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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

from Amandajm (talk) 06:52, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Molesey Lock

Hi. I have added a map to Molesey Lock. Could you have a look at the text describing the reach. Platts Eyot seems to be dealt with out of sequence, and I wonder if it might make more sense to move it so that the islands are described in the order they occur. (Feel free to disagree!) Bob1960evens (talk) 22:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like the changes made to the Thames

Keep it up! Jamsta (talk) 23:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arduus, etc.

Thanks for the correction! That's better grammatically, and, now that you mention it, I seem to remember being told that too! The previous translation (Reach for the sun) bothered me as it used the wrong part of speech, and I didn't think Dragons would do that! Jpaulm (talk) 15:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Claygate

Nice pictures. I repositioned them, hope you don't mind. A lot of Surrey villages and towns need pictures, keep up the good work. SuzanneKn (talk) 18:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mommit, Who are you to decide what is a part of the history of Claygtae and what is not? The Claygate Tandoori is referenced in the official Claygate Book as the Dipali, and is the oldest restaurant in Claygate, if you remove the reference once more, I will make it my personal goal to make sure you cannot edit this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.2.144.78 (talk) 10:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Making snide comments about an establishment that has done more for the Claygate community than some muppet of a 'cow' is just plain petty, why not do something more with your life than simply watching public web pages and warning people about 'vandalism' - FYI this is a public IP and I have not been 'warned' about anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.2.144.78 (talk) 10:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia in not a commercial directory. A neutral point of view means not giving undue preference to a vested interest. An encyclopedia has to be written in an appropriate tone.
Indulging in personal abuse, making threats, vandalising a user page and replacing an article's balanced text about all restaurants by advertising bloat for one - such behaviour does not reflect well on the restaurant in which this IP user appears to have an interest.
The contribution of all businesses in Claygate through the Chamber of Commerce is acknowledged in the article. The age of the restaurant was actually mentioned in the text ("oldest" being open to question). Naming of any restaurant or pub was avoided out of fairness to all, although this restaurant is actually visible in one of the pictures mentioned. As for "snide comments", I fear it is one of the restaurant's supporters who implies that "a bad experience at the place" accounts for these impartial efforts to improve the accuracy, tone and quality of the Claygate article. Motmit (talk) 08:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kingston

Hi KBT Your constant efforts to maintain the quality of Wiki keep hitting my Watchlist, so many thanks. However I noticed you knocked out a link to the Thompson Local in Kingston. I find this an almost indispensible publication in hardcopy and was quite glad to see it is online. Perhaps there is a policy on links to local directories but is it really spam? Just a thought. Motmit (talk) 19:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a toughie ... strictly it's
WP:EL, but if you want to discuss it on the talk page and obtain a consensus for keeping it - then I'm sure you'll be protected from any 'drive-by' correctionism on my part. I know some of these things can actually be useful, but there's essentially a policy of not advertising paid for services on wiki, and this is one. I'll leave it to you - and try to restrain my propensity for hitting that rollback button ... Oh, and thank you for the cack-handed compliment - you make me sound like one of those 'bot things! Kbthompson (talk) 00:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Sorry you thought it cack-handed - sometimes I feel like saying 'I like what you are doing'. I'm not too concerned about the link, but I did note it was from a newbie who for once didnt seem to have an agenda. DBTR. Regards Motmit (talk) 09:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, thank you. I didn't give the editor a warning because that was the only time they put in the EL. I just noticed they didn't have a welcome, so I've added that. Cheers. Kbthompson (talk) 10:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seymour de Lotbiniere

