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Familia
Just have a question to ask: Why not spell out months? It would be more clear if it's spelled.
Also, whenever you make a caption, you are supposed to put it in: |caption=Caption text, and NOT in |image=[[File:Example.jpg|Caption text]], because it would not work.
--Chacha15 (talk) 18:58, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- Incorrect. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles/Layouts for an example article of the favored layout of articles on automobiles. Study it carefully, and then discuss. Thanks. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 19:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- No, you are wrong. Look at the Familia article. You cannot see ANY caption in the generation infoboxes anymore... --94.9.145.251 (talk) 18:17, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have already explained this to you: the caption now reads if you let your cursor hover above the image. See the link I gave you above before you make any more style changes. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 18:21, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Giovanni Michelotti
You state that the PAC project dated from 1985. This was five years after GM died. Is it something produced by his firm after his death or did he have substantial involvement in it before he died ? RGCorris (talk) 11:30, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- I don't exactly know, I am just stating what's in a period source (August 1985). ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 18:20, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Unter eigenem Namen stellte Michelotti auf dem Genfer Autosalon 1985 einen Prototyp auf Basis des Daihatsu Cuore vor. Das Modell mit der Bezeichnung PAC soll optimal den Anforderungen entsprechen, die an einen vorwiegend im Stadtverkehr und für mittlere Distanzen eingesetzten Kleinwagen zu stellen sind. Wert legt die Firma auf viel Platz im Innenraum, den sie durch eine ökonomische und statisch durchdachte Anordnung der obligatorischen Komponenten zu gewinnen versucht.
(My translation: Under their own name, Michelotti presented a prototype on Daihatsu Cuore basis at the 1985 Geneva Motor Show. The model, called PAC, is meant to optimally meet the requirements needed from a small city car, mainly intended for city driving or medium distances. The company sets particular value to interior space, which they try to obtain by an economical and sophisticated arrangement of the necessary componentry.)
- There is also an accompanying picture, which claims 23 kW and 115 km/h. Anyhow, Michelotti himself was probably not involved with the PAC - the Cuore upon which it was based wasn't even presented until July 1980. But Michelotti as a company continued until the early nineties, in the hands of his employees and his son. I believe it was then merged with Vignale? Anyhow, I have no sources for the later history of Michelotti, so it will have to wait until another day. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 19:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I would suggest that as the page is about the man, not the company, this doesn't belong there. Perhaps the company deserves its own page ? RGCorris (talk) 20:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- While the title of the article is indeed Giovanni Michelotti, the content is nearly entirely about the company. I would suggest a renaming, with perhaps the creation of a new article for Giovanni himself. Although, since there are no sources regarding Giovanni (all of the sources regard the cars, with not even a citation for his birth and death dates!) there might not even be enough for a stub. If you disagree, we could always bring it up somewhere else where more opinions could be aired, such as the Project Automobile talkpage. Best, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 06:55, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I would suggest that as the page is about the man, not the company, this doesn't belong there. Perhaps the company deserves its own page ? RGCorris (talk) 20:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- There is also an accompanying picture, which claims 23 kW and 115 km/h. Anyhow, Michelotti himself was probably not involved with the PAC - the Cuore upon which it was based wasn't even presented until July 1980. But Michelotti as a company continued until the early nineties, in the hands of his employees and his son. I believe it was then merged with Vignale? Anyhow, I have no sources for the later history of Michelotti, so it will have to wait until another day. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 19:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, if someone else has time to create a stand-alone entry on The Man, I should be happy and interested. Italian wiki does seem to spin out "...Michelotti worked for a number of design houses, notably Vignale, before opening his own design studio in Ita..." to a enough for a couple of small paras / a "stub". And it includes as a source the image of a page from an Italian motor magazine recording an interview the man gave of which the first (relatively long) answer appears to cover some of the "before he was famous" stuff. Other bits of that interview might also furnish the odd shaft of new insight. Shame (at least for me) that it's in Italian. But of anyone ever does have long enough to struggle with it, it has the makings of the beginning of something that might in due course grow up to become a respectable biographal entry. Regards Charles01 (talk) 17:14, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- That article contains a little smidgeon, certainly enough to maintain a stub for the man. No matter what, much work carried out by Michelotti as listed in the article was probably done by his staff and his son, so I think that such a listing would be better placed in Michelotti (company). Charles, what would you recommend we title the page on the company?
