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Bah, just wrote out a reply and then noticed this edit. That one is correct! Dpmuk (talk) 15:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Shoe Goo

Hi there.

You missed the line, I reckon: "In 1988, Eclectic Products was sold to the Willamette Valley Company, which moved the base of operations to Eugene, Oregon.[3]"

best, Carrite (talk) 03:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Volkoff Industries

No problem. The Volkoff Industries section on List of Chuck characters was really piling up, so I created the article modeled after the ones for Fulrcum and the Ring. --Boycool (talk) 22:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jewellery

is British. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jewellery . Though I agree you're right to change it to jewelry in an article about an American company, especially given that it's spelled that way in their name.Soap 21:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hosni Mubarak article

Replied on my Talk page. Sorry to put you to trouble. Vernon White . . . Talk 22:27, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response on my talk page. Looks from your Userpage that we share several interests in common. Vernon White . . . Talk 08:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Census results

Hello. Sorry for the delay. As far as this particular list is concerned, the 2010 census results are being released on a state-by-state basis, unlike previous censuses, when the results were released all at once, mainly by geographical hierarchy. (Personally, I wish it was released that way, so that the article could be updated as soon as possible) As far as the article is concerned, for consistency purposes, everyone should wait until all of the results are released for the list to be updated and also to avoid confusion about exactly which city ranks where. Check this page for the states that were released so far. Hope this answers your question. Cheers and happy editing. --Moreau36--Discuss 03:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, go right ahead. --Moreau36--Discuss 18:05, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

re Theme From Exodus

Unfortunately, there is no way to know for sure. This is because even original sources themselves are sloppy with song titles. I get the impression in a lot of these cases that the people typing up the original text used to print liner notes and record labels are like "Wait, what was the name of that song again? Wasn't it something like....?".

Now, I was raised to believe that if a movie has a theme, the theme is is the theme from that movie, not of that movie. And we weren't allowed to play with kids from "of that movie" families. But of course that doesn't prove anything. So what do the sources say?

Well, here Ernest Gold (or his copyist) calls it "Theme Of Exodus". And Gold should know, since he wrote it, right?

Not necessarily. Otto Preminger is allowed to retitle it when he uses it, and so are F & T I suppose. Moving on, Here it's "Theme From Exodus". Here, the immortal Mantovini avoids the entire issue with "Exodus - Main Theme". here they go with "Theme from Exodus" (Note the lack of capitalization of the middle word). Here it's "Theme From Exodus" - or is it? That's just the title of the album, not necessarily the song on the album. So what does Eddie Harris say? After all, Harris is man with a tenor saxophone and an orchestra. He says: "The Theme From Exodus". But again, that's just the album title, not necessarily the track title. This is as far as I searched. As far as I know, there's a punk band somewhere that titled their version "Two Pustulent Warthogs Fighting Over A Decayed Rutabaga (Theme From Exodus)".

Well, what do F & T say? here Ferranted & Teicher's copyist decides it's "Exodus (Theme From Otto Preminger's 'Exodus')". Are the parentheses part of the title? Usually parenthisized phrases are considered part of the song title, but here they just may be an explanation for the customer.

But wait. There's this, where F & T use "Theme from 'Exodus'" (no capitalization of the middle word, and "Exodus" is in quotes).

So I dunno. I would say that the song doesn't have one, single, generally agreed-upon title that is universally used. I, personally, would go with "Theme From Exodus". But as I said, I'm a "Theme From..." person generally.

So I'm not sure what to do. Herostratus (talk) 02:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Herostratus (talk) 22:03, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

Hello, Vchimp. Re this at the Village Pump: I don't know what the technical issue was (and thus am not commenting there), but after several alarming glitches years ago I grew wary of not having a backup for work that would be tedious to recreate. So I usually compose lengthy things, whether article contributions or talk posts, off-wiki, and I always save them off-wiki before clicking the Save button. It really isn't cumbersome—just a little copy and paste—and it has saved me a lot of grief. Fwiw. Rivertorch (talk) 23:38, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I could do that, I guess, but I don't generally think about it. It wasn't a great deal of work.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 16:27, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sendai Earthquake

Hi, since you left me a message as a reply to another user's post, I'll point you to the reply I left him since hopefully that will help explain my editing stance on this article: User_talk:Rmhermen#Sendai_earthquake. Please feel free to reply back on my talk page. –flodded(gripe) 22:29, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brittany/Santana Relationship