Thanks for writing an excellent article, which I've only just spotted. When I wrote the article on Howard Marshall, I noticed that Lobby didn't have one. I would have liked to have written a piece on him myself, but none of the reference books that I had to hand contained enough information. JH (talk page) 09:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Was his father this guy: Henri-Gustave Joly de Lotbinière? If so, then we can link him. It seems unlikely that there could be two people with such a name, but that article makes no reference to his ever having held a military rank nor of his having a noted son. He also seems never to have moved from Canada to England, but I suppose might still have sent his son to Eton which could have led to Lobby settling in England. JH (talk page) 11:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, grandfather seems more likely, but of course can't be added without evidence. I've looked up Lobby in CMJ's Ball by Ball: The Story of Cricket Broadcasting. According to that, he went to Shrewsbury rather than Eton, and then qualified as a solicitor before joinging the BBC. What was your source for his having gone to Eton? Also CMJ gives the first "e" in his surname an accent. JH (talk page) 16:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've just found something in a web search that answers both questions: yes, it was Eton and yes, it was his grandafather who has a Wiki entry: [1] JH (talk page) 16:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would go with "Lob...., Seymour de". Incidentally, do you know whether or not the surname should have an accent? Some sources seem to spell it with and some without. JH (talk page) 10:12, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize if I caused some trouble. Well, I do know this is an English Wiki and is hard to figure out. I thought SdL was born in Quebec because on the Wiki article of Henri-Gustave Joly de Lotbinière pointed out that SdL is his son. Must be an error. I'll have to research more on Quebec's early prime ministers soon to improve their articles. Now I read that he was born in London. My assumption was then premature that he puts an accent mark on his surname. His (grand?)father's name has one on his when he adopted later in his life (it was his mother's madien name). I have to say, it was a natural impluse to put the è (accent grave) but I thought about it now...maybe it was premature. Feel free to remove the è if you must, because I also thought you couldn't make one with your keyboard. Don't hesisate to point out the spelling convention on accent marks in the Wiki. I'm having trouble finding it. Pieuvre (talk) 06:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at his two biographies and it mentioned H-G de Lotbinière had 11 children, which 7 survived to adulthood. He had three sons mentioned, but no names. But, reading above talks, I see that H-G de L was SdL's grandfather. Honestly, it depends how he writes his name personally (with accent or not). I'll say go without according to standard's English spelling rules that generally ignores accent marks. I think that'd be a fair assumption unless proven otherwise. (talk) 06:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It was a quick mistake on my part! Thank you for showing me how to properly put the accent marks (it slipped from my mind not to put those on references where they don't have any). Now I read the H-G J de L article and noticed it mentioned "grandson". I sumbled across SdL's article while reading H-G J d L, and thought "it's missing accent marks on his name", and hence I went to put them on. Forgive me! Thank you for clearing this up. I'm still rather new here (just several months of being a member), so I may make some mistakes. We're all once newbies! Cheers and have a nice day! Now Canada (at least me) must sleep now! Pieuvre (talk) 07:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have put the SdL's name back where it was, except I kept the father's and grandfather's alone as you considered it correct. Pieuvre (talk) 07:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Silly Bot - I refer you to LOTRrules (talk) Regards Motmit (talk) 18:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately LOTR has since removed the spoof new message joke which was very funny at the time, so don't bother any more. Motmit (talk) 23:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That reservoir

The IPs are still sniping at the hapless Suzanne. I have removed the relevant section from user's talk page. I guess the original article ought to be flagged for deletion when things quieten down. Pterre (talk) 12:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Mapledurham Lock

Hi. Back in November you edited Mapledurham Lock, and amongst other things added the statement:

The weir is also the highest on the Thames that has a salmon ladder.

which is a bit ambiguous. The word highest in this context could mean either furthest from the sea or with the largest fall. Could you clarify, and perhaps add a reference. Thanks. -- Chris j wood (talk) 15:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

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About Image Upload

Hi Motmit. I have got it from the uk Enviroment agency. I told them i wanted to upload images and they sent me some! Do you think they weren't aware of everybody seeing their pictures? Let it be my problem. I ask them and on that rare occasion that they don't approve Them, I will remove them MYSELF.

Have a nice day! User:Drbdavid(talk) 23:34 9 March 2008 (GMT+1)

OK. I ask them about the copyright of the images I need a few days because they are quite busy so the turnaround-time is quite long. Hope i get an answer by friday. Have a nice monday! Drbdavid (talk) 00:03, 8 March 2008 (GMT+1)
Hi Motmit!

