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You will need to get consensus before replacing "side effect" with "adverse effect". Both are fine per MEDMOS. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:04, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
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Which ref supports this.[1] Best
For pyogenic spondylodiscitis due to staphylococcus aureus: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22655482
For bacteremia due to staphylococcus aureus: Russell, Clark D., Aaron Lawson McLean, Christopher Saunders, and Ian F. Laurenson. "Adjunctive rifampicin may improve outcomes in Staphylococcus aureus bacteraemia: a systematic review." Journal of medical microbiology 63, no. 6 (2014): 841-848. Note, however, that the ARREST trial calls this in to question Here is link to ARREST article and accompanying editorial: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067361732456X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673617332944
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Formatting of references
You have been around a long time yet continue not to format references similar to the rest of the articles you edit.
Can you please follow
]Is this you?
If this is you [2] then you should declare it as a COI. Thanks. Guy (Help!) 10:32, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- And this[3] JFW | T@lk 08:48, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- I disclose all my publications here: http://www.medicine.northwestern.edu/faculty/profile.html?xid=15577
- My funding has been through the NIH, NSF, American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, and some smaller foundations, including the Post-Finasteride Syndrome Foundation. This is disclosed in my published articles, as above.
- I do not publish on wikipedia using any other name, and I have never hidden (and have acknowledged) that I am an academic physician-scientist.
- I have no other COI of which I am aware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbelknap (talk • contribs) 17:21, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
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I wondered if you might be willing to review and revise
The creator and main contributor appears to be a real world expert, who more or less generated a literature review here in WP, with lots of synthesis and writing their own thoughts with citations stuck behind them. Not summarizing sources. That's what is there.
The key thing missing, is description of the extent to which this concept has been and is actually used -- or not used -- in regulatory approvals, generating clinical guidelines and literature reviews, reporting clinical trials, and the like. The reader is left not knowing if this is something some people advocate for, is central to all assessment of interventions, or somewhere in the middle. And no sense of whether the use or non-use has changed over time.
This topic seems very much in your alley, and could use Wikipedian expert improvement... Jytdog (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
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January 2019
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Jim Edgar. Stop trying to cram this into the lead. It was a BLP violation when you restored it the first time, and couching it in terms of the "Edgar Ramp" instead of directly pointing the finger at Edgar is undue. If many people blame him then provide reliable sources that prove that. We discuss the ramp in the article and the fact that it was named for him because he was Governor at the time. That does not warrant putting it in the lead. The article is about the person, not the ramp, and your edit seemed to be implying that he was to blame. Meters (talk) 23:03, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
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Can you please format this using "cite book"[4]
All you need is the ISBN plus page number. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Copyright problem
Here[5] text was copied from here[6].
This material was produced by "Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation" who own the copyright on it. It is not produced by staff of the US federal government. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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Prions
Hi, I know you are skeptical of the Prion theory, so am I. I found this article and thought you would be interested: there is a growing paradigm that the prion alone, even "co-factor prions" cannot explaine TSEs, especially the different strains. It is now thought by a growing number of scientists that a virus or bacterium encodes the different strains. https://www.dentistrytoday.com/news/todays-dental-news/item/3013-protect-your-patients-and-practice-from-prions-viruses-and-systemic-diseaseSpidersMilk, Drink Spider Milk, it tastes good. (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Seriously
1) You know to use high quality secondary sources
2) You have been around long enough to know how to format your own sources.
Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:45, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Capital letters
Only the first word of a heading should generally have a capital letter. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
SPLC Reliability
In your reversion of my reversion of your edit to David Horowitz, you claimed that "The SPLC is now considered an unreliable source." I must have missed this memo. Can you point me to where this decision was made?--Masque (talk) 12:51, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Personal Attack
It's unclear who you were targeting with this edit summary but it is an unacceptable personal attack - you should withdraw and apologise -----Snowded TALK 07:48, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- A reasonable person might consider a "personal attack" to be "personal" (directed at a particular person) and an "attack" (doing violence to that person). There was nothing "personal" and there was no attack, so…? Stay well. Sbelknap (talk) 13:01, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Any reasonable person would see you as making a general accusation against editors who have reverted you. You are heading for an ANI report if you do it again and you should apologise and/or make it clear that the accusation did not apply to the two editors involved. Unless of course you can justify it with specific evidence. Checking your history your attention hass alresdy been drawn to ]
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Ok you have started up with the innuendo again; implying that your idiosyncratic edits are a result of some long term plan to avoid recognizing Heiddegger's Nazi past. You have refused to comply with a request to evidence that accusation or delete it. Your whole attitude on the talk page is to tell other editors they are wrong and not engage with them. Checking your history, your previous topic ban was based on concerns about obsessive editing coupled innuendo and personal attacks so you have history here. If it doesn't stop now then I am going to raise the question at ANI with a reference to the previous ban. You are raising a serious question as to whether or not you can engage with other editors in accordance with Wikipedia conventions on any controversial issue which raises a question or two about your continued participation in the project. I thought we had an agreement that you would raise any issues about the main body of the article and we would then look again at the lede. Instead, you are plunging straight into the attempt to attach a qualification about the Nazi qualification to any statement. I'd seriously suggest you find a mentor if you can't see the issue here. -----Snowded TALK 07:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Your threats to refer me to an ANI seem out-of-bounds, as per WP:PA. You make many assertions, none of which are accurate. Please stay off my talk page. Sbelknap (talk) 16:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- OK I'll confine myself to formal notices if they become necessary -----Snowded TALK 16:38, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
May 2019
Your recent editing history at Martin Heidegger shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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- I think you should adopt the attitude of seeking consensus on the talk page first given the number of reverts you are getting. If not then accept a 1RR restriction at least. Slow edit wars are still edit wars in WIkipedia -----Snowded TALK 09:05, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
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]- According to WP:CANVAS "In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it be done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus." This is precisely what was done. Again, please stay off my talk page. Sbelknap (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)]
- That was a policy notice Sbelknap, I don't want you saying you were not warned. If you had contacted everyone who edited the page or put a notice on a discussion forum that would have been OK. But you selected who you invited. Please read and attend to the policies cited. But it's your call, I'll stay away unless next time it needs to be an ANI reference -----Snowded TALK 17:02, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- I have reviewed the canvassing policy. It seems crystal clear to me that my actions are entirely consistent with that policy. Frankly, I feel that you are harassing me. Please stop. Sbelknap (talk) 17:10, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- OK to be very very clear, You have edit warred, you have persisted in trying to get material inserted with all other editors in disagreement you have indulged in NPOV taging when you can't get support on the talk page. You have also canvassed. If this carries on I am going to put together a summary of this and request a topic ban at ANI. I really don't want to do that but you need to accept the position of other editors on the talk page. -----Snowded TALK 16:59, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- I note that you make many assertions about violations of wikipedia policy that are false. I have not edit warred, canvassed, or drive-by tagged by any reasonable definition of these term. I have made many high-quality edits to wikipedia, including a few on the Martin Heidegger page. I respectfully ask again that you keep off my page. Sbelknap (talk) 17:07, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- I have reviewed the canvassing policy. It seems crystal clear to me that my actions are entirely consistent with that policy. Frankly, I feel that you are harassing me. Please stop. Sbelknap (talk) 17:10, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- That was a policy notice