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Removed trolling
Just to let you know, I remove Elsie trolling (the organ damage thing) that you responded to Nil Einne (talk) 00:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- Good stuff. I'll try to avoid feeding them. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:02, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks :-) hydnjo (talk) 23:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
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Looks good. My source seemed very anti-BP. Now we have balance.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 16:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
RD Computing
Oops, no. I had the edit pane open for really long, and reloading it didn't have an affect for some reason. Thanks for fixing it. Paul (Stansifer) 18:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at
The
To see an article with a large list of both have a look at something like the
"I think that's a very poor reading on your part of the intent of the WP:CITESHORT element of that page." I don't think so, I directed you to the section
For Attribution see the section "
Railways
Thanks for the note. I do remember doing the edit, but I can't remember why I didnt complete at the time. Maybe I got distracted or maybe I found some non standard cases on page B and couldnt figure it out. I can run a script to do an auto conversion, but it's probably worth getting the template right first (ie extending out for all the possible optional information). I'm not a great template expert but I think there's some kind of { { if } } tag to help do this. I'll start a discussion on the template tag talk page to try and get consensus on what should be in the templates.ChrisUK (talk) 20:20, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Priories
Hi. Pleased you are interested in monasteries. I'll ask The Anome Bot to add coordinates, no worries. I was not sure if it was waterfall of orin because the category says is a waterfall of Scotland..Starzynka (talk) 11:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
List of monastic houses in Bedfordshire. I did source a few of them to British History website and dates were correct so I thought it reliable.Starzynka (talk) 11:40, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
You are welcome. i had forget about Wales, Scotland and Ireland priories. I will start later and will add a see also link if this is useful. I also have Belgian priories to start.Starzynka (talk) 12:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Award
English Priory Award
For excellent edits to priory stubs. Keep up great job!Starzynka (talk) 11:45, 16 September 2010 (UTC) |
You may want to have a look at some changes I made to this article. Would be interesting to see if you consider them vandalism or constructive edits... Anyway, someone within a better knowledge of the subject and the legal case against his nephew should have a look at the article. Tryde (talk) 14:58, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Article creation
Have you seen
Copyedit on A6 (Croatia)
Hey, just wanted to drop you a line and invite you to "reply" to copyedit requests that you're working on, so that other editors can see at a glance how the requests are being handled. Also note when you finish one up. You can use the {{working}} and {{completed}} templates with your signature if you find that to be convenient (what I do). Thanks! –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 00:46, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you very much
Thank you, for your positive comments about my work, in the deletion discussion for the article Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System at the AFD page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System. Your comments are most appreciated. Thanks again, -- Cirt (talk) 18:44, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Earls of Northumberland
Hi Tagishsimon; i wonder if you can help. An addition you added here to the above wikticle seems to be substantially the same as a chunk of text from here. Did they take it from us, or is it possible you inadvertently violated copyright? If the former, no worries; if the latter, maybe we can work on eliminating it. Cheers, LindsayHi 15:51, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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WikiProject Sociology membership
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Artur Balder References
- References: I dont know if it should be done here, but I will add some references below.
There are references to Artur Balder as writer in the most important Spanish media. I list some of them:
El País, published for instance in nacional sites, culture, books 2006: http://www.elpais.com/articulo/cultura/Artur/Balder/triunfa/narrativa/infantil/debuta/historica/elpepicul/20060610elpepicul_5/Tes?print=1
On the other hand it is strange that someone can state that may be the Artur Balder of Little Spain is not the same as the Artur BAlder of the books, since at the official site of the documentary you can download the press kit in high resolution, and in the chapter that it dedicates to the director, Artur Balder is the author of El Evangelio de la Espada, Crónicas de Widukind, and this is too in the GERMAN wikipedia stated. Both links:
http://little-spain.us/Little_Spain_Prensa_2010.pdf
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Balder
The Little Spain official site links to an official Flickr site where is clear to see the references of Artur Balder. I invite you to visit the www.little-spain.us
Artur Balder is author of, as far as I know, 7 novels, some them translated into 8 languages, including nederlands, italian, french, with major publishing houses. The publishing house in spanish for his fantasy fiction is Random House Mondadori. You can read at the corporate website of RHM the recommendation of the author:
http://www.randomhousemondadori.com/Sellos/SellosFicha.aspx?Idioma=En&id=15
The historical fiction is being published by Edhasa, a major prestigious publishing house in Spain:
The official site for its last historical fiction, published in november 2010, had a shortfilm for promotion of the saga, and all the information is available in english, german and spanish, with an excerpt of the book in russian, too:
htt://www.widukind.eu
References caused by announcement the documentary of "Little Spain":
Looking at the search result you can see ALL the spanish media in the list in the first 100 results, from La Vanguardia, El País, El Mundo, La Razón... Just all. There is consensus about the relevance of the work of Artur Balder in relationship with the restoring of the historical memory of a large number of immigrants in New York City and Little Spain.
The information, that was not intended primarly to the american media, was however trnaslated from agency EFE AMERICA reports into the pages of the Chicago Tribune and Latin American Herald Tribune, and translated into english:
Particularly the link to The Latin American Herald Tribune:
http://laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=13003&ArticleId=378105
And this is the resulat of a first private screening at La Nacional, the Spanish Benevolent Society of NY, last november, for the Spanish media and media agencies. Wikipedists have to know that the documentary is going to be released in a major film festival of New york city in 2011, but I cannot write down the name since it will be 100% sure.
The IMDb has accepted the credits of Balder's work in film industry during the last 10 years:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3470412/
Articles about Artur Balder are present in about 10 languages of Wikipedia, included the german one.
I hope I can rebuild a logical article about the subject, and later continue adding other contributions since there are a lot of historical interesting discoverings at 14th street of Manhattan in relationship with its Spanish American past.
Lolox76 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC).
What sort of Iron
Hi I read your comment on Iron FErtilization talk page. Would like to know more about your interest in Iron Fertilzation. We have invented a Nano silica based Iron product for use in water. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhaskarmv (talk • contribs) 05:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Hidden Report
Please explain where it is available, as the only link on that page does NOT link to the report. 86.173.174.159 (talk) 12:59, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- The text banner at the top of the page is exactly that - a text banner. It has no link functionality. My IP address changing is the fault of my ISP. 86.173.174.159 (talk) 13:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- That link is far from obvious. Why not use the direct reference in the article?