I'm new to wikipedia. What's EA? User:Drbdavid(talk) 0:28,10 March 2008 (GMT+1)

Bertram

Hello Motmit As you kindly agreed I wish to ask for your help I would like a Wikipedia page for Oliver Bertram who was an english racing car driver in the 1930's.He held the Brooklands outer circuit lab record for 2 months before John Cobb took it from him.He was the son of Julius Bertram.Is it possible for me to do or do I require some permission. Best Regards Fairfax18 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fairfax18 (talk • contribs) 11:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Motmit Just to say thank you for your help regarding the Oliver Bertram page. I was wondering how to link references externally. I can now appreciate how this is achieved. Best Regards Fairfax18 (talk) 11:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Fairfax18[reply]

Hello Motmit
I have edited J.Bertram as I have new information from the British Phone Book publication 1930 but the page does not have a references section.Is this deliberate or should one be created to qualify latest info.Best Regards Fairfax18 (talk) 18:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Fairfax18[reply]
Hellow Motmit
Re J.Bertram,I concur with you regarding the Reform Club,Pall Mall. I have looked up J.B.in the London Telephone Directory. In 1901 he has an address of Julius Bertram,Solicitor,14,Suffolk Street SW.In 1909 he has two addresses.Julius Bertram,4749 Gerrard,MP,Solicitor 14,Suffolk Street SW and Julius Bertram,3680 Kensington,MP,I Elm Place SW.

Best Regards Fairfax18 (talk) 15:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Fairfax18[reply]

Ascham St V

Hello and VMT for telling me about the new entry. Guess it will create interest and produce input from former pupils. Do you know the address in Selwyn Road? I'll correct the typo in St Anne's Road. I'm certain that the house in St Anne's Road was Eversley Court ... this was later Eastbourne Grammar School. However, I can't give a citation off the top of my head and don't have the reference books to hand. You'll find it in the book about E'bne College by V. Allom. ATB. Mikeo1938 (talk) 22:57, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just had a thought. The headmaster of The Grange was also a Mr Willis. That was also in St Anne's Road. This school became Eastbourne Technical School during WW2. It was later Eastbourne College of Arts and Tech (ECAT), which is now Sussex Downs. So it would be as well to check carefully before writing anything about Eversley Court. There could be confusion. Mikeo1938 (talk) 23:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice pics

Lovely pictures of the River Ember. I made them a little bigger. Hope this is OK SuzanneKn (talk) 17:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Elsie Bowerman

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Thank you
User:Morhange
for zapping this Del-boy's ridiculous splat

Elsie Bowerman

No problem :) I created or helped edit some of the articles they've proposed for speedy delete, so I was quick to come to the rescue of the others.

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Thanks For editing my page

Thanks for expanding the Putney Town page and adding the blade colours - I'm afraid I can't add pictures yet as I'm not autoconfirmed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haystackhair (talk • contribs) 16:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you very much for your comment regarding one of my pictures. Though the result is hundred percent oppose, I learned many issues related to photography from your and others comments. Since I am a novice in the filed of photography, I am still in my learning phase and would like to receive tips from you. I hope you won't mind if I request you in future to guide me through your comments regarding my pictures. Cheers. -- Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 14:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Linking England

Hi Motmit.

Thanks for your explanation as to why you unlinked England; I'd assumed it was just an inadvertent cut and paste error (like mine in removing the start/end info for the ferry). I've never used the 'Related changes' tool, so its usability has never been a factor in my decisions on what to link.

On reflection however, I suspect that usability of 'Related changes' should not be a factor is deciding on what to link or not. I recall when I first started editing WP there was an essay somewhere reminding editors that the target audience of WP were the readers, not other editors, and enjoining us to bear this in mind when making judgement calls. I can no longer find this article, but I think it is still valid. And 'Related changes' is not particularly useful (I think) for encyclopedia readers.