- No strongly held views. But having looked around wikipedia for all of 120 seconds to see how they approach comparable questions on Giugaro, Pininfarina, Bertone .... My first thought (after noting that I should have gone to bed hours ago) is that one call the entry on The Man "Giovanni Michelotti" (or "Giovanni Michelotti (designer)" if you follow the Italian and French wikis and plain "Michelotti" for the company.
- I don't have the information related to how far which models were done by Giovanni on his own and how far by collaborators or his son. If that info doesn't turn up in a biography or even company publicity from the period (or subsequent) I'm not sure I would wish to go down the road of "what if..."s and "probably". If one of us were able to access such a source in the future, then it might indeed recommend another answer on what we should call the business "Fratelli Michelotti" (tho I think not), "Michelotti e figlio" (tho somehow...) or whatever. Regards Charles01 (talk) 23:50, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- Well, the company was originally called Carrozzeria Michelotti. By 1977 it was called G. Michelotti Studio Stile, and by 1986 it is listed as Studio Tecnico Design Carrozzeria G. Michelotti. If not just plain Michelotti, I suggest Carrozzeria Michelotti, as it would have some continuity and clarify the difference between the designer and his firm. His son Edgardo was deeply involved for many years, so simply ascribing all Michelotti designs to Giovanni might be a bit hasty. The firm lasted until 1993, and was reborn as Michelotti Design in 1995 (in Edgardo's hands). Cheers, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- It sounds to me as though you have found the answer. Carrozzeria Michelotti it is. Also you seem to have started researching the article which is even better. If I was feeling very pedantic, I would say that "Carrozzeria Michelotti" sounds like a firm that concentrated on making car bodies, as in Carrozzeria Ghia. However (1) I have very little Italian and may well have a wrong understanding of "Carrozzeria", (2) I have very little knowledge of the business: maybe they did construct more car bodies that I knew about, or at least planned to do so when Giovanni M chose that name for his business and (3) "Carrozzeria Michelotti" is a beautiful and euphonious combination of syllables. Please, as they say, go for it. And success Charles01 (talk) 18:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- The firm certainly made car bodies - one of the reasons Standard-Triumph used them was because they could turn a sketch into a full car in double-quick time. The Stag was originally made by the firm to demonstrate what they were capable of at a motor show but S-T liked it so much it was withheld for subsequent production. As far as the article name is concerned, I think the firm is usually referred to simply as "Michelotti", in the same way that Bertone, Ghia, Zagato or Pininfarina are - the strict official name(s) of the business is rarely mentioned. There seems to be little biographical detail of Giovanni available in English, and I question whether there is a need for two articles, one called "Giovanni Michelotti" about the man and a second called "Carrozzeria Michelotti" about the design house - it might be better to have a single article called "Michelotti" which would include sections on the man (and perhaps the son) and the design house. RGCorris (talk) 13:23, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Such might indeed be best. We are luckily not restricted to English-language material, but since Giovanni and his firm are inextricably linked I guess a split isn't necessary. If the material gets unwieldy we could always split it later. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 16:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- The firm certainly made car bodies - one of the reasons Standard-Triumph used them was because they could turn a sketch into a full car in double-quick time. The Stag was originally made by the firm to demonstrate what they were capable of at a motor show but S-T liked it so much it was withheld for subsequent production. As far as the article name is concerned, I think the firm is usually referred to simply as "Michelotti", in the same way that Bertone, Ghia, Zagato or Pininfarina are - the strict official name(s) of the business is rarely mentioned. There seems to be little biographical detail of Giovanni available in English, and I question whether there is a need for two articles, one called "Giovanni Michelotti" about the man and a second called "Carrozzeria Michelotti" about the design house - it might be better to have a single article called "Michelotti" which would include sections on the man (and perhaps the son) and the design house. RGCorris (talk) 13:23, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- It sounds to me as though you have found the answer. Carrozzeria Michelotti it is. Also you seem to have started