- I have no intention of opening an account because I don't have to. I have enough usernames and passwords to manage without creating more. 86.173.174.159 (talk) 13:12, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- Then that is your tough shit! Anyone with brains would post the response on their own talk page where I have the intelligence to look for it. 86.173.174.159 (talk) 13:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I warned the user for the above post, as a ]
- Umm, thanks. But I think he was just giving as good as he got.--Tagishsimon (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- I warned the user for the above post, as a ]
Re: Vyacheslav Molotov
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Special barnstar
The Special Barnstar
Tagishsimon is awarded this barnstar to congratulate them on starting the article on Royal Mail rubber bands, without which the encyclopedia would not be the same! SmartSE (talk) 10:54, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Punch cartoons
Proposed move of City of BradfordHi,
I have proposed a vote on moving City of Bradford Metropolitan District. Please could you vote on this issue and let anyone else interested know.
Thanks -- Q Chris (talk) 09:24, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
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National Railway Museum
David Lawson (author)
Stalking talk page cleanup/archive
Tomorrow
York meetup
- Hmm. Bare minimum wasn't satisfactory, I'm afraid. I arrived at the Punchbowl a minute or two after 7pm. The pub was quite busy. I bought a pint and wandered around, trying to work out who might be Wikipedians and who not. I approached a few likely-looking groups ("Excuse me, I'm supposed to be meeting a few people here, but I don't know what they look like - are you expecting anyone to join you?") but the answer was always no. Nobody accosted me. I assumed that you'd all be sitting at a table, but none of the tables looked very likely. I even looked out for purple tops, but I'm slightly colour-blind and can't easily distinguish purple from blue. Anyway, by 7.20 I'd finished my pint and was feeling fed up so I went home. My journey wasn't entirely wasted, as I needed to pick up some rail tickets at the station (and I try not to drink too much beer for waistline reasons), but wandering around in pubs feeling embarrassed and accosting people isn't really my thing - and they might even have thought that I was up to no good.
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
Thanks for the note - water under the bridge now. I suppose I could have taken a book and hung around longer, but I was expecting that there'd be people there at or not long after 7pm. Hope the NRM thing went well. Ironically, I received this morning my free WP Online Ambassador sweatshirt/hoodie. Now, if it had arrived a day earlier... --GuillaumeTell 15:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
KMIC Conference WorkshopHi Simon,
Great to meet you today. Hope you got something out of it too! Our student conference is visible here: https://kminterconference.wikispaces.com/ (treacherous I know, but it seemed to fit the bill at the time) The Workshops are on the Friday pm (15th July) and I think a Wikipedia workshop would be brilliant. I'm still waiting for confirmation from my co-organisers whether they are up for a non-student running something. If you could confirm your availability that would be brilliant. PatHadley (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok brilliant. I'll let you know as soon as I possibly can. PatHadley (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikimedia uk should be able to help - we have a director in Manchester Victuallers (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pat's gig is in York. But we do have another gig in Manchester ... I'll talk to you this evening about it all and we can work out who's fielding which meeting. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
- I made another change to try to clarify my intent. I would appreciate if you would remove the extra discussion if you're now OK with my notice. (since I'm kinda the implied bad guy in the situation and don't want to ruffle any feathers) As to your last note, I want it at the village pump so that it sees a wider audience. Previous discussions on this took place there, on ANI, and through RFC I think. This is a guideline change on something that has been in place for years. The top of the VPP page says that The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss proposed policies and guidelines and changes to existing policies and guidelines. --Onorem♠Dil 20:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you beat me to it. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 20:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#BLP_in_a_user_page
- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
Do not take this as a criticism, it is intended to help you understand how you might improve your copy-editing skills. Please try and read more
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers), and perhaps consider doing some of the exercises on the GOCE copy-editing pages Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to.
If you have any questions or concerns about editing, do not hesitate to get in touch with myself or any of the other co-ordinators listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators Chaosdruid (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Pre-RFC straw poll
DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
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Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk
) 00:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Talkback
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Reverts on UK roads
M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
Talkback
Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
DYK for Harrington Hump
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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I appreciate your message to me, alerting me to events happening in community, a proposal that seems to me to be against the purpose of wikipedia, which would adversely affect the wikipedia work I have done. rkmlai (talk) 16:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Proposed move of City of BradfordHi,
I have proposed a vote on moving City of Bradford Metropolitan District. Please could you vote on this issue and let anyone else interested know.
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National Railway Museum
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Stalking talk page cleanup/archive
Tomorrow
York meetup
- Hmm. Bare minimum wasn't satisfactory, I'm afraid. I arrived at the Punchbowl a minute or two after 7pm. The pub was quite busy. I bought a pint and wandered around, trying to work out who might be Wikipedians and who not. I approached a few likely-looking groups ("Excuse me, I'm supposed to be meeting a few people here, but I don't know what they look like - are you expecting anyone to join you?") but the answer was always no. Nobody accosted me. I assumed that you'd all be sitting at a table, but none of the tables looked very likely. I even looked out for purple tops, but I'm slightly colour-blind and can't easily distinguish purple from blue. Anyway, by 7.20 I'd finished my pint and was feeling fed up so I went home. My journey wasn't entirely wasted, as I needed to pick up some rail tickets at the station (and I try not to drink too much beer for waistline reasons), but wandering around in pubs feeling embarrassed and accosting people isn't really my thing - and they might even have thought that I was up to no good.
