I've blocked you for 24 hours as per what seems to be an open-and-shut case as reported above. I won't bother you with the usual shpiel, since you've been around longer than I have, and probably have a better grip on policy, anyway. I apologize for this, I know you're a damn fine editor, but looking at the diffs, I'm not quite sure what else to do under the circumstances. --InShaneee 19:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please blcok this idiot for as long as possible.
You blocked Mel Etitis? That's weird. Why didn't you discuss the issue wtih him before blocking him, if you didn't do so? Stiles 22:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
He didn't, and he also ignored an e-mail that I sent him. The RfC report was made without the courtesy of informing me, either. If I'd not been unable to edit anyway, being away for a day, I'd have pushed it a bit. Perhaps I should take it further anyway. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Lara Dutta article
Hello, Mel Eititis,
I just noticed that you cut the role information from the Lara Dutta article. Generally, we leave this information in the article - most Bollywood actors have the role information in their filmography, so I put it back. If you think it should be cut, please put the corresponding suggestion on the talk page of the
WikiProject Indian cinema. Thanks and best regards,--Plumcouch 01:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
County flowers
No, I do not know the facts for every single county. What I was requesting was that someone with detailed knowledge of each area perhaps produce a reference showing how, or if, Plantlife's suggestions had been adopted in their "county" or city. Failing such citations of real-life adoption then all references to "county flowers" (sic) are just spamming for the charity Plantlife.
You are not a neutral observer in this case. In such circumstances I would advise you to leave this case in the very capable hands of your fellow Administrators. Not that I'm sure you give two figs for anything I may proffer in the form of advice. --Mais oui! 10:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I request that you immediately withdraw this statement:
"While the AfD discussion was continuing (and it was obvious from the outset that the overwhelming consensus was to keep the article) the nominator deleted all references to the county flowers from the relevant county and city articles, citing the AfD."
That is just not true. It was User:Bwithh who did that: [1]. This allegation is unbelievable. Where on earth is a single shred of evidence to back up your allegations. You have not even provided the names of the articles concerned, so that other Admins can go and check for themselves. --Mais oui! 10:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
County flowers: premature archiving of my comment
I am very unhappy that you have decided to "archive" a comment I left on your Talk page only 2 days ago. It is of direct relevance to the complaint you have just made against me at AN:
You cannot restore all these references to "county flowers" without some source. A charity or any other private organisation can say anything they like about various former administrative divisions: it does not make it true. Perhaps, at a pinch, it is worth a wee footnote saying that as part of a marketing campaign Plantlife, in 2002! (long after the abolition of nearly every county concerned) invented a number of "county flowers" (sic). But c'mon, they are not really county flowers unless a proper county (of which few remain, and none in Scotland) actually adopts and uses it. In how many cases can that be said? Yorkshire, Lancashire, County Durham? That seems to be about it. --Mais oui! 14:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
COPY ENDS
Please do not "archive" this message while the other Admins are considering the evidence I have put in front of them.--Mais oui! 12:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Comment - just to point out (although you probably already know) that the
county flower article has been nominated for deletion, so the occurance or removal of 'county flower' information in article probably ough to pend the outcome of this vote. Hence I support your restoration of it when you did, although I'm not entirely convinced that county flowers are sufficiently universal or notable to be included in all articles prominently, as I have mentioned before. Stringops 17:07, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
All you have to do is supply the diff, which is unaffected by archiving. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης)
Why did you "archive" such a relevant post? It shows that I tried to engage you in discussion and that you refused the opportunity. In fact, you refused 2 opportunities, at Talk:Bristol too.--Mais oui! 13:20, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest that you stop spluttering and protesting, and think about your actions and the points I've made. I notice, by chance, that you've been pestering individual admins about this, which doesn't seem to have done you much good either.
