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I would source the proposed highways. Also- I've never heard of I-605 (WA), and I've traveled through that area. Some of the images may need to be removed, but another user will take care of it. --Rschen7754 (T C) 01:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering, when you view that article from your computer, does it take a bit too long to load the page? I asked because it takes too long to load on my computer. It's only happened recently; maybe because I added so much information to the list that the article size got too big -- near 100 kilobytes. Artisol2345 01:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

It does take a while to load. --Rschen7754 (T C) 01:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hi! I transferred more information of the exit list into the table of the article Interstate 90 in Wyoming, but I was wondering if you want to be taking care of the exit list, or if you want me to do it. Artisol2345 03:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead and do it, as I have a lot to do, and I got bored of it :) --Rschen7754 (T C) 04:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You said, We greatly appreciate the contributions that you have made to WP:INSH. However, it would be greatly be appreciated if you could improve the current IN road articles before you create new ones. You may want to check out

However, this makes more work for someone who has to go back and get it up to a start or better. Check out

WP:USRD/A/QS: 73% of US road articles are stubs. Let's fix the ones that we have before making new ones. --Rschen7754 (T C

) 01:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I've contributed over 400 edits to the Indiana state roads project; the vast majority of them expanded and/or improved existing articles, including the addition of infoboxes to over 50 of them. I've now finished filling in the gaps that I found in the 1-99 and 100-199 ranges; and if I find other missing articles down the line, I will go ahead and create them, since they need to be there to improve the chain overall. Wikipedia:Red link also calls for them to be created. As for the idea that this somehow "makes more work", this is the way that Wikipedia articles evolve: they are created, then usually need to be expanded, by the creator or by others. In any case, I don't see anyone else doing much with the Indiana state roads articles recently. I'm here, and I'm helping. Omnedon 18:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I created the page Interstate 90 in Minnesota and transferred the information of the exit list over to that article. Anyways, how do you reverse the order of the exit list (they're backwards!)? Do you use a bot, or did you manually edit the exit list? Artisol2345 (not Aristotle) [talk to me or follow me] 22:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Probably the best way to do this is to paste the list into excel and hit the ascending sort button. You'll have to do exits 0-9, 10-99, and 100-whatever in separate runs or they won't sort propoerly. (It's a pain, I know.) --Rschen7754 (T C) 22:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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You're now the only one opining delete; can you please look at the new shrunken template and see if it's still a problem? Thank you. --NE2 21:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I know my move was controversial, and I apologize, but your "knee-jerk reaction" is not helping either. Please stop and discuss. --NE2 23:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Please discuss stuff on the wiki, and slow down. There is no need to revert immediately; that's how

Wikipedia:revert wars happen. --NE2

23:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a reversion with a split-off, which doesn't make sense. If there was a lack of people maintaining one portal, why would two be any better? --NE2 23:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

For now, let's discuss, and wait a few days before finishing anything in either direction. I've invited members of WikiProject Portals to contribute. --NE2 23:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I see it as worse than one portal, since it splits up work. Will you agree not to do any more for now? I'll agree not to edit war in the other direction. --NE2 23:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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Why did you delete my page? I didn't violate copyright, take information from other sites, or anything else like that. castlevaniamaster1 12:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

This subject is not notable. See Wikipedia:Notability. --Rschen7754 (T C) 22:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I've recreated the Göran Edman that you deleted a while ago. I don't see any problems with his notability, but if you still disagree, let me know. Best wishes/ Pax:Vobiscum 14:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

What is dbG-11 or whatever the reason for deleting the article for. please advise and tell me how to correct this?

Your article was declared to be Wikipedia:Spam. You cannot correct this. --Rschen7754 (T C) 00:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering about the deletion of the entry on the law firm of Crowell & Moring. It was initially marked as an advertisement, then re-written by another user to be as neutral as possible, giving only facts and not touting anything in the manner of an advertisement. The article was subsequently deleted. Perhaps the fact that the initial entry and contribution came internally from Crowell & Moring raised a flag with you. However, it is our belief that a Wikipedia article for our firm would be inevitable and our intention is for the article on the firm to be factual, non-biased and developed over a period of time in a way which would increase it's contribution to the entire Wikipedia system.

The firm is already mentioned in the entry of Pan Am Flight 73 [3], and it would only make sense to afford users the opportunity to discover more info about it through Wikipedia.

Also, I've reviewed the entries of many other law firms, and if anything, many of those are written like brochures for their respective firms.

As an alternative to the deletion of the entire entry, would it be possible to further suggest how the article can be edited to be even more neutral?