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
Thanks for the note - water under the bridge now. I suppose I could have taken a book and hung around longer, but I was expecting that there'd be people there at or not long after 7pm. Hope the NRM thing went well. Ironically, I received this morning my free WP Online Ambassador sweatshirt/hoodie. Now, if it had arrived a day earlier... --GuillaumeTell 15:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
KMIC Conference WorkshopHi Simon,
Great to meet you today. Hope you got something out of it too! Our student conference is visible here: https://kminterconference.wikispaces.com/ (treacherous I know, but it seemed to fit the bill at the time) The Workshops are on the Friday pm (15th July) and I think a Wikipedia workshop would be brilliant. I'm still waiting for confirmation from my co-organisers whether they are up for a non-student running something. If you could confirm your availability that would be brilliant. PatHadley (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok brilliant. I'll let you know as soon as I possibly can. PatHadley (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikimedia uk should be able to help - we have a director in Manchester Victuallers (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pat's gig is in York. But we do have another gig in Manchester ... I'll talk to you this evening about it all and we can work out who's fielding which meeting. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
- I made another change to try to clarify my intent. I would appreciate if you would remove the extra discussion if you're now OK with my notice. (since I'm kinda the implied bad guy in the situation and don't want to ruffle any feathers) As to your last note, I want it at the village pump so that it sees a wider audience. Previous discussions on this took place there, on ANI, and through RFC I think. This is a guideline change on something that has been in place for years. The top of the VPP page says that The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss proposed policies and guidelines and changes to existing policies and guidelines. --Onorem♠Dil 20:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you beat me to it. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 20:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#BLP_in_a_user_page
- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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If you have any questions or concerns about editing, do not hesitate to get in touch with myself or any of the other co-ordinators listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators Chaosdruid (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
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- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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Re:Yeates co-ordinates
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Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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I have proposed a vote on moving City of Bradford Metropolitan District. Please could you vote on this issue and let anyone else interested know.
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National Railway Museum
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Stalking talk page cleanup/archive
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York meetup
- Hmm. Bare minimum wasn't satisfactory, I'm afraid. I arrived at the Punchbowl a minute or two after 7pm. The pub was quite busy. I bought a pint and wandered around, trying to work out who might be Wikipedians and who not. I approached a few likely-looking groups ("Excuse me, I'm supposed to be meeting a few people here, but I don't know what they look like - are you expecting anyone to join you?") but the answer was always no. Nobody accosted me. I assumed that you'd all be sitting at a table, but none of the tables looked very likely. I even looked out for purple tops, but I'm slightly colour-blind and can't easily distinguish purple from blue. Anyway, by 7.20 I'd finished my pint and was feeling fed up so I went home. My journey wasn't entirely wasted, as I needed to pick up some rail tickets at the station (and I try not to drink too much beer for waistline reasons), but wandering around in pubs feeling embarrassed and accosting people isn't really my thing - and they might even have thought that I was up to no good.
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
Thanks for the note - water under the bridge now. I suppose I could have taken a book and hung around longer, but I was expecting that there'd be people there at or not long after 7pm. Hope the NRM thing went well. Ironically, I received this morning my free WP Online Ambassador sweatshirt/hoodie. Now, if it had arrived a day earlier... --GuillaumeTell 15:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
KMIC Conference WorkshopHi Simon,
Great to meet you today. Hope you got something out of it too! Our student conference is visible here: https://kminterconference.wikispaces.com/ (treacherous I know, but it seemed to fit the bill at the time) The Workshops are on the Friday pm (15th July) and I think a Wikipedia workshop would be brilliant. I'm still waiting for confirmation from my co-organisers whether they are up for a non-student running something. If you could confirm your availability that would be brilliant. PatHadley (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok brilliant. I'll let you know as soon as I possibly can. PatHadley (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikimedia uk should be able to help - we have a director in Manchester Victuallers (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pat's gig is in York. But we do have another gig in Manchester ... I'll talk to you this evening about it all and we can work out who's fielding which meeting. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
- I made another change to try to clarify my intent. I would appreciate if you would remove the extra discussion if you're now OK with my notice. (since I'm kinda the implied bad guy in the situation and don't want to ruffle any feathers) As to your last note, I want it at the village pump so that it sees a wider audience. Previous discussions on this took place there, on ANI, and through RFC I think. This is a guideline change on something that has been in place for years. The top of the VPP page says that The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss proposed policies and guidelines and changes to existing policies and guidelines. --Onorem♠Dil 20:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you beat me to it. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 20:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#BLP_in_a_user_page
- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
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WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Where-geo
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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Re:Yeates co-ordinates
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Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hmm. Bare minimum wasn't satisfactory, I'm afraid. I arrived at the Punchbowl a minute or two after 7pm. The pub was quite busy. I bought a pint and wandered around, trying to work out who might be Wikipedians and who not. I approached a few likely-looking groups ("Excuse me, I'm supposed to be meeting a few people here, but I don't know what they look like - are you expecting anyone to join you?") but the answer was always no. Nobody accosted me. I assumed that you'd all be sitting at a table, but none of the tables looked very likely. I even looked out for purple tops, but I'm slightly colour-blind and can't easily distinguish purple from blue. Anyway, by 7.20 I'd finished my pint and was feeling fed up so I went home. My journey wasn't entirely wasted, as I needed to pick up some rail tickets at the station (and I try not to drink too much beer for waistline reasons), but wandering around in pubs feeling embarrassed and accosting people isn't really my thing - and they might even have thought that I was up to no good.
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
Thanks for the note - water under the bridge now. I suppose I could have taken a book and hung around longer, but I was expecting that there'd be people there at or not long after 7pm. Hope the NRM thing went well. Ironically, I received this morning my free WP Online Ambassador sweatshirt/hoodie. Now, if it had arrived a day earlier... --GuillaumeTell 15:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
KMIC Conference WorkshopHi Simon,
Great to meet you today. Hope you got something out of it too! Our student conference is visible here: https://kminterconference.wikispaces.com/ (treacherous I know, but it seemed to fit the bill at the time) The Workshops are on the Friday pm (15th July) and I think a Wikipedia workshop would be brilliant. I'm still waiting for confirmation from my co-organisers whether they are up for a non-student running something. If you could confirm your availability that would be brilliant. PatHadley (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok brilliant. I'll let you know as soon as I possibly can. PatHadley (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikimedia uk should be able to help - we have a director in Manchester Victuallers (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pat's gig is in York. But we do have another gig in Manchester ... I'll talk to you this evening about it all and we can work out who's fielding which meeting. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
- I made another change to try to clarify my intent. I would appreciate if you would remove the extra discussion if you're now OK with my notice. (since I'm kinda the implied bad guy in the situation and don't want to ruffle any feathers) As to your last note, I want it at the village pump so that it sees a wider audience. Previous discussions on this took place there, on ANI, and through RFC I think. This is a guideline change on something that has been in place for years. The top of the VPP page says that The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss proposed policies and guidelines and changes to existing policies and guidelines. --Onorem♠Dil 20:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you beat me to it. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 20:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#BLP_in_a_user_page
- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Pre-RFC straw poll
DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
Talkback
Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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Notice of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard
- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
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Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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Coey
- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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York meetup
- Hmm. Bare minimum wasn't satisfactory, I'm afraid. I arrived at the Punchbowl a minute or two after 7pm. The pub was quite busy. I bought a pint and wandered around, trying to work out who might be Wikipedians and who not. I approached a few likely-looking groups ("Excuse me, I'm supposed to be meeting a few people here, but I don't know what they look like - are you expecting anyone to join you?") but the answer was always no. Nobody accosted me. I assumed that you'd all be sitting at a table, but none of the tables looked very likely. I even looked out for purple tops, but I'm slightly colour-blind and can't easily distinguish purple from blue. Anyway, by 7.20 I'd finished my pint and was feeling fed up so I went home. My journey wasn't entirely wasted, as I needed to pick up some rail tickets at the station (and I try not to drink too much beer for waistline reasons), but wandering around in pubs feeling embarrassed and accosting people isn't really my thing - and they might even have thought that I was up to no good.