My tendancy, for better or for worse, is to link the first occurrence of any sensibly linkable name. I'm reluctant to try to second guess what may, or may not, be obvious to readers, especially readers for whom English may not be their first language. Certainly my experience of reading articles on the French and German WPs suggests that the more links there are, the easier it is to decipher an unfamiliar language. -- Chris j wood (talk) 13:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

River Lee Navigation locks

Hi Motmit. Thankyou for your contributions -much appreciated. I plan to add some more soon. Northmetpit (talk) 07:39, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Motmit for your kind words. But the task hasn't been completed. These two stop locks on the Limehouse Cut are they part of the Navigation? And where does Bow Locks fit in to the puzzle. Help please Northmetpit (talk) 19:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Motmit. Thanks for the reply. Check this photo out Bow Locks. Clearly signed No20. I'll do some detective work and find the editor who added the template, and try to clear this up. As with most things with the Lea/Lee -confusing. Cheers Northmetpit (talk) 07:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clan/Family Tweedie

Have you done much research regarding the Tweedie family? I am in the fortunate position to have two copies of The History of the Tweedie or Tweedy Family, scans from which provided the basis of my genealogical pages. --Heraldic (talk) 15:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Piccadilly / Bayswater

You are so right. Sorry about that. I had both the Hamar Bass entry and the Berkeley Levett entries open at the same time, and meant to insert the Bayswater info into Berkeley Levett (and thought I had). My mistake! Thanks.MarmadukePercy (talk) 15:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, I had read your piece before about Seymour de Lotbiniere, but didn't realize you were the author. Nice work there.MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Image copyright problem with Image:Venlaw01.jpg

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Silly me - I missed the copyright box which is so obvious, especially when the frame is truncated on the right. Motmit (talk) 16:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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And then I went and did it again because I did not want to interrupt what I was doing by going for the New Message, Motmit (talk) 16:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia commons and images

Incidentally, if you figure out how wikimedia commons works, please let me know. I uploaded two images there and they were, sadly, deleted. I formerly worked for a magazine and know something about copyright law and assured them there were no problems. No matter; gone. Good luck with that. It's a crazy system! Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again

Thank you again, this time for helping sort out the Berkeley Levett page. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User page

A typo in the plural of typo [OK, debatable]. You gotta laugh. Have a nice day! Ericoides (talk) 16:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Little Wittenham Bridge

I just created a stub for Little Wittenham Bridge and I was wondering whether you could spare a second to look at the lower info box containing the upstream and downstream crossings - I have managed to do the bridges but I am not confident about doing the Thames path crossings. Million thanks in advance, kind regards, nancy (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for helping me out with that one. As you have probably worked out I spent last week on the River and diligently tried to photograph every lock and bridge between Bray Lock and Sandford Lock(also some islands but I am having a right problem working out which is which!). I have been uploading the photographs to commons and will be doing some more tonight; they are grouped together in Category:Files_by_User:Nancy if you wanted to pick through them and see if there are any others which could be useful in articles. Kind regards nancy (talk) 11:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Duke of Lennox Yes, it is difficult to kill peasants. I mean

Pheasants.Cillmore (talk) 01:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Lock reach

It's between Swynford Bridge in Eynsham and the lock, looking towards the lock,whichever direction that is jimfbleak (talk) 16:25, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Preperatory School

I have been selecting the UK option for prep schools located within the UK, but it is entirely possible that I have made a mistake(s). Specifically, what articles are you referring to? ŁittleÄlien¹8² (talk\contribs) 22:39, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking the time to double-check my edits. Happy editing! ŁittleÄlien¹8² (talk\contribs) 22:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war on Sigmund Freud article

Motmit, I am currently engaged in an edit war with Commodore Sloat on the Sigmund Freud article. He is attempting to place all blame on me, although clearly we are equally responsible. If you were to comment on the situation, it might help prevent matters from degenerating further. Skoojal (talk) 08:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas Freshfield

Hi, thank you for editting the Douglas Freshfield article. I note you removed the [