researching the article which is even better. If I was feeling very pedantic, I would say that "Carrozzeria Michelotti" sounds like a firm that concentrated on making car bodies, as in Carrozzeria Ghia. However (1) I have very little Italian and may well have a wrong understanding of "Carrozzeria", (2) I have very little knowledge of the business: maybe they did construct more car bodies that I knew about, or at least planned to do so when Giovanni M chose that name for his business and (3) "Carrozzeria Michelotti" is a beautiful and euphonious combination of syllables. Please, as they say, go for it. And success Charles01 (talk) 18:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- Well, the company was originally called Carrozzeria Michelotti. By 1977 it was called G. Michelotti Studio Stile, and by 1986 it is listed as Studio Tecnico Design Carrozzeria G. Michelotti. If not just plain Michelotti, I suggest Carrozzeria Michelotti, as it would have some continuity and clarify the difference between the designer and his firm. His son Edgardo was deeply involved for many years, so simply ascribing all Michelotti designs to Giovanni might be a bit hasty. The firm lasted until 1993, and was reborn as Michelotti Design in 1995 (in Edgardo's hands). Cheers, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
'Rusty' Canadian car
That pic on the Familia article...
It's the only image uploaded on WikiMedia Commons that features the rear view of the North American version. That's why, please keep it. --Chacha15 (talk) 19:57, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- My dear Chacha, there is simply no need to include a front and a rear view of every single iteration in every single market in the article. Nonetheless, I don't particularly enjoy this constant reverting so I'll leave it there for someone else to remove. And I will bring a camera with me when I go to work today, hopefully I'll find a better car to photograph. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 20:00, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Familia
Why do you have to add the 323C and Lantis images into the gallery? It's not good because it belongs to its sections. They should be distinguished from the normal 323/Protege. --Chacha15 (talk) 11:20, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
I have not, this time. Other editors did (check the history).Because there is no need for so many large photos, and because the Lantis/F has its own article where there are tons of photos. I have already explained this several times in my edit summaries, if you had bothered to read them. And it's not just me, User:IFCAR feels the same way. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- Oops, my bad - that was my edit. Anyhow, the reasons still stand. Look, me and another editor are spending hours reverting your changes because they make the article worse. I have already given you a link to a "model page" for automobiles. This is the style to be followed, whether you agree with it or not. I don't like certain strictures (such as the use of a comma and then a space between a number and the unit: 1,800 cc looks like crap to me, I prefer 1800cc) but these are the rules and I follow them because it makes life easier for everyone. Just collaborate, and maybe get a few more edits underneath your belt before you begin to engage in big style changes such as these. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 17:38, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Re:
Hello Choppers!
Sorry, but I was off last day. On portuguese wikipedia we use Captcha for new users even others projetcs editors. User accounts are not created in global login automatically, but when you access the community page. Start making small edits and it will be gone. If you have problems with the Portuguese, I suggest you go to "Preferences" and change the language to English. So it'll be easier to edit. Any help with Portuguese just ask. I started editing here and I am very confused. All buttons are in the wrong place
Willy Weazley 15:20, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Portuguese version:
As contas de usuário não criadas no login global automaticamente, e sim quando você acessa a página da comunidade. Caso você tenha problemas com o português, sugiro que vá em "Preferências" e mude a lingua para inglês. Assim vai ser mais fácil editar. Qualquer ajuda com portugues é só perguntar. Eu começei a editar por aqui e estou muito confundido. Todos os botões ficam no lugar errado!!!!
- I was hoping it would go away automatically, good to know this is the case. I know enough romance languages to decipher Portuguese without real problems, I just wanted to say I am not going to be trying to write content in a language I cannot handle. Obrigado, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 15:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Well, everybody calls me Wikicat there. But do not listen the gossips. God this Brazilians and Portugueses editors!