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
Thanks for the note - water under the bridge now. I suppose I could have taken a book and hung around longer, but I was expecting that there'd be people there at or not long after 7pm. Hope the NRM thing went well. Ironically, I received this morning my free WP Online Ambassador sweatshirt/hoodie. Now, if it had arrived a day earlier... --GuillaumeTell 15:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
KMIC Conference WorkshopHi Simon,
Great to meet you today. Hope you got something out of it too! Our student conference is visible here: https://kminterconference.wikispaces.com/ (treacherous I know, but it seemed to fit the bill at the time) The Workshops are on the Friday pm (15th July) and I think a Wikipedia workshop would be brilliant. I'm still waiting for confirmation from my co-organisers whether they are up for a non-student running something. If you could confirm your availability that would be brilliant. PatHadley (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok brilliant. I'll let you know as soon as I possibly can. PatHadley (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikimedia uk should be able to help - we have a director in Manchester Victuallers (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pat's gig is in York. But we do have another gig in Manchester ... I'll talk to you this evening about it all and we can work out who's fielding which meeting. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
- I made another change to try to clarify my intent. I would appreciate if you would remove the extra discussion if you're now OK with my notice. (since I'm kinda the implied bad guy in the situation and don't want to ruffle any feathers) As to your last note, I want it at the village pump so that it sees a wider audience. Previous discussions on this took place there, on ANI, and through RFC I think. This is a guideline change on something that has been in place for years. The top of the VPP page says that The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss proposed policies and guidelines and changes to existing policies and guidelines. --Onorem♠Dil 20:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you beat me to it. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 20:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#BLP_in_a_user_page
- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
Talkback
Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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Coey
- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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York meetup
- Hmm. Bare minimum wasn't satisfactory, I'm afraid. I arrived at the Punchbowl a minute or two after 7pm. The pub was quite busy. I bought a pint and wandered around, trying to work out who might be Wikipedians and who not. I approached a few likely-looking groups ("Excuse me, I'm supposed to be meeting a few people here, but I don't know what they look like - are you expecting anyone to join you?") but the answer was always no. Nobody accosted me. I assumed that you'd all be sitting at a table, but none of the tables looked very likely. I even looked out for purple tops, but I'm slightly colour-blind and can't easily distinguish purple from blue. Anyway, by 7.20 I'd finished my pint and was feeling fed up so I went home. My journey wasn't entirely wasted, as I needed to pick up some rail tickets at the station (and I try not to drink too much beer for waistline reasons), but wandering around in pubs feeling embarrassed and accosting people isn't really my thing - and they might even have thought that I was up to no good.
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
Thanks for the note - water under the bridge now. I suppose I could have taken a book and hung around longer, but I was expecting that there'd be people there at or not long after 7pm. Hope the NRM thing went well. Ironically, I received this morning my free WP Online Ambassador sweatshirt/hoodie. Now, if it had arrived a day earlier... --GuillaumeTell 15:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
KMIC Conference WorkshopHi Simon,
Great to meet you today. Hope you got something out of it too! Our student conference is visible here: https://kminterconference.wikispaces.com/ (treacherous I know, but it seemed to fit the bill at the time) The Workshops are on the Friday pm (15th July) and I think a Wikipedia workshop would be brilliant. I'm still waiting for confirmation from my co-organisers whether they are up for a non-student running something. If you could confirm your availability that would be brilliant. PatHadley (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok brilliant. I'll let you know as soon as I possibly can. PatHadley (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikimedia uk should be able to help - we have a director in Manchester Victuallers (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pat's gig is in York. But we do have another gig in Manchester ... I'll talk to you this evening about it all and we can work out who's fielding which meeting. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
- I made another change to try to clarify my intent. I would appreciate if you would remove the extra discussion if you're now OK with my notice. (since I'm kinda the implied bad guy in the situation and don't want to ruffle any feathers) As to your last note, I want it at the village pump so that it sees a wider audience. Previous discussions on this took place there, on ANI, and through RFC I think. This is a guideline change on something that has been in place for years. The top of the VPP page says that The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss proposed policies and guidelines and changes to existing policies and guidelines. --Onorem♠Dil 20:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you beat me to it. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 20:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#BLP_in_a_user_page
- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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If you have any questions or concerns about editing, do not hesitate to get in touch with myself or any of the other co-ordinators listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators Chaosdruid (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Pre-RFC straw poll
DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
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Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk
) 00:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
Talkback
Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
DYK for Harrington Hump
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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I appreciate your message to me, alerting me to events happening in community, a proposal that seems to me to be against the purpose of wikipedia, which would adversely affect the wikipedia work I have done. rkmlai (talk) 16:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Notice of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard
- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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Coey
- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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York meetup
- Hmm. Bare minimum wasn't satisfactory, I'm afraid. I arrived at the Punchbowl a minute or two after 7pm. The pub was quite busy. I bought a pint and wandered around, trying to work out who might be Wikipedians and who not. I approached a few likely-looking groups ("Excuse me, I'm supposed to be meeting a few people here, but I don't know what they look like - are you expecting anyone to join you?") but the answer was always no. Nobody accosted me. I assumed that you'd all be sitting at a table, but none of the tables looked very likely. I even looked out for purple tops, but I'm slightly colour-blind and can't easily distinguish purple from blue. Anyway, by 7.20 I'd finished my pint and was feeling fed up so I went home. My journey wasn't entirely wasted, as I needed to pick up some rail tickets at the station (and I try not to drink too much beer for waistline reasons), but wandering around in pubs feeling embarrassed and accosting people isn't really my thing - and they might even have thought that I was up to no good.
