Madame von Meck in Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky but when her last name is used alone, the "von" is dropped as it is a title, not part of the name. The best example of this rule of usage is Herbert von Karajan. Whenever his last name is used by itself, you generally read or hear "Karajan," not "von Karajan" or "Von Karajan." Thanks for understanding. Jonyungk (talk) 13:22, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. What you say applies to Germans and Austrians. But Nadia was a Russian who married a man with a German name. In her own article, it's "von Meck", never just "Meck". -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 14:09, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
The great and good JNM
I'm so pleased you've put up an article on this important musical scholar. He's been on my To-Do/Guilt List for ages, and I'm glad you've got in first or the world might have had to wait for heaven knows how long. Another feather in the JackofOz cap. Tim riley (talk) 21:08, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
- Why, how kind of you, Tim. I must say I know next to nothing about him personally, and I've only put in whatever I could glean from google, which isn't all that much. For the longest time I even assumed, not unreasonably, that he was British born and bred. Not so, as it turns out.
- One thing I'm still assuming, though, is that he uses his full name Jerrold Northrop Moore so as not to be confused with Gerald Moore. Can you comment on this? Cheers. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 22:55, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
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Grand Duo Updating
Hi. I'm currently floundering my way through an update of the Schubert Grand Duo article. As usual I'm running short of reliable sources. The main problem is that section on the Orchestrations. I think that needs to be re-written and made separate from the analysis. I've removed some badly written text from the article and added citations where I can provide them.Graham1973 (talk) 13:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Robert Hausmann
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"At Me"In the recent reference desk question where I made a mistake about "at me", why did you call me "kid"? I'm a bit insulted by that. Interchangeable|talk to me 21:11, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
John Millett (poet)I just wanted to thank for your improvement on this aforementioned article. Many of you Wikipedians are so proficient. What makes your contributions for commendable because of dedicated volunteerism. Pjt48 (talk) 20:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Tchaikovsky and SexualityThere's a discussion on this subject on Talk:Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky following a request for me to remove material from the Sexuality section of the article. As whether to leave this material out of the article or reinstate it is something that should be decided upon by more than two people, the more voices that are heard on this, pro or con, the better. Please consider joining in. Your input would be appreciated tremendously. Thanks! Jonyungk (talk) 20:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC) Disambiguation link notificationHi. When you recently edited John Millett (poet), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page ABC Radio (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 10:29, 22 February 2012 (UTC) What ho! If you have a moment, pray run an eye over this new article to which I have given birth after a protracted labour. I shall add blue links when I feel up to a second grapple with this huge list, but meanwhile, any general thoughts, or Jackish tweaks will be most welcome. All this, I may say, is a mere clearing of the decks before giving the main Georg Solti article a comprehensive going over. Tim riley (talk) 21:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC) Hi. Well spotted! I didn't recall Chipp having been Leader of the House but it's there in his parl biog all right. Incidentally, he used to say he'd been a minister ten times, but this record accords him only seven, plus the two House leadership appointments. Customary rhetoric I guess, eh? Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 00:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
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Article restructuring at the BeatlesThere is a straw poll taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc (talk) 23:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC) DYK nomination of Siegfried Rapp
Musical knightsWhy not have BencherliteTalk 20:23, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
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I'm in the middle of overhauling the article. Any contributions will be gratefully received. I've hived the discography off to its own article, and I am under no illusions how much more work it needs, so for now I'd avoid that one if I were you. I shall get it up to the standard of the Georg Solti discography after the main Monteux article is put to bed. Meanwhile, any Jack thoughts, amendments or additions on the main article would be welcome. Tim riley (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Death in musicI'm curious about your addition of Category:Death in music to so many operas, seemingly on the basis the central character dies. But apart from Dead Man Walking, none of them have as their main subject or theme "death" itself. Mostly it is the result of lust for power, jealousy, devotion to duty, unrequited love, betrayal etc., which are the central themes. If you include every opera where a central character dies and/or kills someone, it's going to be huge category and kind of meaningless. Voceditenore (talk) 06:37, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Melbourne meetupHey all, just a reminder that there's a meetup tomorrow at 11am in North Melbourne. There are more details at the talk ) 04:36, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
2012 State ElectionIt was just announced on the News, live.Nford24 (Talk) 21:01, 24 March 2012 (AEST)
Deleted postThere is a discussion which concerns you at Wikipedia talk:Reference desk#Deleted Birther soapboxing. SpinningSpark 19:35, 24 March 2012 (UTC) FauréGood to see you in Fauréan territory just now. World War Three has broken out at Talk:Piano music of Gabriel Fauré. If you feel disposed to look in make sure to wear your tin helmet. Tim riley (talk) 19:21, 31 March 2012 (UTC) FYIHi, Jack. As a courtesy, I'm notifying you that I collapsed part of the discussion here including your comment. Enough said, I think. Rivertorch (talk) 20:06, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
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