HighKing (talk) 23:25, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Hi HK - Thanks for identifying the inconsistency in the DF article. It was my own sloppy editing which introduced England. As you see from the edit history I have had some battles with this article which is sourced from the Italian wiki and I have gone so far as to get copies of his original work to make corrections. Because I have not resolved all the details I have left the top level citation-needed template. The simple point that the article is making is that his parents took him on holidays as a child, eventually taking him to continental Europe. Whether they went to Man, Anglesey or Skye I do not yet know. British Isles is the highest level geographical definition which has a linkable wiki page that covers the situation. Sticking a citation tag on that does not add value and implies the his taking holidays as a child is open to question. Please do not pursue this as I prefer to spend my time putting text into articles. Regards Motmit (talk) 07:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, you claim that British Isles is the highest level geographical definition, and go on to mention Man, Anglesey and Skye. Do you suspect he left Great Britain for any holiday? I can only find a reference for Scotland and London. Do you have a reference for Man, Anglesey or Skye? The citation tag questions using the British Isles, not the holiday. BTW, not sure what you mean by "do not pursue as I prefer to spend my time putting text into articles" but it sounds as if you are questioning the value of being accurate or of providing references to support claims. --
HighKing (talk) 08:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Having read the Italian article you mention and done a little more digging, the interview with Adolfo Hess is more completely available here. It's clear from this interview that he visited the Lake district (specifically Lodore Falls) and Scotland, and after that went to the Alps. I've changed the article to reflect this and added this reference also. --
HighKing (talk) 10:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Hi, I propose to add something like the following to the article, based on the interview with Adolfo. Let me know, thank you.
In an interview with Adolfo Hess, Freshfield recalls that his family loved to take long holidays in the summer of up to five weeks. He recalls that when he was 6, they visited Lodore Falls in the Lake District where he was disappointed that the waterfall was slowed due to a sandbank. The following year they travelled to Scotland. In 1854, they travelled to the
HighKing (talk) 10:20, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Thanks for the excellent work on improving the article and getting citation. Please carry on. If I can get hold of an English original reference I will. "Don't pursue" means I didn't want to get involved in endless talk page discussions, though I appreciate your continued interest. Motmit (talk) 10:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks. --
HighKing (talk) 11:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Winshill

My apologies for thinking the section you added was copyvio, after a very careful review, I assess you are right it is not, but the first sentence and the addition of block quotes made me think otherwise for some reason. I have now removed these block quotes as you say it is an original draft. Happy editing!

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Whispers

Guess you've seen that Whispers School is to close. I read it in the Sunday Times.Mikeo1938 (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

template

Hi I'm editing the catalan wikipedia and I have seen that you have edited that template: Template:Railway line header. Do you know how to do to hide railway tables as a default option? Thanks--

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Thank you ;)--
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Nascent project

Good afternoon Motmit, I was planning on dropping you a line tonight about my idea for a Thames wikiproject but you beat me to it! I was hoping to get a few editors (and you are top of the list, in fact you are the only one on the list - do you know of any 'Thames' people I could approach) to collaborate on it whilst it is still in userpace and lick it in to shape, put a few templates together etc before launching it in to Wikipedia space & going on a recruitment drive. Obviously the page is still very much a work in progress but what do you think both of the page as it is and of the concept of a Thames Project as a whole? (p.s. doing Bray to Penton Hook and back tomorrow and Friday so lots more bridge/island/lock pictures on the way although will likely be badly lit with a rain splattered lens....) nancy talk 15:44, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Boveney Lock boat rollers

If you get a chance on Monday could you photograph the boat rollers at Boveney (perhaps even a shot of them in action..??) - I took one on Thursday but it is just too dim be be useable. Cheers, nancy talk 07:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kingston Railway Bridge

Are you sure about the 3 piers in the water for Kingston Railway Bridge? You are making me doubt my memory, but having been under it countless times I remember only 2 piers in the water (the 2 visible in the photo). Is there a pier very close to one bank or another? David Biddulph (talk) 08:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Orwell

