User talk:St. claires fire/Archive 1

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Hi, I'm RileyBugz. St. claires fire, thanks for creating Total victory!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Hello! I noticed that your recent creation, total victory, is slanted towards an American view of the subject. It would be nice if you could try and globalize it. It is good otherwise, though, so I marked it as reviewed. Thanks!

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The contents of the articles are detailed below. I have to say it looks very strange that you and N I H I L I S T have so much overlap. Are the two accounts related?

• Virginia's 22nd House of Delegates district election, 2017, to be held 7 November 2017, is between Kathy Byron and Libertarian Michael Millner.^[1][2][3]
• Virginia's 32nd House of Delegates district election, 2017, to be held 7 November 2017, is a contest between Democrat David Reid, and incumbent Republican
  Tag Greason.^[4] Reid, who describes himself as a moderate and pragmatist, wants to bring full-day kindergarten to Loudoun County, Virginia, focus on improving transportation in Northern Virginia, and send more state funding to colleges.^[5] It is expected that this race will be competitive.^[6]
• Virginia's 42nd House of Delegates district election, 2017, scheduled for 7 November 2017, is a contest between Republican incumbent
  United States presidential election, 2016.^[8][9]
• Virginia's 67th House of Delegates district election, 2017 is a race between Republican
  United States presidential election, 2016.^[12]
• Virginia's 89th House of Delegates district election, 2017, to be held 7 November 2017, is between Democrats Joe Dillard and Jay Jones, and Libertarian Terry Hurst.[13] Dillard is president of the Norfolk NAACP, and Jones is an attorney and the son of Jerrauld Jones. The incumbent Democrat, Daun Hester, is stepping down to run for Norfolk treasurer.^[14]

Number 57 12:38, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, no relation. Thanks for your help! St. claires fire (talk) 12:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do not restore. You have a political agenda going on and we're not going to let people exploit someone's murder. You created an article about a school board and the material that I removed was lacking in neutrality. There is no need to try to conflate a school board election and spin a controversy into a murder article. With an ongoing election, you need to leave this out. If it is a notable event then try to see if it stands as an article on its own...I don't think so.

Those people are not notable themselves and this does not even meet

This is a BLP removal. If you feel the inclination to restore it then go ahead and post at

"If you feel the inclination to restore it then go ahead and post at ANI and ask for further input." Are you actually inviting me to hit myself with a boomerang? Heh. St. claires fire (talk) 02:16, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You need to stop creating things like "Yeardleygate." You appear to be coatracking local political criticism into articles. I've deleted it. Acroterion (talk) 02:22, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, that's not what I'm doing. The content had to go there because there was nowhere else to put it. Lander himself is not notable, but the controversy is, and the interpretation that politicians are attaching to the murder is relevant to the "aftermath" of the murder. St. claires fire (talk) 02:24, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yet that's what it looks like from here. Don't shoehorn local political gaffes by non-notable people into unrelated (to the person making the gaffe) articles. That's coatracking - hijacking a topic to criticize a tangentially-related issue. Acroterion (talk) 02:28, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. When a new law is passed because of this murder then you'll have something to write. Somebody having a local squabble...doesn't mean anything to this case or article. Please review

WP:COATRACK.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 02:34, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply

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So then we should also get rid of mention of the gross negligence accusations against Dom Starsia, Marc Van Arsdale, Craig Littlepage, etc., because they are all non-notable people who got shoehorned into the article as well, as their involvement in the murder was only tangential at best.

It wasn't just a gaffe. Lander was talking about the relation between culture and/or education policy, and murder. Yeah, okay, there's no Yeardley's Law yet, that's true. St. claires fire (talk) 02:38, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The people you mentioned above are relative to the case. The school board people are not...not at all.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 02:50, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, Dom Starsia, Marc Van Arsdale, Craig Littlepage, etc. weren't relevant to the murder case. They were defendants in a wrongful death case that got dropped. Their being named in Murder_of_Yeardley_Love#Wrongful_death_civil_lawsuits could be a BLP concern, since there's potential for harm to their reputation.

What's about

John Casteen's expressed hopes "that her dying inspires an anger, a sense of outrage that engenders determination here and wherever Yeardley's name is recognized that no woman, no person in this place, this community, this state, our nation need either fear for her safety or experience violence for any reason"? (See Murder_of_Yeardley_Love#Aftermath

.) Casteen had no involvement in her murder case either. He's just a person who, like Lander, is commenting on the murder's meaning in the larger picture of society.

Anyway, it seems like you framed this as a BLP removal in order to escalate it to a level at which I can be blocked if I reinstate the material, but I don't think it's actually a legitimate BLP issue. St. claires fire (talk) 03:31, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to argue for their removal on the talk page, I won't stop you. That is not the issue that I have raised here. It also doesn't matter what folks running for school board elections think about our article subjects. Their opinions are not germane and do not need to be noted. As to the legitimacy of the BLP claim, let's see what others have to say at the noticeboard.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 04:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]