I saw you undid my edit to Santana Lopez regarding significant others, and left me a message telling me it had been agreed upon not to change it. I'm not sure if you realised, but as you directed me to, I have been discussing the issue over at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television/Glee_task_force#Significant_others where others agreed that Santana/Brittany should be considered sig others, nobody raised an objection to it and I told them there that I was going to go ahead and put them back on each others list. Nobody objected to that statement so I assumed everything was ok. Somebody else had already reversed your undo of my edit by the time I saw the message but I thought I would try to clear up any possible confusion anyway. 79.97.151.233 (talk) 19:05, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be the person responsible for the current appearance of the four colors C, M, Y and K in this article. I really don't think the blue in this illustration looks green enough to be cyan. If you look here you'll see what I mean.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 15:59, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have you ever tried printing a 100% cyan on a CMYK printer? The color used in the diagram comes from numbers straight out a standard CMYK color profile. –jacobolus (t) 20:06, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have to admit I haven't, and I read what it said, but I have a difficult time believing it. I wanted to see what the actual color looked like onscreen, but Wikipedia apparently won't do that. I have to settle for those dots or squares in my newspaper.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The color shown in the diagram is about as close to the "actual color" as you can get on a computer display. I'm not sure what you mean by “Wikipedia won’t do that.” The “web color” “cyan” has nothing to do with the printing color, and only shares the name because whoever originally assigned names for web colors was horribly sloppy about it. –jacobolus (t) 10:07, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
When I say "Wikipedia won't do that" I mean a computer display. And the "actual color" is shown in that linkabove, on Wapcaplet's talk page. At least according to the article I got it from. I put them side by side for comparison. Actually, Wapcaplet's interpretation was completley diofferent.18:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions ·
We’re talking about this image, right? [to the right] It has the correct colors. This is as about as good as an sRGB display can show process cyan. –jacobolus (t) 19:28, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But isn't this infobox supposed to be the same?Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:40, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They are quite similar. Feel free to change the infobox if you want though. The source given doesn't remotely live up to
WP:RS, and gives no explanation of how the coordinates were arrived at as far as I can tell. –jacobolus (t) 19:47, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply
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No thanks. What I'll do is go to a library that I know has color printing and see if they'll print out the two images for me. If one looks like the cyan in the newspaper, that'll settle it. But there's no way that CMYK box has cyan in it. It's not the least bit green.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:52, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Some landmarks shown on a plot of hue vs. value in the Munsell color system
That won't work. These are RGB images, and the printer won’t print them using purely its cyan ink. In any event, you’re confused about what “cyan” means. It doesn’t mean anything like “halfway between blue and green”, etc. What it means is “the greenish-blue color of ink used in a 4-color printing process.” Every particular printer is going to have its own “cyan” color, depending on what the chemistry is of the ink it uses. This picture to the right might be helpful. –jacobolus (t) 21:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I knew what cyan meant. What I didn't know is what specific color it was. I thought the color that appears in the newspaper--on blue dot, one pink dot, one yellow dot and one black dot--was the same color used in all four-color printing processes, and that it would be a standard color that could appear onscreen. Now you're telling me each printer has its own.
Since I first asked you about this I have discovered the Talk:CMYK color model and that goes into unbelievable detail, which isn't helping either.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will say the illustration on the right is pretty.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So just to further explain the illustration, the triangle at high lightness and right about at what might be called “blue–green” hue is the sRGB color (0% red, 100% green, 100% blue), which is the web color “cyan”, but this color is not really that close to the middle-lightness “greenish-blue” hue plus sign, square, and "x" symbols, which represent the cyan ink from three of the most common CMYK standard color profiles. As you can see, the CMYK cyan is quite different from the RGB “cyan”. Personally, I think any color in that “greenish blue” hue region (labeled gB) could be somewhat reasonably called “cyan”, but when I hear the word “cyan” I first think of the colors clustered around those CMYK ink colors. –jacobolus (t) 21:58, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clark

