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Thanks for you recent message regarding
I apreciate you have a put a *lot* of work into this article since it was nominated (see diff). I reccomend you go through the comments made and make absolutly sure they are addressed, and also check against
With regard to "not closing the discussion"... FL discussions aren't closed as such - they are just put in the relevant log file. I personally feel that discussions should be closed off in a manner similar to AfD, so that the closing editor can give a clear reason for their actions.
Lastly, please don't be put off by a failed nomination... you describe me as an "expert", but I've had at least half a dozen failed nominations to date.
Tompw (talk) 22:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I concur with Tompw. Closing as a failure was probably warranted considering the state of the discussion at the time. I still think there are improvements to be done (now that I look at it the way the images are formatted/placed is far from ideal, I think), and I'll see tomorrow if I can work on it.Circeus 21:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
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Because
Elin Nordegren
Point taken. Family probably does belong in the "Personal Information" section of the infobox. Offspring could fit in that as well. I removed it because I was afraid that adding the entire immediate family might be too long in some cases, but I suppose it does indeed belong there. Supertigerman 03:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Chicago Theater on DYK
Thank you for your contributions in expanding the article and for the nomination! — ERcheck (talk) 04:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- It is protocol to give a note to the article creator, nominator, and if it was a substantial expansion, to that editor as well. I did note that it was a collaborative effort, and since you were the nominator and I noted that you had done a substantial amount of the expanding, I left you the note as well. I hope you will share this with the group. At your suggestion/request, I've left a note on ChicagoPimp's talk page as well. — ERcheck (talk) 05:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Soup cans
Thanks for the invite. Not sure if I'm quite up to the challenge at the moment! Tyrenius 04:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hull House
Looks nice. I made some revisions, moved type around to make the paragraph more linear, but otherwise it seems fine to me. That's just one opinion, though. :-) TheQuandry 19:49, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Martial arts
Hey Tony, a friendly request. Since you seem to be a martial arts expert, do you know any good places around Hyde Park where I can take classes? I've walked by Fitzgerald's Martial Arts on 55th many times but he seems to only teach children, or at least I only ever see kids there. Ideally I'd like to sign up for something ongoing, like 2 or 3 nights a week, get some much needed exercise, have fun and learn something. TheQuandry 20:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, I forgot about Bally's. I'll stop in and see what they have. Thanks! TheQuandry 20:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Sheep
Ah, great find! I saw a different picture of those sheep someplace once but could never remember where. Kind of a shame they're gone. TheQuandry 04:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Beatles misc.
Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/The Beatles' miscellanea. --kingboyk 21:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism?!
It is a fact that he appeared in a 2000 video for a party, with Rudy Giuliani, the latter being in drag. This is a fact.
What, precisely are the grounds for the vandalism charge?? Arbol25 03:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Prairie Avenue
Thanks for your comments on my talk page regarding using Template:Cite web; I didn't know about that template and found it very useful. I've made the changes you requested to the Prairie Avenue page as well--and thanks for your contributions! - Varmaa 14:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Campbell's Soup Cans FAC2
You were fairly vocal in FAC1 and have not chimed in on
- Two things: I've just returned from two weeks of travel, and have two more weeks coming up, so I have to be careful not to get myself overcommitted on FAC. Second, my Support of that article would depend highly on resolution of the Fair Use issues. I don't speak Fair Use, so unless there is an endorsement from Jkelly, Peta, or someone who I know does understand Fair Use, I would be reluctant to Support. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Diarist - fine, no problem. Johnbod 20:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Other
I never said that drag-Rudy Giuliani was one of Donald Trump's wives. I put the note under the section, "Other." Arbol25 06:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
AfD
Why? 1ne 00:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- I had no opinion when I started the Afd, and I still don't. ^_^ The only thing important to me is keeping crap like "You're So Vain" out of it if it gets kept. JuJube 01:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- As much value as I think the article has, I voted weak delete because it quite simply goes against policy and has no references.--NPswimdude500 01:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Active unblock request on Archive 7
You might want to comment that out from your archives. Thanks. -- Netsnipe ► 16:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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I look forward to your reply. The Transhumanist 23:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Breaking
I had to check the history of my talk page to find you :).