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
Thanks for the note - water under the bridge now. I suppose I could have taken a book and hung around longer, but I was expecting that there'd be people there at or not long after 7pm. Hope the NRM thing went well. Ironically, I received this morning my free WP Online Ambassador sweatshirt/hoodie. Now, if it had arrived a day earlier... --GuillaumeTell 15:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
KMIC Conference WorkshopHi Simon,
Great to meet you today. Hope you got something out of it too! Our student conference is visible here: https://kminterconference.wikispaces.com/ (treacherous I know, but it seemed to fit the bill at the time) The Workshops are on the Friday pm (15th July) and I think a Wikipedia workshop would be brilliant. I'm still waiting for confirmation from my co-organisers whether they are up for a non-student running something. If you could confirm your availability that would be brilliant. PatHadley (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok brilliant. I'll let you know as soon as I possibly can. PatHadley (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikimedia uk should be able to help - we have a director in Manchester Victuallers (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pat's gig is in York. But we do have another gig in Manchester ... I'll talk to you this evening about it all and we can work out who's fielding which meeting. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
- I made another change to try to clarify my intent. I would appreciate if you would remove the extra discussion if you're now OK with my notice. (since I'm kinda the implied bad guy in the situation and don't want to ruffle any feathers) As to your last note, I want it at the village pump so that it sees a wider audience. Previous discussions on this took place there, on ANI, and through RFC I think. This is a guideline change on something that has been in place for years. The top of the VPP page says that The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss proposed policies and guidelines and changes to existing policies and guidelines. --Onorem♠Dil 20:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you beat me to it. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 20:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#BLP_in_a_user_page
- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Pre-RFC straw poll
DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
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Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk
) 00:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
Talkback
Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
DYK for Harrington Hump
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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I appreciate your message to me, alerting me to events happening in community, a proposal that seems to me to be against the purpose of wikipedia, which would adversely affect the wikipedia work I have done. rkmlai (talk) 16:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Notice of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard
- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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Coey
- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hmm. Bare minimum wasn't satisfactory, I'm afraid. I arrived at the Punchbowl a minute or two after 7pm. The pub was quite busy. I bought a pint and wandered around, trying to work out who might be Wikipedians and who not. I approached a few likely-looking groups ("Excuse me, I'm supposed to be meeting a few people here, but I don't know what they look like - are you expecting anyone to join you?") but the answer was always no. Nobody accosted me. I assumed that you'd all be sitting at a table, but none of the tables looked very likely. I even looked out for purple tops, but I'm slightly colour-blind and can't easily distinguish purple from blue. Anyway, by 7.20 I'd finished my pint and was feeling fed up so I went home. My journey wasn't entirely wasted, as I needed to pick up some rail tickets at the station (and I try not to drink too much beer for waistline reasons), but wandering around in pubs feeling embarrassed and accosting people isn't really my thing - and they might even have thought that I was up to no good.
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
- The above is partly my fault, as I should have contacted you and other attendees a lot earlier than this afternoon, but still ....
- More constructively, and FWIW, my thoughts on the matter are:
- Choose a pub with a meeting-room, or a smaller pub
- If that isn't possible/convenient, exchange photos (mine can be found at Wikipedia:Online_Ambassadors/Mentors) and say in advance what you're wearing
- Perhaps print off individual name-badges in some common format and wear them
- Or wear some unusual article of clothing, or carry an unusual object, again notified in advance
Thanks for the note - water under the bridge now. I suppose I could have taken a book and hung around longer, but I was expecting that there'd be people there at or not long after 7pm. Hope the NRM thing went well. Ironically, I received this morning my free WP Online Ambassador sweatshirt/hoodie. Now, if it had arrived a day earlier... --GuillaumeTell 15:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
KMIC Conference WorkshopHi Simon,
Great to meet you today. Hope you got something out of it too! Our student conference is visible here: https://kminterconference.wikispaces.com/ (treacherous I know, but it seemed to fit the bill at the time) The Workshops are on the Friday pm (15th July) and I think a Wikipedia workshop would be brilliant. I'm still waiting for confirmation from my co-organisers whether they are up for a non-student running something. If you could confirm your availability that would be brilliant. PatHadley (talk) 20:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok brilliant. I'll let you know as soon as I possibly can. PatHadley (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikimedia uk should be able to help - we have a director in Manchester Victuallers (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pat's gig is in York. But we do have another gig in Manchester ... I'll talk to you this evening about it all and we can work out who's fielding which meeting. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
- I made another change to try to clarify my intent. I would appreciate if you would remove the extra discussion if you're now OK with my notice. (since I'm kinda the implied bad guy in the situation and don't want to ruffle any feathers) As to your last note, I want it at the village pump so that it sees a wider audience. Previous discussions on this took place there, on ANI, and through RFC I think. This is a guideline change on something that has been in place for years. The top of the VPP page says that The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss proposed policies and guidelines and changes to existing policies and guidelines. --Onorem♠Dil 20:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you beat me to it. Thanks. --Onorem♠Dil 20:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#BLP_in_a_user_page
- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
Do not take this as a criticism, it is intended to help you understand how you might improve your copy-editing skills. Please try and read more
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers), and perhaps consider doing some of the exercises on the GOCE copy-editing pages Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to.
