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Re: Getting more involved

Sure! I would be more than happy to mentor you (I know there's a whole adoption thing at

WP:ADOPT if you want to try that route too - there's a backlog though - but because of our previous interactions, I'm open to doing that too, although I have admittedly little experience as an adopter). For some just starter resources, try this
. It's through WP:ADOPT, but contains some decent links about "Dealing with Conflict" (we're people, it always happens), some ideas about where to start, and where to ask questions (although you can always use my talkpage and I'll do my best to answer it or direct you to someone who can).

That said, I'll offer some of my own pointers. If you are looking to get involved in Wikipedia (WP) processes, such as

WP:AIV
, to offer various examples, the best way to get a better understanding of them is to "lurk", and then contribute when you feel ready. This shouldn't take too long, and remember that if you make a mistake it's okay. Other editors may blow up because you made a mistake, but remember that it's no big deal.

In terms of articles, find an area that you are interested and feel could use expansion on Wikipedia. Perhaps finding a Wikipedia:WikiProject based on an area might be helpful, and seeing through that what articles in that area need help.

Lastly, there are some helpful tools that can help you edit, although I would wait to use some of them until you're confident about using them (not that you can really make an irreversible screwup, but remember that you're responsible for any semi-automated edits that you make). I use

WP:POPUPS
to help me just check diffs quickly without clicking on them. Go to the preferences link on the top right of your screen and go to gadgets to find more interesting and possibly helpful tools.

If you have any more questions, feel free to let me know. If you get involved and want me to "check over" stuff you do, I will try to do that to the best of my ability (I'm not an expert in every area). Happy editing, SpencerT♦C 15:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

For notability of people,
Wikipedia:Bio#Entertainers that make a person "very likely to be notable" (not a catch-all, but a decent standard for assessing notability). In essence, whether or not the article gets deleted depends on the strength of the secondary sources, according to Wikipedia:Notability
, the general notability guidelines. I haven't done enough research looking for secondary sources so I'm not sure if the article should be deleted or not.
For citing sources, this link should give you plenty of information: Wikipedia:Citing sources. That said, if you go to the editing screen and look for the {{}} button in the middle (see here for an example, you can go to different citation templates (cite web, cite news, cite book, etc.), and then you can fill in information about the source once you click on those. If you also want, create a sandbox at User:Robvanvee/Sandbox to play with the feature or do more editing tests. SpencerT♦C 17:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
This should help: Help:How to move a page. Just move the page from your sandbox into the intended destination, which would be "De Villiers Graaff High School" for your sandbox article when you feel it is ready. SpencerT♦C 15:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Articles

Overall both articles look rather decent. However,

Wikipedia:Paraphrase#How_to_write_acceptable_content gives a good idea of how to integrate in content from other sources. As copyright violations, I've had to (temporarily) blank those sections, but I really encourage you to go back and go through it (using the "How to write acceptable content" link) to rewrite it, add it in so as to make sure it's not a copyright violation. In addition, if there are other chunks of text copied from elsewhere, they need to be removed and rewritten. The high school article seems pretty good (I wasn't able to check it for copyright-related stuff, but if there is information copied from elsewhere, it should be removed and rewritten, as above. Happy editing, SpencerT♦C
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Hey Robvanvee, any status on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Table Mountain cable car repair 1973? – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 05:00, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey Keraunoscopia. Thanks for your interest! What a battle! My old man says says he suspects the guy who took the photo and gave it to him has passed away. So given my lack of procedural knowledge, I'm stumped as to how I should further pursue this. It's a great photo with good E.V. but feels like a bit of a stalemate to me. Unless you have a good idea? Also, given it's current status, is it necessary to remove it from the page it's on? Cheers. Robvanvee 10:50, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
That's too bad. Unfortunately I think in this case the copyright belonged to the photographer (or if it was your dad's idea, probably a co-ownership of copyright), and if the photographer is passed away, then like Wingtipvortex mentions at the nomination, that copyright would've passed on to his surviving family. However, there are two more things I can think of that you may want to try, if you want to continue pursuing this. One is to go to Commons:Village pump/Copyright and explain everything you can. The other is to try to track down the original photographer's family. Either way will use up resources and time on your part. As for keeping it on the article, maybe it should be removed since several weeks have gone by and the image is not cleared for use. This would be fair to the copyright holders. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 16:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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