Just add most, or japanese, or the majority of, to the sentence. RogueNinja 01:41, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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Citation
i found the info using Google without navigating through the CPD site. then, in terms of the reference, look at the Burnham Park reference and then break it down into three parts:
the name: ref name="ChicagoParkDistrict"
the citation: cite web|url=http://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/parks.detail/object_id/64E17E20-2CD6-4C0B-92CA-8DBA811B8CA3.cfm
misc info: |title=Chicago Park District|accessdate=March 13|accessyear=2007
whatever is entered for reference name should be used for later references is from the same page. the citations is url. misc info are details. whatever is entered for title is what appears in the reference or note section. using this reference style will add the a b c d for a reference and shorten the list at the end.
is this what you wanted to know? or other? —The preceding
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hello Tony, i forgot my password. could you please guide me? (my primary wikipedia is the Hebrew one) Tzahy.80.178.59.181 12:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
List featured
The
Washington Park photos
Sorry I haven't been around much, I just moved last weekend and am in the process of unpacking and dealing with getting utilities up and running, and I'm also going out of town on business this weekend. Coincidentally, I now live directly across the street from the DuSable Museum. As for swapping photos, I think the picture of the DuSable Museum would work well over at the neighborhood article, as well as the the distance shot of the Taft sculpture. By the way, I'm not sure if you've been by there lately, but they took down that ugly chainlink fence that was up around the Taft and cut out the grass/weeds, so it might be worthwhile to get a new photo. I can do that late next week if you like. TheQuandry 16:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Chicago Board of Trade building
Hi, I added a couple of references to
Campbell's Soup Cans FAC
Thanks for the typo fixes. It's a great article bty. Ceoil 20:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm working my way through the article to be honest, just haven't gotten to the last sections yet ;). When I'm done (and I'll try and finish up tonight) I'll register my support. It always surprises me there aren't more visual arts FA noms, which is why I was delighted to see your article put forward. I'll be putting a similar article forward in a month or two, though I'm slightly dismayed at the fair use issues you are having. Ceoil 20:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but the pattern has been that FACs with fair use issues have been extended out to allow editors resolve the issues - Smashing Pumpkins had similar concerns raised, and ran for almost a month. Ceoil20:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- Given how vague a person Warhol was, maybe the section heading "Message" is too obvious. Did he ever actually come out and say what his intended meaning was? I'm not sure what would be a better alternative heading, something along the lines of "interpretation", though thats not great either. Ceoil 21:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but the pattern has been that FACs with fair use issues have been extended out to allow editors resolve the issues -
Goings-on
Hi, the collaborations are transcluded to
Calahan
"I only need three" was meant to mean that if someone has "only" 500 GHits, I only need three of them if they are good references. I dont see GHits as having any relevance. An obscure Ming poet may be encyclopedic based on paper references only, and I may have 4,000 GHits but not be encyclopedic. Cheers. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 20:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Article of the day / Featured content
Hi Tony. I responded with some ideas about TFA on the
Stupid
First, we don't do these things by vote count (and if we did, the anon wouldn't have counted). Second, "stupid" is indeed not a reason, but it seems to me that the person who said that was simply trying to make a joke and really meant "per the above". More importantly, though, "being mentioned" doesn't count as external coverage. What matters is if they actually said something about the site. For instance, the mention at Foodnetwork is just an address in a list of many. The mention in Pcmag is also just a link in a web directory. What we're looking for in sites such as these is external coverage. For instance, this page lists sites that cover Wikipedia in actual news articles, as opposed to this list which shows sites which merely mention us. HTH! >Radiant< 09:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
DYK
--ALoan (Talk) 11:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Template talk:Oldafdmulti
Dear Tony, some time ago you made a suggestion on the talk page above, regarding the collapsibility of that template. Today I implemented a new function that allows the editors to specify the number of AfDs in the listing that show up collapsed. Can you have a look at it? Any comments are appreciated. Regards, --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 20:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment. With number choice, you mean the number of the "collapse" value, I assume. I just added a few examples to the documentation and I will clarify the description. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 21:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
My apologies. It must have slipped down my watchlist or something. I'll take a look now.
- Done. Thanks for letting me know. ShadowHalo23:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I do not have the time to make a proper appraisal of this right now, but good luck. Tyrenius 01:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Wonderbra
Hi, I shifted your recent addition of Madison Michelle in the Wonderbra article to a new list called
My concern about your username (TonyTheTiger)
Hello, TonyTheTiger, and thank you for contributing to Wikipedia!