Sbelknap, I don't want you saying you were not warned. If you had contacted everyone who edited the page or put a notice on a discussion forum that would have been OK. But you selected who you invited. Please read and attend to the policies cited. But it's your call, I'll stay away unless next time it needs to be an ANI reference -----Snowded TALK 17:02, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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Aside from the ongoing personal attacks, you are now making changes previously rejected on the talk page and/or which you know are controversial. This type of behavior has got you into trouble before. Please learn to work with other editors or you heading for a topic ban -----Snowded TALK 16:02, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- I have made no personal attacks. My edits are good faith attempts to improve the article. I respectfully suggest that instead of making threats, you engage in the discussion on the talk page, where I have opened a subsection on the matter of improving the Martin Heidegger lede. I am engaged with other editors in the discussion on that talk page. Some editors agree with me and disagree with you. Sbelknap (talk) 16:09, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Edit-warring against consensus
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- I've provided explanation for my edits on the talk page. When it is clear that there is a POV problem in a wikipedia article, particularly a BLP, then we are obligated to fix these errors, with appropriate explanation on the talk page. That's what I did. wikipedia is not a place for you to provide your original research. Please rely on high-quality secondary sources, when these are available.Sbelknap (talk) 07:42, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter that you've "provided explanation" - you don't have consensus to make these changes to reliably-sourced material, and multiple editors have explained to you why your proposed changes are unacceptable. You can't simply force through changes to reliably-sourced content unilaterally - that's not how Wikipedia works. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 07:46, 28 December 2019 (UTC)]
- It doesn't matter that you've "provided explanation" - you don't have
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Formatting references
You have been around a long time. You have been requested to format references similar to how they are in the rest of the article. That you continue to use bar urls is disrespectful to the rest of us.[8] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:58, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- If you look at my edits, you will find that I *do* format my edits as they are in the rest of the article. Do you have a specific example where I've not done that? Sbelknap (talk) 21:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yes this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chlortalidone&type=revision&diff=947805914&oldid=947676790&diffmode=source Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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- My edits consisted of adding a subheading and adding a single indisputable statement. What is going on here? Sbelknap (talk) 00:24, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Your idea of an "indisputable" statement is way off. This is just your opinion. Please see the talk page where I provided evidence that the Russian interference was not a hoax - and in fact has been reaffirmed by reliable, nonpartisan investigations. Don't add this again unless you can work out an acceptable, consensus wording on the talk page.. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:08, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- My edits consisted of adding a subheading and adding a single indisputable statement. What is going on here? Sbelknap (talk) 00:24, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Link clutter
Hello. Talk pages are not articles, so external links do not work the same there. Ref tags will spill-over into other sections, and can make archives messy if templates are not added. Unless there is formatting that needs to be preserved, it's almost always easier to use direct links in brackets,[9] or as hotlinks on talk pages. Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 05:14, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. I thought that was not permitted. I'll do that in the future. Sbelknap (talk) 05:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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Honeywell Quantum Computer Edits
Hi Sbelknap, I noticed you added a few lines to the Honeywell article in March. Thank you for your additions. I was doing some further reading into the story and noticed a small addition we could improve the article with. Honeywell's quantum computer may not be the largest, but will be the most powerful in the world. Would you be open to changing the word "largest" to "most powerful" in the last sentence of section 2015-Present?--Chefmikesf (talk) 03:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, go ahead. Make sure to cite the source. Thanks. Sbelknap (talk) 12:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sbelknap I do have a COI with Honeywell so I will refrain from making the edit myself. Do you mind making the update? the Techcrunch article you provided uses the word powerful.--Chefmikesf (talk) 23:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Kentucky coffeetree
Just to avoid a pointless argument over at the actual article: I never said nor meant that you were wrong. I saw an unreferenced assertion (and also incorrect word order, should really be "mammalian megafauna"). Clearly the statement was correct, and you had a reference, I just didn't know about it.