Willy Weazley 15:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Rollback
Why did you removed all the contents of the Opel Movano page, if there was no reason for that? Maby do some research on your own, before you delete randomly things on Wikipedia. I guess you are able to understand some German right, therefore take a look on the contents from the German wikipedia site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Binefor (talk • contribs) 08:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Predecessor and successor can be subjective. Unless you can find a source (and another WP page is not a source) you can't enter such info. Also, Kalaua/Scheno/Miniotx - stop using sockpuppets and please go away until you learn how to work with others. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 15:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, then tell me what i can do better. I haven´t written manure nor offended anyone of you. I'm not an old Wikipedian to know all the rules here, so please don´t hold this against me, if i did something wrong.
- I believe that you were originally blocked for uploading images that were copyright violations. Copyvios (such as official Opel photographs, as the constant stream of Opel Mokka photos you are trying to upload) are very dangerous to the entire Wikipedia project; a successful US lawsuit could bankrupt this entire endeavour in a heartbeat. You also have a Very Bad history of communicating with other editors, and after you were originally blocked for some infraction or other you have begun creating new accounts and kept editing in spite of your blocks. You also engage in incessant monomaniacal wikifiddling, and have often engaged in unfounded additions of new articles and material. As an example, the Opel Movano is not a successor to the Opel Blitz, unless you can find a reputable source to the contrary. And if another editor should disagree with your opinion of something - there are often good sources that state contrary opinions - don't just create a new account and revert them over and over and over again. Be polite, be communicative, and if things become deadlocked invite uninvolved editors to help settle matters.
- Anyhow, this is probably the first useful attempt at communication that I have ever seen from you, and it makes me happy. Please continue like this, and I shall be happy to collaborate with you. Remember that the interest you have in pages is shared by many others, whose opinions may differ from yours in subtle ways, and treat others the way you would like to be treated. And please stop uploading pictures you find on the 'net. Best, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 06:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, i apologize for my behavior in the past and i am looking forward to collaborate with you and the others as well. Can i change my Wiki name or should i keep the current one? Can i still make edits without having to be locked or reported immediately? Greeting, Binefor
- That is up to the relevant admins. Understanding what went wrong usually goes pretty far. When writing messages, always begin with one colon more than the preceding editor did - this will cause the section to indent and makes it easier to follow a conversation. Use the "preview" button, and test it out. Also, to sign a message on a talkpage, end it with four tildes (~~~~) and your signature will appear automatically, like this: ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 15:10, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, i apologize for my behavior in the past and i am looking forward to collaborate with you and the others as well. Can i change my Wiki name or should i keep the current one? Can i still make edits without having to be locked or reported immediately? Greeting, Binefor
Familia
You have messages on the Mazda Familia talk page. --Chacha15 (talk) 11:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
...
I understand it but, please, can you stop hunting me down on every edit I do? --Chacha15 (talk) 18:12, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- You keep making disruptive edits. It took weeks to get you to stop adding double images to infoboxes, and following you around to clean up is the only way to protect articles from your depradations. Please calm down, take your time with your edits, and try to make sure that you are actually improving articles rather than just reshuffling and adding photos. Cheers, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'd be grateful if you could come and take a look at Mini (marque), where Chacha15 is doing exactly the same thing as on other car-related articles - trying to impose reverted changes through edit warring. Rangoon11 (talk) 19:58, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
When...