Hi Motmit, good to hear from you and good to know that someone else is taking the Orwell article seriously. (The idea that the Ukrainian version is FA-status but the English-language version is not...well, I'm embarrassed about that.) I agree with you about what needs to be done. Apart from what I laid out in my suggestions on the talk page, it might be worth letting each other know about what secondary literature we have, so that we don't overlap too much. I have Woodcock's 'Crystal Spirit', Raymond Williams' rather unenthusiastic 'Orwell' (Fontana Modern Masters), Hitchens' 'Orwell's Victory' and the Crick and Taylor biographies, plus a Penguin collection of short memoirs called 'Orwell Remembered'. I also have access to John Atkins' 1954 critical study, interesting for an early perspective. I have some good (although not always very positive) quotes from people like Edward Said, plus most but not all of the volumes of Davison's Complete Works that are devoted to the collected journalism & letters. All of this should be good for background and sometimes for direct quotes. It would be great to get some more right-wing perspectives on Orwell; being a bit of a lefty I know they're out there but I haven't wasted my money on them. Although I personally believe that Orwell was a left-wing writer to his grave, I am more concerned in this article to bring out the nature of the debate about him than to push my own political line. An encyclopedia should be about the truth; the difficult bit is in outlining a complex truth in a limited space. Hope you agree. Lexo (talk) 22:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One final thing, not relevant at all to the article but something you may find interesting: although I am Irish, I was born in Kingston and spent the first two and a half years of my life in East Molesey. Lexo (talk) 22:34, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - have been thinking about the Orwell article and am having serious doubts about whether the article can be properly edited at all. Not that I don't think that it's possible to write a good article, but the edit count is ridiculous; on 9 September alone there were around 20 edits, many of which were sheer vandalism, while the rest were mostly tiny niggling things by people who want to push their own version of Orwell without regard for
WP:NPOV or even basic grammar. On top of that, the article is just a huge sprawling mess. Somebody who's a Jack London fan adds a sentence about how "Road to Wigan Pier" resembles something by Jack London, so they do. It's going to be a nightmare to keep the article in a reasonably stable condition and I, for one, do not have the time right now to do so. This is the busiest time of the year for me at work, and I can't see myself having any free time to work on the article until November at the earliest. Also, I am not sure that I agree that if we get the biography right, the rest will follow; probably because I am much more interested in Orwell's work than in his life. Finally, the article is currently suffering from bloat, and the structure will have to be rethought before we can get anywhere, and that will mean that a lot of stuff will have to be cut. That will annoy a lot of people. So, I will not be doing anything to the article for the foreseeable future. I don't need the kind of abuse that the kind of changes I envisage will inevitably generate. Sorry. Lexo (talk) 00:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Hi - thanks for the note. I only noticed after I'd written the above that there was a semi-protect, which may slow down the vandalism a bit and which makes me feel less pessimistic about the article. The most useful division of labour might be if you concentrate on the life and I concentrate on the work, seeing as those are our respective areas of interest. Incidentally, I recently encountered what must be one of the very few unreconstructed Stalinists left alive - you can see the spoor here. This guy wrote a 1-star Amazon review of Homage to Catalonia in which he sneered at Orwell for "failing to notice" that the Soviet Union "helped" the Spanish Republic. Hmm. Lexo (talk) 10:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi - have no problem with the edit you made, but WP standards (and in fact general editing standards outside WP) do require inline citations for quotes. It's a good quote and you're right to put it in, with the caveat that George Bowling does not always speak for Orwell. (I actually like all of Orwell's novels except for 'Burmese Days', which for some reason I can't get into.) So we need a proper citation. Check
here for guidelines about providing proper references; me, I prefer the Harvard style of citation, where references are given in a Notes section to author, date and page, with the full details about said volume given in the References section (which doesn't exist right now). Lexo (talk) 22:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Nice going, Motmit!--Technopat (talk) 15:23, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bowing to your superior knowledge :) and have reverted. As for the Crick bit, I thought it would be better to use his own article page to highlight his angle, but your explanation justifies it being included on Orwell's page - could you elaborate on it? Re. the ...more...than there seemed to be something wonky in there (maybe a comma missing?) and the missing "than" seemed to jump out at me. Sigh! --Technopat (talk) 18:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings Motmit - When you have time, please have a butcher's at the recent edit to the Georges Kopp article and my comments at Talk:Georges Kopp. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 11:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - and sorry for the redlink (one day I'll remember to hit that preview button before the save button...) And to remember to sign :( --Technopat (talk) 14:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Planning to get into it this evening. As for you-know-who, s/he's been too busy deleting assorted criticism by other editors from his/her talk page :) to bother 'bout my edits. Happy editing! Be catching up with you anon. --Technopat (talk) 19:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