Not sure where you saw "original research" in my comment, but no offense intended. IAmNitpicking (talk) 14:57, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Sally Hemmings and Larry Sanger
I saw your comments at User:MelanieN. I contributed one hundred or so articles to the Citizendium, a decade or so ago. I interacted with Sanger, a number of times, and found him pretty reasonable. In particular, I found him willing to consider the possibility that he might be wrong, and his correspondent right. It is a quality I'd like to be able to count on here.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 09:34, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Re [10] this: I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you of anything. You have demonstrated
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- The reliable source is in the main body of the article. Before deleting something in the lead, please read the relevant part of the main article. Thanks. Sbelknap (talk) 20:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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- In recent literature, the term "Hyperaldosteronism" has been deprecated in favor of "Aldosteronism". I attempted to move the Hyperaldosteronism to the Aldosteronism article, with the intention of setting a #redirect from Hyperaldosteronism to Aldosteronism. I've moved other pages successfully, and these moves were correct and accepted by other knowledgeable editors. If you want to help with my effort (assuming you agree) then please help to get this done. I will endeavor to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding what appears to be your unduly harsh comment. Stay well.Sbelknap (talk) 19:54, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- You blanked the article. End of story. The Banner talk 20:25, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- I removed the redirect in "aldosteronism" in preparation to move the hyperaldosteronism article to the currently accepted name. I was unable to move the article for some reason that I don't understand. If you would be so kind as to assist with this effort, that would be great.Sbelknap (talk) 20:27, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- So you admit that you blanked the page. Wikipedia:Page blanking. The Banner talk 20:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- And to help you: Wikipedia:Requested moves. The Banner talk 20:52, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- As I mentioned, I have successfully moved pages on other occasions. Something went wrong this time. Frankly, your messages here don't seem productive to me. I'd appreciate it if you would stay off my talk page. Stay well. Sbelknap (talk) 03:57, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- I only show up here when necessary, and my earlier interactions were necessary due to your disruptive editing. The Banner talk 09:51, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- As I mentioned, I have successfully moved pages on other occasions. Something went wrong this time. Frankly, your messages here don't seem productive to me. I'd appreciate it if you would stay off my talk page. Stay well. Sbelknap (talk) 03:57, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- And to help you: Wikipedia:Requested moves. The Banner talk 20:52, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- So you admit that you blanked the page. Wikipedia:Page blanking. The Banner talk 20:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- I removed the redirect in "aldosteronism" in preparation to move the hyperaldosteronism article to the currently accepted name. I was unable to move the article for some reason that I don't understand. If you would be so kind as to assist with this effort, that would be great.Sbelknap (talk) 20:27, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- You blanked the article. End of story. The Banner talk 20:25, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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- I was pranked by an acquaintance when I turned away from my computer. This was my fault, as I could have prevented this by signing out when I turned away. I apologize for the vandalism. sbelknap (talk) 18:57, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Classic, but alas: Wikipedia:My little brother did it The Banner talk 19:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- User:The Banner, I don't find your comments to be productive. I've asked you to stay off my talk page. sbelknap (talk) 19:53, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Classic, but alas: Wikipedia:My little brother did it The Banner talk 19:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Curtis Yarvin. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Off-site you are a carnivore diet advocate, and you have written 1000s of crazy posts almost daily attacking plant-based diets and vegans on Twitter and promoting dangerous views about meat. There is clearly conflict of interest with your edits on red meat. Please see below.
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:35, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- I have no COI. I consider your wild accusations and numerous inaccurate statements about me to be harassment. Please stay off my user page. I consider further contact from you to be unwelcome. sbelknap (talk) 00:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Please take more care when editing
I kindly ask you to take more care when editing. In you latest edits it happende two times that you put next text in front of references, which made it seem that these references back up the text you added. Also, please take some time to find the right place in the article. You tend to bomb paragraphs by adding your sources smack at the top even if there are much better suited places in the article. CarlFromVienna (talk) 09:19, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Carnivore diet advocacy
On Twitter you posted:
- "Plant-based foods are unnecessary for human health. Eat fatty meat, offal, eggs, cheese. That is what a healthy diet looks like. Plants are candy."
- "Plant-based foods are unnecessary candy. All of them. There is no strong research result supporting the assertion that plant-based foods are necessary for human health during pregnancy, infancy, childhood, adulthood, or old age"
- "Type 2 diabetics who eat a plant-based diet experience improvement or complete reversal of their diabetes when they convert to high-fat carnivore diet."
- "Eating plant-based foods increases the risk of scurvy. Carnivory is healthier than veganism. Plants are unnecessary for health."