Thank you much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.54.166.42 (talk) 18:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, here's my signature.

Crowell.moring 18:33, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

You are not allowed to write about your own business per

WP:COI. --Rschen7754 (T C

) 22:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

That's not entirely true. Wikipedia:Conflict of interest states that "Editors who may have a conflict of interest are not barred from participating in articles and discussion of articles where they have a conflict of interest, but must be careful when editing in mainspace." That doesn't mean that there aren't issues regarding notability and POV, but COI-editing is allowed when done "with appropriate care and discussion". Best wishes/ Pax:Vobiscum 16:15, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

So, what would be the verdict here? Seems like Wiki system of editors and contributors would provide adequate checks and balances on potential "conflict of interest" entries. Can we at least reinstate the Crowell & Moring entry so that it may have the opportunity to receive unbiased contributions from outsiders? Thank you.

66.54.166.42 18:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC) Sorry again, signed in signature: Crowell.moring 18:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Please go to

WP:COIN to deal with this issue. As I interpreted the policy, you are not allowed to write about your own business. --Rschen7754 (T C

) 22:23, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, would this be acceptable to you: User:Pax:Vobiscum/Crowell & Moring? Best wishes/ Pax:Vobiscum 18:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

If it is notable. --Rschen7754 (T C) 22:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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The above IP address is used by me. Anyways, I have another thing to say to you based on your revision:

Obviously you have not searched any map source. Any reliable source will clearly indicate to you that Interstate 94 does make a junction with Interstate 29 in North Dakota. Plus, I am aware that Interstate 94 has two junctions with Interstate 69 in Michigan (however, I am too lazy to add it at the moment). Next time you undo my revisions and then come talk to me about something that is confusing to you, I suggest you use Mapquest maps, or possibly Google maps, too. Thanks.

02:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You also said this on my IP talk page:

Well, we only list the junctions with the main Interstate Highways. We don't include auxiliary junctions like Interstate 229 in North Dakota, or something like that. Yes, I understand that the list is big enough already, however that should not be the main concern. Our goal is to list all the main junctions of the Interstate, especially all the junctions with the main Interstate Highways. And as you, the creator of the U.S. Interstate Highways Wikiproject, you should know that too. Yes, I can make foolish edits at times on accident, but every Wikipedian does. (That includes you, too.)

Also, when you wanted to "draw the line somewhere", it would be much clearer to me if you actually show to everyone what you are trying to convey. Anyways, you're an awesome Wikipedian for the Interstates. Keep up the great work!

03:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Which page deals with shield problem? This is what you post;I couldnt remeber because has been a while. Freewayguy--Let me know what's up? 01:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to remember. --NE2 21:10, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

But how will that really affect the rest of the world? I understand this is a major road linking California to Canada and Mexico, but I don't see how it could result in major international problems. In my opinion, it would be appropriate for Portal:United States. Nishkid64 (talk) 00:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

On second thought, it might be appropriate. If you could assert why it has international significance in the ITN hook, I'd be fine with that. Nishkid64 (talk) 00:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

How did this fire "[disrupt] international transportation and the economy"? That sounds like hyperbole to me and the article does not support that. -- tariqabjotu 01:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Eh, it's only the second largest city in the U.S. and a major transportation link between Canada and Mexico. It is not easily bypassed since there are two major routes out of LA to the north, and the fire closed one. The other departs I-5 right at the site of the fire (not brilliant on the part of

Caltrans, I know. --Rschen7754 (T C

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Can you be a bit more specific? I don't quite understand what needs to be done here. Thanks! Brianreading 05:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Disregard this question, I noticed that you left some more specific info in the edit History. Thanks. Brianreading 05:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you failed the GA review for "Singapore Stone" on the basis of there being weasel words in the article. Could you please identify them at "Talk:Singapore Stone"? Thanks. Cheers, Jacklee 13:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I have started a new discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways#"Decommissioned". Can we please discuss this calmly? --NE2 23:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

My fifteen words are a lot clearer that your one word. Please stop. --NE2 20:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I may have missed it in my quick scan, but where in

Apparently it didn't make it into standards... but it should be - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_U.S._Roads/Archive_4#3dis_and_browse_boxes --Rschen7754 (T C) 18:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any consensus there... --NE2 18:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, I'll bring it up on

WT:USRD/INNA to see if there is consensus to always put them at the bottom. --NE2

18:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

This has already been discussed and determined, I'll look through the archives again- also, this is only two state routes where the infoboxes go to the bottom. --Rschen7754 (T C) 18:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you add set me back as active for WP:USRD participation status? I'm back after a while, as I had school and stuff. Notify me back at User talk:Geopgeop#U.S. Roads Inactivity notification. --Geopgeop (T) 00:57, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! --Geopgeop (T) 01:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey Rschen, this is not about Wikipedia, but I heard that you are affected by the wildfires as well. I'm from Orange County, California, so I guess all our schools and colleges in southern California are closed. For me, I just got a message saying that our schools in the Capistrano Unified School District are closed for tomorrow (Thursday, October 25, 2007). Other than Wikipedia, what do you normally do to pass your time during the day now that you have to stay at home? (And for me, that's boring!) Well, it's for a good cause because we were in school for three consecutive days, breathing dirty, smoky, air.

Anyways, that was just a comment since we probably don't live far away from each other and we are suffering from the same incident. :) If you find this comment unneccessary and not Wikipedia-related, please remove it. I rarely make comments like this on Wikipedia. Bye for now!

02:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I've been catching up on personal projects and monitoring the fires. All SD county schools are closed for the rest of the week. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I initiated the eClerx article which you put up for speedy deletion. Upon going through the cited guidelines I do not think you should have done that: I merely seeded the article and was going to expand on it. While I appreciate your diligence and contribution (it is people like you who make Wikipedia so great) please check the Talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Eclerx) and tell me if it makes sense. If you like you can have the reasoning questioned by users who have a bigger exposure to finance/derivatives/data analytics. Nshuks7 08:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Why did you delete the C&T article, it involves historical context of chemical testing since the 1800's. This is complete BS whats the deal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikieditor12345 (talk • contribs) 07:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you read the message at the top? --Rschen7754 (T C) 16:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I saw that you deleted the article I created for JobTraQ. I understand that Wikipedia is not intended to include advertisements, but the "project management" section has a list of programs that people can refer to if they are looking for software like this. Can you give me some insight about what I did wrong in the JobTraQ article that makes it inappropriate? There are a lot of similar articles in the

"The following is a list of notable project management software applications." --Rschen7754 (T C) 17:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm being dense, but I don't understand. Are you saying that the list should only include well-known applications? If that's the case, then about 3/4 of the programs in the list should be removed. Joshyeager 18:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Specifically, notable applications. Even if yours was notable, you wrote it like promotional material. --Rschen7754 (T C) 18:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. Thanks. Joshyeager 18:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, do you know any administrator who could delete this page? (User:Artisol2345/Sandbox header template) I renamed it a little bit, so I now rather find this page useless. Where can we go and request for a deletion of an unnecessary user page?

21:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Done. In the future, you use {{db-g7}} on that page, and an admin will delete it. --Rschen7754 (T C) 21:20, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm following what you are suggesting, but if a speedy deletion is supposed to be speedy, would it really take at least three hours for a page such as this one for anyone to notice it?

-- Artisol2345

00:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

It might; lately it's been backlogged for some reason. --Rschen7754 (T C) 00:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Any plans to renominate

I ask because I was using http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/reports/routefinder/table1.cfm as a ref for a

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I might eventually... --Rschen7754 (T C) 00:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. You recently tagged Hawaii Route 200 as needing attention. If you can provide an explanation on the talk page, I may be able to help. —Viriditas | Talk 08:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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I am back for a vacation. I would like to rejoin this wikiproject [Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Participants]. Could you re-add me?

You can go ahead and re-add yourself to the list. --Rschen7754 (T C) 17:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that two articles you have failed for GA status have been sent back to GAN from GAR because the only basis for your decision appears to have been the presence of a tag. Clearly you are an experienced editor - if failing articles for GA based on the presence of a tag is standard, perhaps you could explain that more clearly in your review posts so that editors know to fix the tag and return to GAN rather than go through GAR.

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The eClerx page has been deleted once again. This time by someone who was not even in the discussion. I want to know why or how this is happening. It is harrowing to find carefully measured words being deleted every few days. Having to start over again is no fun either. Can anyone just drop by and arbitrarily delete pages?Nshuks7 07:31, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes-

WP:CSD. If your page keeps being speedied then take the hint: what you are writing about is not notable. --Rschen7754 (T C