...did we engage?--IIIraute (talk) 02:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- ahhh, the unforgiving type... ok. got it: Internal combustion engine - well, the ref was wrong, and it isn't that "intellectual" to credit one person for it. I showed good behavior after your edit; didn't I? So, don't bear a Grudge. --IIIraute (talk) 02:58, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- I guess we did interact - had forgotten about that. And yup, you were definitely willing to quietly disengage. I have a feeling that the original quote was actually in EB as stated, and was edited afterwards - sort of like quoting WP itself - this is why I much prefer printed sources when possible. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 04:35, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- Never - I have just been following your edits and arguments tangentially. The word "engage" itself is a bit problematic if read the wrong way, reminding me of airplane dogfights... I am not saying you're always wrong (e.g. I agree with you that "Mini (Marque)" is a crap title which inevitably leads to a crap article), I am just saying that what you write often comes across as fantastically rude and I think you therefore find yourself in many more arguments than you should. Rangoon11 has his own problems (impulsive, edit-warrior) and so do I (although I can't imagine what they may be). In any case, the fact that I have a history of cooperation/communication with Rangoon while I am wary of you was mainly intended to strengthen my support for your position. Best, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 02:53, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- And no harm meant by me - I would like for you to stick around as you're clearly sane and productive, qualities which are hard to find on the internet and in the world in general. Stalking has also often lead me to many interesting situations... Grüßli, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 03:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm relieved to hear that. Although it maybe doesn't look that way - but I honestly really hate these agressive discussions - really hate them! It consumes so much time & energy. A while ago, one of the editors wrote: editing the WP is like building a sand-castle - the next day you come back to the beach, it is gone. If you have a look at some of the points I made earlier[1] ...maybe sometimes I do get a bit emotional and impatient, but I really tried to keep it peaceful.... however, it just went down a one-way road. The article as it is, just makes no sense. WPs strength is also its demise. Isn't it ironic that with all our technological progress during the last 4000 years, we haven't really developed anything longer-lasting than Cuneiform script. Grüßli in return, --IIIraute (talk) 03:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have come to realize that when another editor is completely wrong, then stating my point of view and then withdrawing usually has one or several of the following effects:
- The silly other editor realizes their fault (always surprising to me)
- other uninvolved editors get around to seeing the conversation (hopefully it is not an argument yet - people are much less likely to follow a long acrimonious exchange carefully)
- I change my own mind - this can be somewhat embarrassing if steps one and two have also occurred, but I think that acknowledging such a change may gain one more future credibility.
- One may realize that the entire argument is based on some faulty principles, and the real problem becomes apparent = the capitalization of MINI wouldn't really matter if the articles were properly and logically divided.
- But leaving an article in what I consider a bad state for a week or so doesn't really matter. I obviously don't always follow these strictures myself, viz my ongoing attempts to get Chacha15 to stop pissing everyone off, but when I disagree with another mature person then things hopefully become different. And say what you will, but both you and Rangoon want what's best for WP. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 04:31, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Your DYK– MV-1
Assuming you are self nominating, you need to go here and follow the bouncing ball. FWIW, you taxicab article could use a few more citations, I think. Good luck. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, I really don't care enough about the MV-1 to go through any further work to include it, so I guess I'll just let it wither on the wine. Thanks, though. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 05:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, just saw your additions - thanks! Even if I personally don't really care about the MV-1 (I just happened to snap a photo and it needed somewhere to go), I am glad someone else feels the article worthy of an effort. Cheers, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 05:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Citroen C3 Picasso
Hi Chopper. Is there a manual of style preference for the layout of the references section and external sources? I can't find one. Thanks Jenova20 15:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know, but usually if there are different ideas then the rule is to stick with the existing method. Is there a conflict? ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 19:39, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- I changed the C3 Picasso layout to the way I like it to look, just to show. Feel free to change it back if you'd like. What I like about the article is that I cannot tell whether you like the car or not, it displays an admirable level of evenhandedness. I made some other minor edits as well. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 19:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- I don't drive and it's an ugly car lol. I did the best i could with the information i could find and displayed everything as neutral as possible =]...And i didn't even get a barnstar =P (HINT)
- I like the change you made, i just don't like when the "external sources" bit is below the references as it seems hidden. Thanks Jenova20 20:03, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- I changed the C3 Picasso layout to the way I like it to look, just to show. Feel free to change it back if you'd like. What I like about the article is that I cannot tell whether you like the car or not, it displays an admirable level of evenhandedness. I made some other minor edits as well. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 19:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, one usually reaches the references by clicking through directly from the in-line reference in question, while the external source section should be more accessible while browsing. Cheers - sorry, I don't give barnstars, all you'll get from me is a compliment in writing ;) ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 20:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'll take it =P
- I know your speciality is car articles but can i ask for a review on 20:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, one usually reaches the references by clicking through directly from the in-line reference in question, while the external source section should be more accessible while browsing. Cheers - sorry, I don't give barnstars, all you'll get from me is a compliment in writing ;) ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 20:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Uh, I don't know too much about how articles about online magazines are supposed to look, sorry. And although I work only a block away from the Stonewall Inn, I must admit I am not to sharp on LGBT issues either. Although if one thing, it seems that the article is mostly about two particular controversies and nothing else, maybe something about the layout of the site and its overall composition (how much celebrity stuff vs real news, is there only LGBT-related content?). That's the best I can do, cheers. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 03:35, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Apologies
Hey, apology acepted. It was not your fault, anyways.Rockclaw1030 (talk) 20:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
DYK for MV-1
nominate ) 16:04, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
A brownie for you!