People have attempted to add stuff, but I get tired of having to go in and put in all of the citations for the information they are adding. So, I've gottent to the point that I'm exercising

this policy and removing unsourced info on the spot. Everything else is sourced, and it's clear that it is, so I don't know why all of these IPs and newly registered users are missing that. I've been meaning to go in and put season 10 info but I haven't gotten around to it. If you've seen the season you can put it in, just make sure the right episodes are cited for the info.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Oh...I thought you were talking about updating in general cause there is no season 10 info in the plot section. As for whether he actually "wore" the suit, he didn't wear the whole thing. The only thing I've gathered from a few random sources was that it was never their intention to really show "Superman" (i.e. Tom Welling in full costume) because that defeated the purpose of the show, which was to lead up to that. I think all that Welling did (and this is just personal observation, nothing sourced) was wear the top part of the costume. The cape was CGI, and all full shot scenes are completely CGI. The shot of him at the plane window is really Welling, but the cape is CGI while he is wearing the blue top to the costume. Plus, the final shot he is clearly wearing the top of the costume (though again, no cape).  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 21:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Greek austerity measures

Hi, thanks for your message. I don't really see how the Gasoline and diesel usage and pricing article relates to the Greek austerity measures. From what I know only one clause relates to gasoline and diesel, and that is to equate petroleum prices for use in the home (heating etc) and prices at the gas stations. Of course I could be wrong, I've not really read the measures themselves. However I do know that the bulk of measures are tax increases (again) and so I believe the best place for this would be the Economy of Greece article, in the financial crisis section. --

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Mr. Monk and the Leper

Thanks for your message. The plot shouldn't really be that long, but compared to many of the other Monk articles, which are waaaay over long, this one is brief As for the trivia, some of it could go back in, if cited. The chief problem this article shared with a lot of the other Monk articles is the sections contained extreme trivia that could only have been compiled through a pretty obsessive fan carefully combing through the episode scene by scene. That's ok on a fansite, but on Wikipedia it's

original research. Wikipedia isn't the place to record one fan's analysis of each episode. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 08:44, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply
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It is supposed to be a looping GIF, but apparently does not loop any more. I haven't been on Wikipedia for two years so I don't know why it's not working :/ --MPD T / C 18:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely no idea, but I'll take a look at it sometime soon (or outsource that) after I get settled back in. It was working before; the fact that it's not is probably due to some changes on WP's end. Just a guess. --MPD T / C 18:04, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey. The problem with the Riggs Bank section I removed (about Equatorial Guinea) is that did not contain a single citation. I will remove it again and with this reason the page's talk section. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratfinx (talkcontribs) 14:16, 1 September 2011 (UTC) --97.102.151.198 (talk) 14:29, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi -- my reason for changing that particular entry on the disambiguation page was probably based at least in part on my personal taste rather than on any guideline. I guess my thinking was that users are more likely to be looking for "Click and Clack" rather than just "Click", so if they did for some reason search for just "Click", we might as well send them to "Click and Clack" (which, at least currently, redirects to Car Talk). If they did search for "Click", would they be better served by going to the page that talks about Click as a radio host, as they would have if they'd searched for "Click and Clack", or would they be better served by going to the page that talks about the real life of Tom (or Ray) Magliozzi? I would probably vote for the former option, especially if there's ambiguity about whether Click actually is Tom or Ray. But I can see the argument for just linking directly from the dab page to Tom/Ray's article, and if you still wanted to change it back I wouldn't object. Theoldsparkle (talk) 14:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for taking a look! I tried to keep as much of the original content in the article as possible, but some was hard to source. I'll take your advice and try to find a couple more people to read through it. Ordwayen (talk) 20:49, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hamp

Thanks for your message, Hamp in Somerset is really a suburb on the southern outskirts of Bridgwater, although it falls within the North Petherton civil parish. It elects councillors to Bridgwater Town council and is mentioned in that article. I wouldn't have any objection to "Hamp" pointing at the dab page HAMP (disambiguation) but perhaps that should be titled without the capitals. Why not put a note on the talk pages of the North Petherton & Bridgwater articles to see if anyone else would object.— Rod talk 20:26, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Midas

Hello. I know there's a wide variety of opinion on these "cultural reference" types of section but my reading of WP principles is that in order for it to be included there should an in depth discussion from a reliable source about the incident (Midas appearing in Once Upon a Time) that provides context and commentary. At the very least there should be a mention of it from a reliable source before including it. Anything less looks like original research to me. All this especially with something as ubiquitous as Midas which I'm sure has been mentioned/used in thousands if not tens of thousands of books, TV shows, films, poems, dances, songs, etc. throughout history. Listing every single instance of this (without the critical commentary) would probably overrun WP's servers. SQGibbon (talk) 17:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]