James Cracknell membership of Kingston Rowing Club

I notice that on the Kingston Rowing Club page you have added James Cracknell as a "notable member" of the club. I know, of course, that Janes was at Kingston GS, but I don't remember him representing KRC. I thought he'd gone straight to Leander on leaving KGS, so could you please remind me when you believe he was at KRC? David Biddulph (talk) 23:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Sonning

Towards Shiplake/london so I suppose downstream of sonning ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scu98rkr (talk • contribs) 11:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Project Derbyshire

Thanks for your articles on the Evans guys. These are valuable additions. Are you interested in getting these to a "Did you know" nomination. They would have to grow slightly as you need 1500 characters of real text (ie ignoring info boxes and titles etc). I could help if you are. Anyway thx. Victuallers (talk) 09:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I found a picture of Francis Hurt by Wright which I thought would be useful. But there are 3 or 4 generations of Francis' shown on the wirksworth? site about the Alderwasley residents. I will look and see if I can find eliz as well. You really are doing excellent work. cheers Victuallers (talk) 12:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This one? Victuallers (talk) 17:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Userboxes

I see you have a note about having difficulty lining up userboxes. One solution is to put them into a table as I have with mine. Mjroots (talk) 08:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Evershed

Hi there. Not that I should have any reason to doubt you, as it does sound plausible, but do you have any source for the birth year of Frank Evershed? None of the sources I checked prior to writing the article had one. Bobo. 13:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On User talk:Bobo192, Motmit said:
My source is the OPS database, where he is listed with the others (apart from Sydney who is missing for some reason). As the index is by quarters,I cannot give the actual date. They must all have been children of the brewer Sydney whom I have just added. Any progress on the missing pre-45 Derbs cricketers would be most useful.


Thank you very much for informing me. Information about another Sydney Evershed (born 1861) is visible on that page - indeed they are all sons of Sydney senior.

What information on progress of pre-45 cricketers do you require? I have a complete list of Derbyshire cricketers on my User:Bobo192/Sandbox, if you wish to look - as well as players from other teams - if you require anything else, please let me know. Bobo. 13:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Catalan

Yes, finally I find something to collapsible rail line maps, we have put lots of rail maps in the catalan wikipedia and I think that now there are all the maps of the catalan railway net (you can see

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Do you know Catalonia? I have seen that you live in Surrey. I would do a master in University of Surrey when i finish my degree in Barcelona.--
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Bollo Brook

Ref Your note - There's only one reference to "Bollar" in VCH, whereas there are many to "Bollo", e.g. in its discussion of Acton (Bollo brook rises near Fordhook and flows south-eastward to Acton Green, passing into Chiswick) - the Chiswick House site refers to it as that and there are a number of local street names such as "Bollo Bridge Road", "Bollo Lane" that support this as the current spelling. It also features in the description of the Battle of Turnham Green. Various references mention the name being derived from "Bull Hollow". I'll update when I find a moment. And maybe add a picture of where it empties into the Thames. -- Jo2802 (talk) 14:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Berkeley Levett

Thanks, as always, this time for your help with the Levett piece. I'd been meaning to get back to it but hadn't. You got the ball rolling again, and eventually we'll get it all fleshed out. Take care and regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:55, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And if you're up for a challenge, have a go at sorting out John Levett (athlete). I haven't been able to bring myself to even get into that one....Thanks again and regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 10:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added a link from Meynell Hunt to Hugo Meynell for Hamar. I hope that that's helpful. (I thought for some folks who might not know, it could be a good jump.) If you don't agree, go ahead and remove it. Thanks again for your help.MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I also put in a link to the History of the Meynell Hounds to the page where the author recalls the day when Bass was made 'joint-Master of the pack.' You can take it out if you think it's extraneous, but I thought you might enjoy seeing it.MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, in the interests of giving you a good laugh, my favorite reference in the Meynell volume is this one, where T. Levett-Princep, being a non-foxhunting man himself, is happy to volunteer his foxes for the good of the hunt.[3] Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New abbey posting