I hope not to seem unfriendly or make you feel unwelcome, but I noticed your username, and am concerned that it might not meet Wikipedia's
Tony the Tiger is a coprighted mascot of the Kellogg company and could be seen as an edvertisement for, or endorsement of Kellogg products.
I'd appreciate learning your own views, for instance your reasons for wanting this particular name, and what alternative username you might accept that avoids raising this concern.
You have several options freely available to you:
- If you can relieve my concern through discussing it here, I can stop worrying about it.
- If the two of us can't agree here, we can ask for help through Wikipedia's requesting commentsfrom other Wikipedians. Admins usually abide by agreements reached through this process.
- If you decide to just go ahead and change your username, it is possible for you to keep your present contributions history under the new username: simply request a new name herefollowing the guidelines on that page, rather than creating a whole new account.
Let me reassure you that my writing here means I don't think your username is grossly, blatantly, or obviously inappropriate; such names get reported straight to
- Reason for wanting this particular name.
- See my bio that is a linked attachment to my signature. I am a prominent martial artist. That is essentially my performing name or stage name. If the commercial release of my video CD is successful, I hope to be notable enough to have my bio unuserfied within 6 months.
- I would be averse to surrendering this name. I would contest through every possible avenue before doing so.
- I have been known by the name Tony, have attended junior high school, senior high school and college at schools with Tiger mascots.
- As a prominent martial artist, the Tiger is a sacred animal to me. It represents stealth, grace, power, and ferocity.
- I have built up a lot of human capital with 11000 good edits under this name. This week, I earned my first WP:FA.
- Reading the page you cite, I believe the grounds you are contesting on would be applicable if my user name were Frosted Flakes. Not sure if it applies to Tony The Tiger.
- Alternative names
- El Tigre
- Brutus (which I think was my name for about 50 edits before I switched).
- Antonio Vernon
- Tony Vernon bio) 20:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- P.S. I chose bio) 20:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for replying so quickly. Your answers seem very reasonable so I would not wish to take it any further. Best wishes 4kinnel 20:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Miss Iraq
Hi seriously you guys delete my stuff and you dont delete claudia hanna, i think i should sue this website for false information
Claudia hanna Is not Miss Iraq and never took part in a Miss Iraq contest you may contact ABC news for the 2006 article
as for the pageants organized by Talat Models were pasted here so that people dont come up and ask by email inquiring about the pageant,
also your article regarding claudia Hanna is false
she was a runner up in MISS ARAB WORLD which is an unofficial pageant and the real organizers are available on www.missarabworld.com
Claudia won Miss Arab World when the initial winner was dethroned and Silva Sahagian is the official Miss Iraq 2006 after Tamar Goregian stepped down
you may contact the Pageant News Bureau and get the inside scoop from them.Mriraq 14:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am not sure why you are writing me.
Dear Sir,
I own the Talat Organization and the Talat Model Management and as i get hundreds of emails daily from people who want information on the pageants I organize I decided to place some information on this site to avoid having to send the profile every time, until my official websites are available I am afraid that I need to resort to this site and all I get is attacks from people like you. If you want this articles removed citing vanadlism you should contact me first. the tripod site was placed because Iraq is under seige by a terrorist government , webhost companies dont even want to host my sites and I operate outside of Iraqi territory. Obviously I cant hold a pageant in a war torn country that is why I also spend a fortune creating awarenss to have a UN backed partition plan. I am a caucasian Iraqi of Soviet descent and I want a free Iraq and I run my own political site at http://factsofiraq.tripod.com, while The activities of the Pageant winners is to serve an awareness as well, I have also been interviewed by abc news and you can confirm that with them.
Regards,
Ahmed Kadret
I inserted the links and corrected the information regarding Claudia Hanna, and I think you need to check on the Assyrians page as its full of misleading and false information. seriously those articles need to be deleted. I am trying to locate the Organizers of Miss Arab World, the unofficial ones and sue them for using MISS IRAQ, they should have used MISS ARAB WORLD-IRAQ as MISS IRAQ IS A REGISTERED TRADE MARK OF THE TALAT ORGANIZATION.
Thank you sir for informing me that I should insert links to back my article.