If you have any questions or concerns about editing, do not hesitate to get in touch with myself or any of the other co-ordinators listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators Chaosdruid (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Pre-RFC straw poll
DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk
) 00:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
Talkback
Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
DYK for Harrington Hump
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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I appreciate your message to me, alerting me to events happening in community, a proposal that seems to me to be against the purpose of wikipedia, which would adversely affect the wikipedia work I have done. rkmlai (talk) 16:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Notice of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard
- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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Coey
- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- You'll have a very long wait, then. It wasn't you who was failing to assume good faith; my comment in that thread was not directed at you. There's also something comic about you being sooo upset over an accusation of lack of good faith in a thread you started, but so casual in deploying the same assertion here. Pot kettle black, etc. Thanks for calling. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
[[1]], at the bottom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.198.240 (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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If you have any questions or concerns about editing, do not hesitate to get in touch with myself or any of the other co-ordinators listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators Chaosdruid (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Pre-RFC straw poll
DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
Talkback
Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
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Re:Yeates
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Coey
- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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St. Mary The Church of Our Lady, Merevale
Your incivility at the RD againSee here:
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- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
Do not take this as a criticism, it is intended to help you understand how you might improve your copy-editing skills. Please try and read more
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers), and perhaps consider doing some of the exercises on the GOCE copy-editing pages Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to.
If you have any questions or concerns about editing, do not hesitate to get in touch with myself or any of the other co-ordinators listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators Chaosdruid (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Pre-RFC straw poll
DYK for Brizlee Tower
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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Reverts on UK roads
M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
Talkback
Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
DYK for Harrington Hump
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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Coey
- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Try learning how to link properly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Schooner Hotel
Liz Davenport
Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
Do not take this as a criticism, it is intended to help you understand how you might improve your copy-editing skills. Please try and read more
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers), and perhaps consider doing some of the exercises on the GOCE copy-editing pages Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to.
If you have any questions or concerns about editing, do not hesitate to get in touch with myself or any of the other co-ordinators listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators Chaosdruid (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
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M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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Re:Yeates co-ordinates
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Re:Yeates
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
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Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
DYK for Harrington Hump
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
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Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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Coey
- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Why are you still bringing this up? The article is looooooooooong gone. Don't dare question my intelligence because I let one article go. Who cares, don't msg me again. Feel free to scroll through my contribs and see my CSDS, PRODS, AFDs, etc. One article I let go and you're coming at me. Don't msg me again. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 08:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Blair Peach
EditingIt's all your :-)
Thanks --Jollyroger (talk) 12:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyEditor's BarnStar
I award you this CopyEditor's BarnStar for insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. -Jollyroger (talk) 12:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius (Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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New Changes
I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Articles for Creation
Talkback
Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- When you are done, I'll recover some info that got lost in the editing conflicts. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sistema_Supporto_Condotta done
- Intercity 2225 is the train name, not the trainset (as it's in UK). Intercity was a class of medium distance links, 2225/6 was the service between Verona and Bologna at the time (even number for the northeast-to-southwest connection, odd for vice-versa)
- Both those claims were taken from the articles linked there (note n. 5). Those are two articles following the Bologna University study about psycho support to victims and rescuers. I add links to an online copy
- Just a few days after, so 2005
- Well, this is a point of significance at the time, and a well known issue. Not just my opinion of course. Railway network was slowly being upgraded, and this accident came to be an example of the need of a faster and more comprehensive approach. This statement was present, in different forms, in both the union's claims and in the official inquiry response.
- I'm an experienced wiki editor (it.wiki mostly) but never managed to learn how to properly use those cite ref things. I had a custom interface add-on working on it.wiki but broke after the GUI change.
- Thanks for your help --Jollyroger (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
- Up to three request again! --Jollyroger (talk) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- This means that President Ciampi went to Foggia on a official trip, but was not supposed to speak in public. Victims' relatives waited for him and asked the President to say something addressing the tragedy (Ciampi was a beloved president). Some of them asked to meet him, and he agreed. He met in private with the relatives, and later kept an unplanned speech with the press about the tragedy. --Jollyroger (talk) 12:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC) P.S: Thanks again for your help
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Hi, would you mind do have a look at 1570_Ferrara_earthquake? That was a *long* one, from many fragmented sources full of technical jargon... --Jollyroger (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- The Duke's death and the political struggle were major events strongly influenced by the earthquake. I think a wider view should be considered when relating to events that had major political consequences. Much like if we don't include considerations about Bush's politics in a Katrina article... Thanks for the cleanup --Jollyroger (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- Circumvesuviana: maintenance was completed three days before. --Jollyroger (talk) 06:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
CopyeditsI just had a quick look at two of the articles you recently copy-edited, as I do with all new GOCE members. Please ensure that you take care with:
- Dates - ... January 1 2000 ... ... January 1, 2000, ...
- "A passenger train (was or became) derailed by a ravine ..." -> "A passenger train was derailed close to a ravine..."
- Refs should be after punctuation, not before them - Hello hello<ref>Blah blah<ref/>. Hello hello.<ref>Blah blah<ref/>
Murazze di Vado train disaster The rest of my changes were not that notable, general grammar and prose. To see what changes I made you can check the diff [2].
I also re-edited Circumvesuviana derailment- the diffs are here [3]:
- English most common names should be followed as per WP:COMMONNAME - Mount Vesuvius, not Vesuvio (and especially as the article goes on to use Naples, not Napoli). If both are to be included, one should be in brackets, eg: Mount Vesuvius(Vesuvio in Italian)
- Numbers as words rather than numbers - Seventy-one rather than 71
- Times - 11:10 not 11.10
- Plurals - severe damages -> severe damage
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I think I made some edits for this article, feel free to comment this article if this is much wrong or not simple. It may not match to its deletion policy. --Mohamed Aden Ighe 04:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Ears burning?
Geotagging roads articles
Jcttop
WP:DRN request
Clarification of consensus issue
- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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DYK for Brizlee Tower
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Dead Man's Plack
Where-geo
DYK for Camphill Column, Alnwick
DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
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Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
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M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- There's a reply on User talk:Fredddie's page that you may wish to read as well. --Rschen7754 01:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
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M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
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- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
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- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
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A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
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Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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Re:Yeates
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
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M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
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M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
Martinvl (talk) 13:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Road coordinates". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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SorryI apologise for the trouble caused. I didn't blame you but they used your name. I explain it in the Village: [4].
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M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
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- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
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Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
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- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
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- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
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Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
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Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
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Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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M5 coordinatesHi User:Tagishsimon,
I have undone most of the coordinates that you entered into the M5 article. I appreciate the work that you put into it, but may I refer you to the discussion at WP:RJL regarding coordinates. Basically the roads group have not come to a consensus regarding the way in which coordinatesd could be incoprorated into into road junction lists. However two points did come out of the discussions:
- There should not be a separate column for cooridinates. There was no consensus as to how they should be displayed, but the style in the M5 article (as restored by me) recevied favourable mention.