<blush> ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 02:49, 13 April 2012 (UTC) Honda CityA while back you made a proposal at Talk:Honda City. Might be time to have another look? Warren (talk) 14:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC) You're invited to Wiki-Gangs of New York @ NYPL on April 21!
Philippine WikiConYou are invited to the 3rd Philippine Wiki Conference (WikiCon) on May 26, 2012 9am-1pm at the co.lab.exchange in Pasig City. Please fill this form should you signify interest. --Exec8 (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC) Re: Ur add to my "talkpage" at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QUIX4U#DelicaCheers.. Oh ... AND NO. Mitsubishi Motors Corporation .. "actually" called the COLT - as a ? Mitsubishi Motors Corporation Colt T-120. MINE was "one" of about ELEVEN variants. Mine was the : Mitsubishi COLT T-120-Y (Cab Chassis ONLY -- that was "shipped" DIRECT FROM JAPAN.. As a COLT. And ...? Nowhere in ANY of the "original" FIVE publications .. sourced DIRECT from: Mitsubishi Moptors Corporation (in Japan).. Had any of these ever "mentioned" that these COLT trucks & VANS All ELEVEN VARIANTS THEREOF = 11 Models. (including trucks / panelvans & with passenger 10 & 11 seater VAN models - also included) Nowhere were any mentioned as being -- "from" anything other than a BROAD range of "COLT variants.. There was absolutely NO MENTION (anywhere) that THESE COLTS .. were called ? Delica (either here in NZ - where DELICA's - as VANS ONLY - were sold twenty years later) Re: http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/File:13-_Mitsubishi_COLT_1978_T120_-_C27005_PARTS.JPG ??? Delica .. That (model) never became even known in NZ .. until many, many YEARS later. 20 in fact. When the "flash" L300 "Passenger & Panel" vans .. were sold .. IN THE Early 1990's ... Twenty YEARS after the "original" Colt (variants) were sold.. in NZ http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Mitsubishi_pickup_trucks QUIX4U (talk) 00:15, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
unusual, OLD & small cars... the weirder & less known the better.So..? U like cars.. that are unusual, small AND OLD.. well golly gee.. so do I. And I have several PHOTOS.. stills AND the other type too (Moving ones) They're called video and I do them with an even smaller camera than the one you apparently use. It's my Nokia .mpeg4 cellphone. re: Austin Mini Moke 1964 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVl3i6H1VCY Polaris QUADBIKE (dual use 8.wheeler) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mft49z87WU (yes) W E K N O W (our lights are on) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Re4KaXlqU Inverted Smallness ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP3Qg2amPww (oops too large) ? Old, Older & REALLY (REALLY) OLD !!! Includes Renualt Crawler Tractor (only working one in existance) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sltsZaFmS4 Wireless (radio controlled) Crane Truck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPITu5-ZfiA M Y J E W L (Austin 1936 Ruby 7 Jewel) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwJRYypSjiY Morris Oxford (can't remember it's vintage) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wxQs9e9NrE WWII Brengun Carrier, WWII M/C ... Oh & a BATTLETRUCK (or two) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zPNFZY4k60 Lots of weird & wacky ones.. including an ? OLD LIVE STEAM ROAD TRACTION ENGINE (being driven) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w7kcT5LiMU Bradford Jowett Van (miniature) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPq-RpJqqRU (video includes a photo slideshow of "lots" of other "variant" Bradfords., etc) Original "Suzuki" (2.wh 6.People 1.Seat) "People_Mover" ... With a genuine 3.wh (iron_road) hand-trolley - (in a pictorial slideshow only) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT2ztzVyrdY Some 3.wh Hydraulic (foot operated) single person LADDERS Called Hy-Picks & Hydralada's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f0YA0MX42s A couple of really (really) "ancient types" .. one a putt-putt single banger (chain driven) & the other .. Modified http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KA60YpMWhw 3. Snowcats.. WIDETRACK (ex) Antartica Snow Tractors http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRR_t35zFKY Several "cars" that MOVE without wheels even.!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH8de19EM1o And lastly .. some pedal powered railcars.? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6cq82D1W0U I still haven't UPLOADED the 4.seater 1936 Morgan 3.wheeler CAR Nor some others.. recently taken. But yes ... I "too" like unusaul, small vintage cars etc... QUIX4U (talk) 03:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC) Congrats