Regards, Ahmed Kadret I have no clue as to how I can insert photos otherwise I would surely add alot more
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I saw your recent FA proposal, I have an alternative that is simpler
The idea would be to chose a irrational number - say "pi" for example. Every day you move along the number, four digits at a time, until you get a number between 1 and c.1300 - that number is the featured article for tomorrow, which gives everyone time to clean it up
You then make a long list in alphabetical order including all the FAs, like this: 1 Abacus 2 Aborigine 3 Animal ..... 1298 Zulu This could be done with the # symbol. So every day, when new FAs are chosen they are added to the list in the proper place. This would continually shuffle the list, so although you could predict the number for a day months in advance - you could never predict the FA that would be in that position. This makes the process entirely transparent and fair.
That is the whole system. But if people want there can be a process for "override" say for the world cup or something, if a lot of users nominated it. If people are nervous that certain subject are over-represented in the FAs - then there can be a simple rule to precluded articles on the same subject being nominated within say a month of each other - but I don't see that as being necessary.
What do you thing? David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 13:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
FA proposal
I understand your proposal. It is interesting. I have three problems with it.
- What is your source for the infinite series of numbers in PI? I. E., when we are say 2800 places into the number how will we know what the next digits are?
- Personally, I prefer a selective process over a random one. Recall that all articles can be evaluated on both a quality and a priority scale. (See for example the bio) 14:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- Pi (and all irrational numbers) have an infinate number of digits, we know pie to about 2billion placed, so ever though we will need about 20 digits a day, that should last us ... oh, for a while!
- The problem with a selective process is that it would be a train-wreck, with every "owner" od every featured article fighting every day.
- A random process is thus the only alternative to the benevolent dictatorship of Raul. And also has a number of corrolary benefits.
- I wondered this myself - why do FAs always have to be thousands of words - on some minor subjects 200 is plenty - but these can never become featured articles. So really the whole featured article thing is broken. All the FAs I have ever checked have be front page material. This needs clarifcation, but this is a seperate issue.
I am glad you are interested in my proposal. David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 18:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- I like your proposal too. However it would require a lot of work, a lot of control, and cause a lot of debate every day. I also think that it would compound the systematic bias in wikipedia. Think about it - if a bias leads to overrepresentation of certain fields (pokemon say), then that same bias is going to carry up to the next level and select those same ones again. So random solves all this. here are the first 2 million digits of pi, (big page), we dont need to know what the xth digit is, we simply work along from the beggining, crossing a few out each day - it would take 10 second a day. David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 19:36, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah but you give a false comparison. All the FAa are hot smart girls. And Raul is some guy. Now, if you had the choice to either have "some guy" assign you a wife, or to have a random one from the pool of hot smart girls, and no other choice what would you choose? I like all the FAx. You might say that they're grrrrrrrrreeeaaaaat! David Spart (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 20:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
FA
Congrats... Tyrenius 23:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- Also wanted to add my respect on getting that Campbell's Soup Cans article to FA status. We need many more such efforts on art-related articles. Someday I'll get a visual arts collabo going. Keep up the great work!
--Planetneutral talk 23:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC) - Very cool. I hope i was more of a help than an impediment! Congratulations on your exemplary work.
--Jerzy•t 20:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, well done! As PN says, there aren't enough visual arts FAs Johnbod 23:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Discussion?
I thought you might be interested in the discussion I started at Wikipedia Talk:Overcategorization#Categorising by national descent, origin, nationality, etc.. Please feel free to let others know. --Vbd (talk) 14:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
RFA
You mentioned trying again for adminship soon. When you do, drop me a note on my talk page, and I'll likely support. I still disagree with your proposal, but I am impressed by the fact that you put a lot of effort into it, discussed it civilly, accepted its failure, rewrote it, and are again discussing politely with the opposers. That's something I want in an admin.
By the way, I found your last RfA where you were asking about admins of color. As you can see from the picture on my user page, I'm kind of brown with pink and white bits. :^) --AnonEMouse (squeak) 16:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, is there any way to prove that it was taken before 1923?
- Well, if we don't know the original author or when it was taken, that's pretty important source information. I wonder if maybe someone at ShadowHalo00:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Re: talk page
It's pretty explicit in the fact that the criteria are for evaluating an article, of which the talk page is not a part. We don't have "featured talk pages", any more than we have "featured peer reviews" or "featured deletion nominations"; and the existence and structure of each of those doesn't affect the article one bit. Kirill Lokshin 16:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Re: Featured Topic Viability
Each member article needs to be well referenced and, if reasonably possible, GA length. I can't really judge those four articles as a topic because I'm not sure what your topic name is and what the lead article would be. In the