I see that you've now added the response to your comment from the archive. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you have not exactly covered yourself in glory with your unfounded allegations. I would strongly advise you to calmly reflect upon your actions too, and the valid points that I have made. I still await an apology for the plain falsehood upon which you based your AN complaint. By the way, my "pestering" (sic) of other admins was the only thing which prevented you from pulling off a total travesty of justice. I was not born yesterday you know. --Mais oui! 14:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps I am a little paranoid lately, but would you not be paranoid too in my situation? I have just succeeded in exposing a sockpuppeteer whose single issue campaign revolves around distorting Wikipedia articles about "counties",... and then two short days later I am hauled up before AN, on groundless (indeed evidence has been utterly non-existent) charges related to a very minor skirmish about "counties". Mmmm... guilty as charged: yes I am a bit paranoid today, but being the thoroughly decent chap that I am, I am going to Assume Good Faith, assume that it is all just a horrible coincidence, and pray to God that I don't cross your path for a good long time to come. I seem to remember that our first encounters (last summer? Independent schools?) were equally as unpleasant. Let us try not to repeat the excercise until at least summer 2007. --Mais oui! 14:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Re: Mark Benson
Thanks for your message, Mel. I think it's still a stub. I realise people have different thresholds for stub-ness, but it has essentially nothing on his playing career, for a start. Stephen Turner (Talk) 15:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
County flowers
Following the AfD debate, you may wish to join in a discussion taking place at Talk:Plantlife. SP-KP 18:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Format for first appearence of a title to a single
When I format the first appearence of a title to a single (see The Look), should the quotation-marks be bold also? That is, should I write "The Look" or "The Look"? I consulted the Manual of style, but was unable to find an answer. --Bensin 03:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Alt takes
Hello - re: Giant Steps, is there any particular reason why 'alternative' is preferable to 'alternate'? I make an appeal to consistency, as the article makes note of an album titled Alternate Takes. - mako 08:34, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; I should've looked at the dictionary in the first place. - mako 09:34, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Samantha Smith
Do a Google Groups search for "Samantha Smith Alley".
Hi. I put back the link to Amazon. It's not intended as a commercial link; it's referencing the source. We're supposed to do that. -Litefantastic 12:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Edit Summaries
Edit summaries
When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labelled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:
Edit summary text box
The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.
When you leave the edit summary blank, some of your edits could be mistaken for vandalism and may be reverted, so please always briefly summarize your edits, especially when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you.
--Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the suggestion. I take it in good faith, however aan you be specific please when you leave such a message on my talk page. Which pages exactly and when? Don't leave me messages like this again unless you're willing not to generalise. Deff6 13:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mel, I know already about the edit summary text box and I use it when appropriate. I am not going to write a summary of a spelling correction or redactional correction. I think what you ask is ludicrous. Further I agree with the comment above from Deff6 about you lazy "cut and paste" generalising form of giving comment on someones talkpage. Otto ter Haar 07:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mel, you wrote on my talkpage:
You don't use it when appropriate, as "when appropriate" is every time (that's Wikipedia policy, in fact). For the many editors who do use it correctly, the idea that its use is "ludicrous" is itself ludicrous.
Demanding that I be specific when I'm asking you always to use the summary field is also ludicrous.
The message is our standard template (not "cut and paste", designed for just this purpose. You demand that I leave you everyone who fails to use edit summaries personalised messages, written just for them, when you can't be bothered to type one or two words in the summary box?
Responding to a polite reminder in this aggressive way is uncalled for, and worrying. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:31, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I have read the
edit summary) is not a policy but a guideline. Many contributors agree about it, but I don't. I appears that we have different opinions about when it is appropriate to comment and what should called ludicrous. I don't appreciate it that you are pushing a guideline you like to see as a policy by copying and pasting it on my talkpage. Otto ter Haar 10:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
County flowers again
Thanks for your reply. In fact, it looks as though we agree - both you & I oppose merging. However, in a spirit of fairness, I did send my message to all AfD debate participants, whether they agreed with me or not. Cheers SP-KP 16:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!
I know I got a bit lazy. I apologize, and will use the explanation box in the future. Thanks for patiently letting me know and not yelling. And thanks for all your time, help, and effort on Wikipedia. :) All the best, --Wilanthule 16:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that one or two people are making things difficult for you, and I distance myself from those. But the way this has been done is frustating to those of us who are trying to write featured county articles too. I have replied in full at Talk:Hampshire. Joe D(t) 18:24, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! No!
I just added two full stops on the '80s one-hit wonders list without leaving a edit summary. You better go revert it. RomeoVoid 22:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just warned this user for personal attacks based on this comment.
It's not a personal attack. My buddy Mel is just waiting for me to edit that page so he can revert it. I was just giving him a head's up. RomeoVoid 22:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
New Zealand blues article
Hi Mel,
Thank you for your welcome to Wikipedia note.
I am the author if this article and keen to learn how to be a better Wikipedia author.
I take your point about adding a comment each time I make an edit.
Can you please list just a couple of the key areas I need to address first when I copy-edit this New Zealand blues article.
Alright, but I insist there must be a link (to somewhere) as a form of verification). Do you have an alternative? -Litefantastic 23:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]