Kia SephiaFYI, there seems to be an issue with this ISBN. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:39, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Subaru OutbackI do not appreciate what you did. I created those articles to make the split more smooth. The concerns of mine and one other person that I have seen were completely ignored. There is almost no point to having a talk page if it is ignored like this. I have just overlooked it, forgetting it exists (I haven't edited in a while), but you blatantly ignored my concerns. I apologize for what I have done, but I feel that it was absolutely necessary. — Preceding ) 18:36, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
MarcusHookPa (talk ) 18:41, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Peugeot 604Hi: Thanks for tidying up the references in the Peugeot 604 entry. I didn´t know there was any kind of a limit on the number of views one could add to an article so I´ve simply read them and condensed them and added them in date order. The idea was that readers could draw their own conclusions whereas if I try to boil down the nine magazine reviews I feel I am adding my own opinion. On my own time I´m writing an essay about this car (with no commercial or educational goal in mind at all) and here I will boil things down and try to parse the language; that I see as being something personal that doesn´t fit in to Wikipedia´s style or principles. Incidentally, only one review I´ve read, the Motor test (Nov 1975)actually described the car as it would be seen later on (as mostly average but with a good ride and nice rear seats). Everyone else at the time raved about the fine ride and lovely interior and more or less underplayed the downsides (esp. the dashboard). Was Motor prescient or were its views out of step? I rather think that the difference between Motor and just about every other review is that Motor downplayed the qualitative factors and focused on the quantitative ones. And this is how we are today. So, how many critical appraisal references would you consider as appropriate? RichardCasalingua (talk) 19:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Rollbacker flag revokedBroad warning concerning you and other editorsI strongly suggest that all editors involved in this edit war view and take heed of the warning I've given at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:MarcusHookPa_reported_by_User:Mr.choppers_.28Result:_protected.2C_rights_revoked.2C_blocks_next_time.29. --slakr\ talk / 07:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC) Ford Taurus MergeHello! Not to be bothersome considering you're in the middle of contributing to the dispute over the Outback, but could you Bookster451 (talk ) 19:16, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Found Hino factory photo of BriskaHello, can we use the photos of the Briska at this site using the same copyright declaration used for the factory photos of the Chevy Corvair? (Regushee (talk) 18:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC))
Love your photos on WikipediaHere are two more shots:
It's a lovely car - I renamed the rear view and replaced it in the article. Cheers! Also, I would recommend not posting your digits or mail addresses here, you might end up with a lot of spam. Med bästa hälsningar, Mr.choppers | ✎ 05:21, 25 May 2012 (UTC) Here are some articles that REALLY need attentionSubaru merger maniaI just added a merge suggestion tag to the Impreza, the WRX and the STi, since the Impreza articles are in so much more dissarray than the Legacy, the Outback and the Baja.(Regushee (talk) 19:11, 25 May 2012 (UTC))
C3 PicassoWow! Nice additions =] I'll get straight to work! Thanks Choppers Jenova20 09:21, 29 May 2012 (UTC) I had to remove the section you added to the Aircross as Google Translate ([2]) shows that a news source quoted Citroen as saying they were going to increase production to 2000 units, and this isn't about the Aircross, it's about their general Latin America presence. Thanks though Jenova20 09:58, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
C3 Picasso Aircross
Mini VoteHey, I have proposed a vote for something to be agreed on once and for all regarding the Mini issues; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mini_%28marque%29#Vote Yellowxander (talk) 11:53, 3 June 2012 (UTC) No need to have a project article template and ranking on what is only a redirectThe reason for removing the "project" template from the Timor (car) page is because it is a redirect to the actual article. In other words, the project template and its quality and importance ranking belongs on the talk page of the actual article (with the correct name and appropriate section) about the automobile, and not on a redirect to that article. This is because a redirect page is not an article and does not need to be assessed, such as whether is has low or high importance. It is also not possible to "improve" the quality of a redirect page by adding more content! Attaching these project templates on a redirect page also messes up the summary project statistics. There is no need to list this redirect as an extra article that is then included the project summary table. Therefore, I have removed the notices so as to clean up the "talk" on the redirect page. Thanks! CZmarlin (talk ) 01:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