) 22:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Could you please tell me how Tides Foundation is notable and not RSF Social Finance? If you checked the article talk, you'll see my reason for posting a page on RSF Social Finance. I went and checked other similar organizations and found them on Wikipedia and I am simply formatting and adding even more notable information than other organizations. Social Finance is a new topic. Your feedback re: eClerx above was not very helpful. If you look at the topic on Rudolf Steiner, you'll see that there are many contributions. RSF Social Finance demonstrates how finance can be inspired by the work of Rudolf Steiner (RSF stands for Rudolf Steiner Foundation). So I feel, and surely a lot in the social finance space, the RSF Social Finance page is relevant. Yfbond 01:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you link to the page? --Rschen7754 (T C) 01:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. The RSF Social Finance is gone from Wikipedia. The only reference at the moment is an external link on the vast Rudolf Steiner page under the section "Practical Activities." I don't know when it was originally added but I changed to RSF Social Finance because the name of the organization has changed. That URL links to the RSF homepage. Rudolf Steiner lectured on the topic of associated economics but his work on finance is not widely known as his works on biodynamic farming, Waldorf education, etc. Did I answer your question? I am very new to Wikipedia. The Tides Foundation page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tides_Foundation. The page I'm trying to create is modeled after this entry. Yfbond 02:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

What was the article called? Give the exact name in wikilink format. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

It should be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsf_social_finance but you deleted it so it's gone. Can you see it? Yfbond 02:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The topic is not notable. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Is the Tides Foundation notable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tides_Foundation ? Why? If the Tides Foundation is notable and I create an entry just like it, then logically, the entry I create is notable. Yfbond 02:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

No, and it has been deleted. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

What about Kiva.org and Calvert Foundation? Yfbond 02:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Only the former because it has been given substantial media coverage. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I would like to say thanks for the revert, but thank you in a sarcastic manner for successfully deleting these talk pages and these are

Apologies. If any other pages need to be restored, please let me know. --Rschen7754 (T C) 03:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the restoration. Willirennen 03:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Not only is {{Roads in Maryland WikiProject}} more consistent with many other wikiproject banners (which use the name of the project itself as the template name, rather than the name of another project with a parameter thrown in), but if we want to add something to our project's banner that is specific to our project, we can. I just don't see the rationale in not allowing individual projects to have their own banners, participants lists, etc.-Jeff ^(talk) 02:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

You put the deletion tags on Template:SoCalFwy, so when will the template be completely delete? in 3 days, because some wikimedia programs such as wikinews delete files or articles after 2 days automatically. --Freewayguy--Comm 90 00:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

When the TFD is closed. --Rschen7754 (T C) 00:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand what this means when TFD is closed? because many people thinks it should be delete-I do too. --Freewayguy--Comm 90 00:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:SoCalFwy. Come on man, think about it for a bit. --Rschen7754 (T C

) 00:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, this is SpaceJunkie... I was going to help with the Minnesota State Highways Project for awhile and then disappeared. I thought maybe I could help out again. (I got the idea after fixing a few articles on bridges in my area). I'm working adding some info to the Highway 24 page right now. SpaceJunkie 05:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I just added a "Miscellanea" section for Highway 24, which I hope is alright. I'm not sure if I referenced my main source right -- it's kind of tricky as it's a web page with multiple sections/articles on it. Oh yeah, I also removed Stearns County from the list of counties, as TH-24 gets within a half mile or so to the Stearns county border at Clearwater, but it never enters it. SpaceJunkie 06:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

You can go ahead and re-enter your name at

WP:USRD/P --Rschen7754 (T C

) 17:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, cool. I just updated Highway 23, I wanted to clean up the sentence about expressway segments, and I added some extra history on the Willmar Bypass which I thought was interesting. I hope my couple edits these past few days for 23 & 24 are what is being looked for. SpaceJunkie 06:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I need some help... this weekend I was thinking about adding "Major Intersection" tables to the highways I'm most familiar with, 15, 23 & 371, I was wondering how to do the mileage? I found the Trunk Highway Log Point site on the Mn/DOT page: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/roadway/data/reports/thlogpoint.html, do I give the exact mileage for the intersections, or do I round or truncate the numbers? Also, I ran into a problem looking at the log for Highway 23... it shows the south ramps with I-90 as being mile 1.238, when I-90 is supposed to be the western terminus for Highway 23, and it doesn't say anything about what mile 0 is supposed to be. (from looking at a map, it looks like mile 0 might refer to Rock CSAH 4, which could be the old route of US-16 before I-90 was built seeing how it parallels I-90, thus, it would probably have been the old terminus of TH-23), so would I just subtract so the south ramps of I-90 are mile zero or use what is given? SpaceJunkie 05:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I would use exactly what is in the logs, shifted and exact mileage and all. However, a similar discussion is going on at