- The number of coordinates in a list should be limited. A maximum of 10 was suggested.
I have taken what I consider to be the most important coordinats that you catalogued and worked them into the text.
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
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- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
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- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
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Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
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A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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M23
I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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I appreciate your message to me, alerting me to events happening in community, a proposal that seems to me to be against the purpose of wikipedia, which would adversely affect the wikipedia work I have done. rkmlai (talk) 16:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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I have undone your reversion. Please discuss on the WP:RJL page - we cannot accomodate both coordinates and miles without making a dogs dinner of the RJL. The other editor concerned is probably as adamant about miles as you are about coordinates.
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
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- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
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- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
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Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
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A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
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Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Edit warring at M23 motorwayHello. I am unprotecting M23 motorway per a request on my talk page so that an editor can continue to make constructive edits to this page. I am writing this to you specifically as you were involved in a recent edit war on that page (which is not related to the request on my talk page), and I'm notifying you that any edit warring whatsoever in the next 2 weeks will be met with a block. Please don't take this as a license to edit war in the future.
Please do not interpret this as me taking anyone's specific side, or as accusing any specific editor either. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Removing Brown's Law in List of Eponymous Laws
- Umm, no. In what way would Brown's Law degrade over time? Nice try. No cigar. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Harrington Hump
- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Predispute version
- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI discussion
A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
Jamespels (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
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- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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Re:Yeates co-ordinates
- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
Re:Yeates
- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Thanks SS. Wikipedians rock. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
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- I've taken both back to the point at which The Anomebot2 tagged them. Your edit warring started immediately after that. As you note on one of the talk pages, this business should be left until there is a decision one way or another on whether US caves have an opt-out from the wikipedia convention of tagging things. You should not jump the gun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing Matt Hill's article title as Matt Hill (Actor)?
Thanks again, Jbro68 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
New Article - Schuyler Copper MineThanks for the quick response on Schuyler Copper Mine.
I have added several links to this article.
Zeete (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I've updated the date consistently to 1755 in the article and any links to it.
I've also added more references.
What do you think? Thanks.
Zeete (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Dee Dee Myers
Thanks for your assistanceHey, I really appreciate your effort, going out of your way to weigh in on a second article—especially one where I was in such a difficult spot. I can imagine how busy you must be with your own projects, so I'm very grateful for your help.
Fortunately, my experience has been that most editors understand I mean to make Wikipedia better on topics where I have a potential COI; unfortunately, Orangemike is exactly the opposite. It's been a long while since I've run into him, but if I have trouble like that in the future, I hope you'd be willing to help again. Also, I have added both Cracker Barrel and Dee Dee Myers to my list of improved articles—always was the plan, but I finally got around to it this morning.
If there was a barnstar for COI assistance, it would surely accompany this message. Maybe I should make one. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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Lynn Raye HarrisHello Tagishsimon
Will external links to the Mills and Boon author site and the Harlequin author site be sufficient? NasDean (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NasDean (talk • contribs) 20:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Murder of Joanna Yeates
Having problems with another editorHello there, Tagishsimon. You'd recently offered to help if I ran into trouble over my (I always intend) rule-following COI work, and I'm sorry to have to ask for your input already. I'm afraid this is the most concise, clear explanation I can give:
- Recently, I researched and wrote a draft for a relatively modest new article about a 45-year-old trade association, the Bias tags on the Global Automakers discussion page. They are getting a bit long, but they're at least fairly self-contained.
At this point, I think the only way forward is to bring in new perspectives. You came to mind first, but I'm not trying to forum-shop, merely to widen this discussion to include some fair-minded, solution-oriented editors. I would understand if you didn't want to get involved personally, but I really could use some outside advice on how to proceed. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for your comments, particularly on Jimbo's page. Very gratifying, considering the recent headaches. Ironically, I now think the NPOV template is warranted, at least on the Safety standards sub-section is a particularly absurd bit of original research, based on a strange extrapolation from the source he's provided. At the risk of pushing my luck, I'll probably write a concise summary for the Talk page this coming week, and see how that goes. Thanks again, WWB Too (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)]
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A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
Please ignore - posted in error.
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Star Party and Peak Star Party websiteHi Tagishsimon,
thanks for the helpful feedback on the PSP page - much appreciated. Hopefully the latest version explains why it is a notable event (even if quite small, it is surprisingly high impact in the rural Peak District!).
Also, you comment on the Star Party page that you will keep the "Peak Star Party" link red, but the entire sentence I added appears to have been deleted. Was this intentional - if so, can you explain why please?
Thanks again,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Peak Star Party pageHi again,
just thought - this may need another page describing what PDDS is - it isn't a local astro society but a regional charity incorporating about 8 societies in the region with support from the Peak District National Park Authority and Nottingham Trent University. We haven't registered with the Charities Commission yet but have met all the criteria (turnover, etc.) and will do so as soon as we have agreed the Trustees and the final remit, etc. We also need to formalise the links we are building with Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and Keele Universities to really get the education side of things fully supported.
I was planning on getting all of this sorted out before adding to Wikipedia but can sort out at least an outline page early on if necessary.
Thanks,
James.
Jamespels (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Responding to Your message about Proposal on GeotaggingGot your message and in response I have looked at the proposal about geotagging and voted to oppose. This is the first I had heard about it. These Wiki-disputes are amazingly wrong-headed. Thanks for the alert.