300BCI really like your photos of my SIATA 300BC. Thank you for sharing them on Wikipedia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.187.248 (talk) 00:30, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Please stop vandalizing Honda D engine.first off I have a D16A vtec in my car as we speak, and we dyno the motor after putting it in. als o I have contacted Honda of Japan and go the true specs on the engine, so my editing of the page is current and correct. You should do your research better before emailing someone that has done theirs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerimiah702 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
toyota stout and lite stoutas a owner of a 1962 RK45 toyopet stout and a 1976 RK101 toyota stout i find it sad that the most common version on the internet of the the stout is the RK43 lite stout. i do a google every day on toyota stout and have been to near every page there is on them and so much info is based off what is posted on wikipedia which is incorrect, no i am not savvy to the workings of wiki. the RK45 had very poor sales and only 1038 were made as there were no exact figure due to changes, this info was in Japanese and translated by google. in production of the RK45 there were a few that were left hand drive and MPH speed display, the RK100 was a bit more refined with extra headlights and a slightly larger 2R engine that was quickly replaced by the 3R. the lite stout had a few different versions that did not get put into production starting in 1962 as continuations models of the 40 series as lite stout prior to the release of the renamed 100 series "full" stout. in 1963 the lite stout was featured along side the stout in marketing and were still badged as toyopet, 1964 toyopet name was dropped for toyota as it was considered a more marketable name. with the name of toyota the lite stout was marked in north america as stout, mid 1964 the RK43 came into existence as the true export models over the RK40 and RK41. the 1964 apart from the front grille change the stouts cab had been extended 50mm two inches and the more powerful 3R and 3R-B engines were fitted to both the RK100 and RK43 lite stouts and both models were produced in the hino plant. due to the changing emission laws the engine was up graded in late 1967 to the 5R in the now RK101 and the 12R in the lite stout RK43, in some markets north america the RK43 was replaced with the next generation of the former hino/toyota briska aka hilux. my RK45 is one of the first 10 imported to australia, in my quest i have removed a 12R out of a 1976 lite stout RK43 and when i first started to research online of course wiki was as good as useless — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whysmee (talk • contribs) 05:16, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
the LJ50 suzukibefore i owned a toyota stout i had LJ suzuki 4X4's. i just love the F8A, i knew those motors backward and believe i could do anything to them blindfolded. the LJ50 550 engine has always interested me and when i was younger heard that they could be over sized to 800cc, bolt on a toyota SC12 or SC14 supercharger and fit in a ke10 corolla or lower go cart style a lj50 4x4. reality struck and i gave up on cars (i started to walk and ride a bicycle) til i eventually was given a 1974 RK101 years later, i had owned a 1969 toyota RU12 dyna that originally was used as a mail delivery truck on the nullabor so i knew what i was getting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullarbor_Plain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whysmee (talk • contribs) 08:38, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
XtremeFanaticHi. The above user has just come on my radar. I understand that you have had some dealings with them in the past. Having just had to waste some time undoing their junk edits on a number of car-related articles I just wanted to let you know that I would support taking them to ANI on grounds of lack of competence. There is enough work to do here already without having to waste valuable time clearing up after the terminally incompetent. Rangoon11 (talk) 15:06, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you |