Hey, I thought you might enjoy this one: Sibton Abbey Take care, MarmadukePercy (talk) 08:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

River Colne, Hertfordshire

Hi, thanks for the note. I will have a look soon. Bob1960evens (talk) 19:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a map, and a note on the talk page about the bit near Heathrow Airport. Bob1960evens (talk) 10:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the note about the Longford River. Actually it was the D of N river, and I had the Longford labelled as the D of N. I have also tracked down the Alder Bourne, Shire Ditch and Bigley Ditch, and added them to the map. Also the Colne joins the canal at Rickmansworth, so I had not spotted a large part of it. I have added the junction, but it is fairly simple above that, so I have not added much more, as the map is already fairly big. Bob1960evens (talk) 17:03, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great work!

Greetings Motmit - Haven't had time to mention it before, but greatly appreciate your improvements. That's the way to do it! Regards, --Technopat (talk) 10:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but poor substitute for messing 'bout in boats down Kingston way (or anywhere else for that matter)... Regs., --Technopat (talk) 23:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe that should have been Tide End's Town :) Regs. --Technopat (talk) 15:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too much topspin on your on your last (re. teddies) - went way over me 'ead! --Technopat (talk) 17:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lenwade mill

Hi. Motmit. Thanks for the kind comment. I tried to get a close up of the mill but everything there is in private hands. There will be a couple of additions to the Lenwade gallery. Its a very interesting area with the mixture of rural and industrial landscapes-something like the Lee Valley. Northmetpit (talk) 08:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Summary

Dear Motmit, the article on the River Thames is the only article in Wikipedia I have come across which has a "summary" section. Typically the first section is the summary without requiring a title. To have a consistent article style I suggest that the standard should be adhered to. Inwind (talk) 21:18, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Grüsse Gott Thank you for your interest in our greatest river. The article is long and contains a considerable amount of information. For this reason a summary has been provided as a benefit for the reader. This is not the only instance. The use of over-long ledes is discouraged and it is good to keep the table of contents close to the top. The article has had this summary for over a year now and, with several hundred thousand readers in that time, has met with no previous objection. I am sorry that this is outside your previous experience, but that is no reason to change it. In fact I commmend it to you for wider use because the interests of the reader are more important than the imposition of unnecessary conformity. I prefer not to spend my time on talk pages as this has interrupted my editing. Regards Motmit (talk) 21:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC) (copied from User talk:Inwind#River Thames. Inwind (talk) 14:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Motmit, the suggestion of a summary heading sounds interesting. To encourage other people to comment I suggest a discussion on
Wikipedia talk:Lead section before applying it to other articles. Inwind (talk) 14:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Eton in the Forties

I see you've been reading more of Eton in the Forties. It is rather wonderful isn't it? & I love the way it has been digitised - just like reading a "real" book. Nancy talk 09:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mmmmn, walking in the UK - there was a particular (new) user and a couple of related IPs who was adding it on the basis of "this is an article about somewhere you could walk to, by or in" as well as to articles were already in a category which was a child of
Public house which at least showed they had a sense of humour... I was pretty much losing the will to live by the end of it so I'm planning on going back and checking that I didn't muck anything up. :) --Nancy talk 11:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Coords

Thanks for that. I was vaguely aware I had entered stupid robot mode by the end of the night; the record shows it took me at least two attempts to mangle a couple of the coords. I'll double check my work. --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The List

Greetings Motmit - well done! You beat me to it (again?) After adding all that stuff to the IRD last night began to have second thoughts and was thinking of starting a devoted article to the List this evening. Cheers!--Technopat (talk) 16:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

James Wright

Thank you for leaving a note on my page - I created an article about a completely different James Wright quite recently - therefore I will eventually move James Wright (cricketer), the Hertfordshire cricketer, to James Wright (cricketer, born 1948), and when I create the Derbyshire cricketer, I will place it at James Wright (cricketer, born 1874). Bobo. 17:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Interview with D.W. Freshfield by Adolfo Hess (Italian)
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