What evidence do you have for any of these claims? 90.241.67.238 (talk) 15:05, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Let's focus on wikipedia content, mysterious stranger. sbelknap (talk) 16:33, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
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• There is a lot about wikipdia policy that I don't understand. As I misunderstand the use of article tagging, I agree to cease using article tagging forthwith. • I don't understand how my edits to the red meat article constitute edit warring. When the consensus opposed an edit, I dropped the matter. • I don't understand how my edits to the red meat talk page constitute bludgeoning. What did I do wrong? • i don't understand how my edits to the saturated fat article constitute edit warring. When the consensus opposed an edit, I dropped the matter. • It would be helpful if you could explain what I have done wrong here. I am shocked that you took this action. sbelknap (talk) 01:25, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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You are shocked, yet you have been warned and advised many times, see for example the five sections immediately above, all from this month. That's not mentioning the posts you have blanked. You have engaged with none of them, typically instead responding with "Please stay off my talk page". They are all from experienced editors (except perhaps the IP). It's a pity it took a block to make you take an interest in learning about the policies and the culture here. You have rebuffed all attempts to inform and/or discuss; wasting the time of other editors in that way is almost a block reason in itself. As Hipal told you recently, "Working cooperatively with others is required" (you promptly removed that). There is also an informative collection of diffs concerning Saturated fat on Hipal's page, which Hipal told you about a couple of days ago (information also removed by you).
But I'll briefly answer your specific queries above:
- "I don't understand how my edits to the red meat article constitute edit warring". After removing a large chunk of material on 20 December, where you removed a lot of high-quality sources (along with some low-quality ones) and introduced Zeraatkar's review as a source for your statement that there is "only low-quality evidence regarding the relationship between eating red meat and death". Compare Talk:Red meat, pretty much passim in its current state: there is obviously consensus against using Zeraatkar. That did not stop you from re-introducing Zeraatkar repeatedly. That's edit warring. Then you tried to force a POV tag onto the article by edit warring, which you apparently now understand was a bad idea; again, it's a pity it took a block, as it was certainly explained to you clearly enough before.
- "I don't understand how my edits to the red meat talk page constitute bludgeoning". So did you look up WP:BLUDGEON? People provide you with links for a reason. Your refusal to drop the stick in the Failure to Present WP:NPOVsection appears designed to wear out everybody else. I'm not saying that was your actual intention, but you need to respect the time and patience of other volunteers.
- "I don't understand how my edits to the saturated fat article constitute edit warring." No, I don't think they did, much. My warning about Saturated fat referred more to your aggressive editing of the talkpage, such as this.
I didn't mention personal attacks in my block rationale - can't mention everything - but this is a pretty appalling example. "Vandalism"? "Time to take a break"? Nice. (Here I see you also telling Hipal to take some time away from Wikipedia.) Bishonen | tålk 18:56, 30 December 2022 (UTC).
I consider your decision to block me to be inappropriate and counter-productive to the mission of wikipedia (in a limited way, I'm just one editor). Your claim that I removed high-quality sources is false. I reviewed (or had previously reviewed) each of the sources that I removed from the red meat article; each had been deprecated or was of low quality. Many of the reasons given by other editors for reverting my edits seem specious to me. What I've learned is that there is a plant-based bias that extends over many wikipedia articles—more than 100 and counting. I've learned that many other editors have noticed this bias and have attempted to correct it and failed. (Look through the archives for articles adjacent to veganism or carnivory and see for yourself.) This bias is so pervasive that it seems unlikely that this is occurring without the implicit support of wikipedia administrators and leadership. Further, I learned that many wikipedia editors do not follow wikipedia policies and guidelines on matters adjacent to veganism or carnivory. That is interesting and useful information. I am optimistic that this serious flaw in wikipedia can be fixed. I remain committed in my efforts to improve wikipedia. Perhaps approaches such as these would help [12]sbelknap (talk) 21:26, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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- I don't understand the Special diff clip. Please explain.
- Thanks for your time. sbelknap (talk) 16:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- The special:Diff link takes you to Doug Weller's close of the ANI thread, wherein he explains the sanction he's imposing. Perhaps a permanent link to the whole ANI discussion will be more helpful to you, since I will be urging you to study that discussion. Here it is. Bishonen | tålk 09:08, 11 October 2023 (UTC).
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Hi, Sbelknap. I thought I'd suggest a few points to you in relation to your topic ban. First, if anything is unclear now, or if you later become uncertain as to whether or not you may edit a particular page, please consult Doug Weller or ask at
- During the ban, make a point of editing in other areas. Even better, if you're inclined to edit biomedical subjects in other wikis, doing that successfully would be a very good thing to have to point to when you appeal.