WT:ELG regarding CA, which uses an unusual system. --Rschen7754 (T C

) 05:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I forgot to add, if I need to use a County/CSAH shield, should I make one up myself? If so, do I just use any image editing program? And does the text have to be located in an exact spot or just somewhere in the middle? SpaceJunkie 05:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

See

WP:USRD/S for this; I don't know much about shields. --Rschen7754 (T C

) 05:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I got a Major Intersections table mostly done for Highway 15... I was wondering for the state highway abbreviations, do I use MN-xx or TH-xx, and for county roads/county state aid highways do I use CSAH or CR? Also, for the info field, I used mplex for all the intersections while Highway 15 is part of a multiplex -- is that what is supposed to be done, or does that only occur at the beginning and ends of the multiplexes?

One more thing, I'm planning on doing a major intersections table for MN-371 next but I can't find any MN-371 Business shields, Are we supposed to have one made or not, since MN-371 Business is part of the state highway system? SpaceJunkie 04:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Use TH. Not sure about the county roads... I'm not familiar enough with mplex to know if it should be used or not. I believe we use banners for the MN-371, but ask the Shields task force about this. --Rschen7754 (T C) 04:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I have a couple major intersection tables on my sandbox for Highway 15 and 371 so they can be checked out first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SpaceJunkie/Sandbox I included all the intersections with other state, U.S. & interstate highways and interchanges with other roads. For highway 371 there was a pretty long gap between Highways 210 and Highway 84 so I added in a few intersections with what appeared to be the main County Roads in the area. Also,I got from another state highways wiki site that mplex is used for the beginning and end of a highway duplex, it looks like that shades the fields blue.

Highway 15 has a two block long duplex with Highway 23 in St. Cloud, I was wondering if the detail I gave was fine, or if I didn't need to be specific. If you look at a map (http://www.dot.state.mn.us/statemap/pdf/cities/Saint_Cloud.pdf) Highway 23 turns into CSAH 75 opposite Highway 15 in both directions: to stay on Highway 23 requires going on Highway 15 for a couple blocks

If the tables are fine, I can put them up to the sites, or you can let me know if I have to redo anything. SpaceJunkie 04:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Not sure why the junctions are listed in bold. Also, in the last column, not sure why new phrases after a semicolon are capitalized. --Rschen7754 (T C) 04:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I fixed it up now, hopefully - except I realized I'm not sure if I capitalize the directions or not (e.g. TH 60 East) SpaceJunkie 05:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Check ELG on that one, I'm not positive... --Rschen7754 (T C) 05:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright I got it figured out, It looks like I should use lowercase and not have the direction as part of the link. Otherwise is the list good enough to go on the page? I think all my discussions with you is making your talk page really long. SpaceJunkie 05:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK, yes. --Rschen7754 (T C) 05:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I put it up tomorrow, as I'll have to cite my reference and probably want to double check it again in the meantime. Otherwise, I'll probably do a Major Intersections table for MN-23 sometime later, Thanks! SpaceJunkie 05:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

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Isn't the 91 the fwy junction. They can be list on rte infobox because the 110 is shorter and there is not many highways intersecting it. Then why on the 710 the 91 and 60 can be mention on infobox?What's the diffrence?--Freewayguy--Comm 90 02:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

91 is a freeway jct, but 1 should not be listed. Just because you are allowed to mention 7-10 junctions in the infobox doesn't mean you always should. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:33, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Can you please reply? It's frankly ridiculous to claim that adding mileage is original research, but I'd like to see your reasoning. --NE2 03:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

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The table is showing up in the middle of the "1917 law" section. I'll add the correct code to fix it. --NE2 05:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Since you live in California and I don't, I'm asking you for a big favor; feel free to decline or suggest somebody else who might be able to help. I've been compiling

Wow... never mind. Scans are available at [4]. --NE2 16:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

You wrote: Does this mean that we can block one of those IPs on sight?

It doesn't hurt to ask the admins. He certainly has a history, and linking to my subpage can support your petition for a block. dhett ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:35, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I am an administrator... does this make a difference? --Rschen7754 (T C) 19:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I listed them based on what's in the F&E System code, not the route description code. --NE2 13:46, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you, I've accepted your nomination. —Scott5114↗ 01:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for your nomination. Unfortunately, I have withdrawn the nom early at 17/13/3. I am presently going to undergo admin coaching in preparation for a second candidacy somewhere down the line. I hope to see your continued support in the future. Regards, —Scott5114↗ 07:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your questions. I have however decided to withdraw my nomination as I do not think I am ready. Thank you however for taking the time to ask me a questions. Regards,