--Mdukas (talk) 16:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey. Just letting you know that this is blatant canvassing and will be dealt with accordingly, as some of your project members even called you out on. --Rschen7754 19:13, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Saw your note about kml files for items such as highways. I guess the good thing about a single point of data is that many online maps can place that point. In that way, depending on the map, you could tell if a lighthouse was near water, if Stonehenge is on a hill, or what kind of soil lies under the leaning tower of Pisa. What seems more important is a common interface to maps than having the "best" solution for a wikipedia page. Anyway, thank you very much for letting me know that other people are thinking about this. Fotoguzzi (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Whilst I tend to agree with your arguments, you could really have shot yourself in the foot with this. Bazonka (talk) 22:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to have posted to 125 user talk pages on this, making it probably the largest scale case of canvassing I have ever seen. Make sure you don't make the same mistake again: you could well have been blocked for this. talk) 12:17, 19 January 2012 (UTC)]
- I know i'm stopping by a little late, but as the closing admin on this RfC, I also have to say that I found it disruptive to the RfC. Now, I understand this is about two weeks done, but this should be your only warning for this. As JamesBWatson said, and i'm saying now, learn from our missteps and move on. -- (ʞlɐʇ) 18:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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- As an involved admin in an ongoing dispute you should not have involved yourself in this matter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Which is why I referred it to another admin, especially considering that I don't feel comfortable with anything images: User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#File:M11_Google_Example.jpg --Rschen7754 00:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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- Okay, if I'm not mistaken The Anomebot tagged them in April. It's December. The last edit prior to the edit war was by Leitmotiv in April. That should be your revert so it doesn't favor anyone in the edit war. By the way, I have been waiting for the decision on the cave infoboxes re: coordinates. If you had read the original discussion, you would know that the original state of the cave infobox is no coordinates! So really, it is Pigsonthewing who is jumping the gun, and not vice versa as you put it. Please, review your edits under this new information please. Thank you. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you're not able to agree at which edit the war began: IMO that was your first reversion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody's nagging, just disagreeing sir. Sorry you feel that way. Infoboxes are designed for coordinates as you well know. I'm also sorry you chose to "dissent" from your duty to revert to a version prior to the edit war and instead do it squarely in the middle of it. You have failed your duty and have shown biased preference. Good day. Leitmotiv (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, the meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coords or not. Coords in the infobox is an implementation detail; many caves have coords but no infobox, for example. I'm content that marking geo-locatable articles with {{coord missing}} is a de facto standard for wikipedia, one for which US caves does not, to my knowledge, have consensus to duck. I understand that you would prefer I reverted to your preferred version, but you'll forgive me if I dissent on this occasion. Better that you settle the meta-discussion than keep nagging away at this thread. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- No you're wrong. Currently, the cave infobox has no coordinate field. The UK cave infobox was made to add a coordinate field. Hence the discussion at that page. Please review your analysis. Leitmotiv (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- The meta-discussion is whether or not caves should have coordinates. Whether they're in the infobox or not is a detail. You're pushing your POV, which is fine on talk pages but not in article space. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
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New article - Matt HillHi Tagishsimon. Thanks for reviewing the new article, on Matt Hill (CEO). Apologies on the name confusion between various Matt Hills, I was not sure how to submit a title for a new article to do that.
Can I add the title 'film maker' to the new article's title, to make it 'Matt Hill (CEO/Film maker)'? and change the existing |
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I appreciate your message to me, alerting me to events happening in community, a proposal that seems to me to be against the purpose of wikipedia, which would adversely affect the wikipedia work I have done. rkmlai (talk) 16:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC) |
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- Hi, Tagishsimon. Just in response to this request. I tend to agree with talk) 21:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- cheers, that's much appreciated. :) talk) 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Thanks for the copyedit and suggestions, I'll do some more work on it over the weekend. talk) 18:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)]
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Well, I've had problems with this in several other articles I have written on the Rhodesian Bush War and people involved in it. The description I gave above, which you quoted, is more or less what I have settled on as a neutral description of it in several other articles. I am sure you will agree it is more neutral than the alternatives I have seen other editors produce, which typically include numerous misspellings, refer to the guerrillas as "freedom fighters" and to the Rhodesian government as an "apartheid-style régime", or similar. That may be the point of view of some people, but it is not neutral by any stretch of the imagination. "Guerrillas" is a neutral term, the fighters in question did profess communist ideologies (I will expand on this later), and their aim was to overthrow the government and introduce majority rule by force: whether or not they were justified in doing so is another matter, but even if you agree with their attempting to do so you cannot deny that it was a forcible act, and they were attempting to topple the incumbent administration. If the war was truly only about universal suffrage, then it is a mystery why it continued for a year after fully-inclusive elections were held in 1979 following the Internal Settlement between the government and non-combatant nationalist parties (albeit, in practice, the elections were largely segregated: those who qualified on the pre-1979 "A" roll, which was almost entirely white, voted separately. However, including all races the election drew a turnout of about 65% if my memory serves. Because ZANU and ZAPU boycotted it the UN damned it as a "sham").
- I said earlier I would come back to the communist ideologies of the two militant parties, so here we are. I am surprised that the Wikipedia articles on ZANLA, ZANU, ZIPRA and ZAPU do not mention communism, as both of the parties were Marxist by their own account (Chinese-aligned in the case of ZANU–ZANLA, and Warsaw Pact in the case of ZAPU–ZIPRA). They both announced their intention to form a one-party communist state on their respective foundations in the early 1960s (ZANU coming later, as it was originally a splinter group from ZAPU). I have given one of ZANU's "chimurenga war communiqués" as a reference in quite a few places, including here; the document starts by describing the war as a "revolutionary drive to eliminate settler oppression, imperialism and capitalism" and continues in a similar vein. Both ZANLA and ZIPRA cadres were trained on extended courses in the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba and so on, and particularly in ZIPRA's case actually had Warsaw Pact advisors with them in Zambia, training a conventional-style army for a potential invasion (which never happened). ZANLA's cap badge was a red star, while ZIPRA's was the hammer and sickle. Interestingly, even though modern Zimbabwe has moved away from this path somewhat, it retains the term "comrade" as a legacy of the war: "comrade" was the term of address for guerrilla fighters from both ZANLA and ZIPRA whilst in the field, as well as the title given to members of each party. When they attended political conferences and so forth, they did so as "Cde. Robert Mugabe", "Cde. Enos Nkala" and so forth (see Global Automakers remains in disarray, tagged, and now abandoned; one of these days I'll get back to it, but for now I've moved on to other projects.
Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Anyhow, the real reason I'm writing is invite you (again, I just noticed you were invited early on) to WikiProject Cooperation. These are the folks who helped with Cracker Barrel, and the whole concept is to provide a safe harbor for COI editors to make requests and propose changes—like COI/N, but without the presumption of guilt, one might say. It's had some good early momentum and new members steadily trickling in, but it could always use more. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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--Jenith (talk) 02:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
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--Jenith (talk) 04:12, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
More acid eaten paper part 5
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Jenith (talk) 03:41, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
More acid eaten paper part 7 - the end
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