- Don't appeal too soon - the community will be more likely to accept an appeal if you have taken some time to show you can and will edit collegially in other topics and other wikis. I'd wait at least three months if I were you.
I'm not trying to tell you what to do - merely sharing what has, in my experience, worked for other people. Good luck. Bishonen | tålk 15:17, 10 October 2023 (UTC).
- • Please explain what I've done wrong in my edits on the talk page for the saturated article.
- • Why was the ban so broad? This is a broad, indefinite ban from the area where I have the most to contribute.
- Thanks for your time. sbelknap (talk) 16:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- The problem with your input on intransigence. You can learn much about the problem people see with your way of contributing if you read the ANI thread with an open mind, rather than dismissing it as "a pile-on". Failure to listen and "Soaking up other people's editing time" are big points made by several. Even the lone opposer of sanctions, Carlstak, concedes that "Maybe the user is disruptive".
- The problem with your input on
- The reason the ban is broad is no doubt that quite a few experienced users in the ANI thread argued for an indefinite siteban per WP:NOTHERE. Some only wanted a limited ban from saturated fat, some a broader topic ban; what you got was something in the middle, i. e. the third of these alternatives, as the closer said.
- The reason the ban is broad is no doubt that quite a few experienced users in the ANI thread argued for an indefinite siteban per
- BTW, do you know about pinging? It's a widely used system for alerting people that you have a question for them. Please see WP:PING. TLDR version: If you link to a username in a comment and sign in the same edit, like this [[User:Bishonen]], that user will receive a notification that you want to talk to them. If you had pinged me, I would have seen your questions sooner. Bishonen | tålk 09:13, 11 October 2023 (UTC).]
- There's another way to ping, maybe easier, see Help:Talk_pages#Getting_started. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:07, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. sbelknap (talk) 14:39, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Thanks for telling me about pinging; that does look useful.
- You are correct that some others (many of whom were not involved in the back & forth on the saturated fat talk page) claim repetitiousness & intransigence. That does not comport with the facts. I've seen many lengthy discussions on talk pages that often (eventually) result in consensus. It was my understanding that this is the very purpose of the talk pages. The idea that I am wasting the time of other editors seems absurd to me. I am sincere about wanting to improve the nutrition & health pages and I have something to contribute in this domain.
- What has happened on the saturated fat, taurine & red meat talk pages is that when I present a high-quality secondary source article, others reject it with a specious argument, such as an ad hominem against the author(s) of that article. When I explain why the objection is specious and ask for either consensus or some substantive non-specious objection; even more specious arguments are presented! In my view, the repetition is due, at least in part, to the specious objections. Often the dismissal of my point is from an editor who seems to have not read the high-quality source I've presented. Am I to understand that when only specious argument(s) are presented, I am to cease discussion and consider the matter closed?
- Regarding the ANI thread, I note nutrition & health content raises issues related to religion, veganism/carnivory, animal rights, global warming & social equity. There is a pattern across at least two dozen nutrition & health wikipedia pages where high-quality citations and content are suppressed. It seems that wikipedia has policies on contentious content that are not applied to nutrition & health—perhaps this area is not on the radar. I am not dismissing the ANI thread. I am asking that you & other wikipedia leaders consider that the WP:NOTHERE problem lies elsewhere than with me and that ideology is driving some editors on content decisions about nutrition articles. Nutrition does appear on Wikipedia:List of controversial issues but it doesn't seem that the safeguards used for other issues is applied to nutrition.
- I appreciate your engaging with me in discussion on this matter. sbelknap (talk) 16:59, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- BTW, do you know about pinging? It's a widely used system for alerting people that you have a question for them. Please see
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- There may be something to what you say. This was a tough one. I eventually settled on Salix martiana as the preferred specific epithet based on my perusal of the botanic literature. See my reply to discussion on the new Salix martiana talk page.
- I'm open to whatever we can find as authoritative.
- It's quite an interesting tree.
- Thanks. sbelknap (talk) 03:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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