User talk:Waferpedia

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Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Howie Hawkins. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. DemonDays64 (talk) 06:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was not adding promotional material. The videos I posted links to were created by the political campaigns and examples of the political platforms of the politicians involved. Secondly, if you are going to delete anything deemed promotional, you should also delete the links to the campaign websites as well. The campaign websites of the politicians are also promoting the political platforms which can be deemed promotional. Please also use more polite terms when communicating with other people and do not accuse people of promoting any agenda. I am not a member or any said political party. Waferpedia (talk) 17:59, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What those users said was perfectly polite and saying otherwise is nonsense. Also, people tend to post such messages via automated templates so they include an informal wider variety of relevant reading, which should all be read before attempting to contribute to a public resource. In this case, the point is that the official website is sufficient, the rest are redundant, and you should read

WP:NOTDIR and many other articles in depth. Wikipedia is not a directory of indiscriminate links, but a source of identifying the subject so that the user can go from there. The overwhelming majority of your contributions were trivial and unencyclopedic, and have been reverted at the waste of the time of many other volunteers. You have been corrected, so learn from it. Thank you for learning what an encyclopedia is and how to contribute before attempting to do so. — Smuckola(talk) 19:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply

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Trivial is in the eye of the beholder. If everything trivial was to be deleted, wikipedia would seek to exist. Wikipedia is reservoir of information. I posted links related to and created with the authority of the politicians who were listed. The information which I posted was not indiscriminate. I wish you would refrain from calling other people's writing "nonsense." You are perpetuating a form of bullying through the use hurtful terms to prove a point. Right or wrong, I never insulted anybody's viewpoints. There is an utter witch hunt and mob mentality against me for simply expanding the information listings of a topic. All topics and links I have listed were all created by the politicians themselves. I am deeply traumatized by being accused of soapboxing or posting nonsense. If you consider the content of the links I posted nonsense, why not simply delete the entire politicians wiki page and consider them spammers, because the content came from them. Waferpedia (talk) 20:23, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Waferpedia, I am trying to comprehend what you are trying to say. "The videos I posted links to were created by the political campaigns and examples of the political platforms of the politicians involved"--yes, that is pretty much the definition of promotional material, which you added to their articles. So, no matter how much time you spent arguing that somehow everything here is promotional unless your additions are not promotional, you will need to adhere to our guidelines, which
  Tartan357 has outlined pretty well, and others before them. I just saw your post on Masem's talk page--Masem is an experienced administrator and I doubt they'll have a different opinion from what you've already seen on this very talk page. So please, follow the guidelines--or you will find your tenure here cut short. Drmies (talk) 00:48, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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• • I'll reply here but I agree with Drmies and the above. Simple inclusion of campaign video without any other purpose is being promotional and effectively helping to their campaign. A campaign video that is the subject of discussion under the principles of
    non-free content may be acceptable, but we'd be including that for purposes of illustation and try to avoid using it as a means of promotion. The uses I'm seeing are not of that sort. --Masem (t) 02:12, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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To MASEM, I recognize your response. I appreciate that you were able to give judgement of any mistaken protocol of posting links. However, my complaint is still unfinished because I deeply resent being ridiculed and getting accused of being a spammer or engaging in soapboxing. Secondly I also resent that another administrator intervened when I did not even seek them. The purpose of my complaint was because I felt I was being insulted, mobbed, and wrongly accused of being a spammer. MASEM was able to get the point across without accusations, insults, or ridicule. The other people whom I have complained about were disrespectful and used hurtful words. Drmies had no need to threaten that my "tenure would be cut short". Words can be just as hurtful as any forms of injustice. I still feel I was mobbed and intimidated by all the people I had filed complaints against. Instead of calling me a spammer or accusing me of soapboxing, they could have mentioned options to post videolinks in the proper way. I shall mention again, the people who I complained about abused their authority over whatever mistakes I made through ridiculing me and invalidation. I feel targeted by Smuckola and all the others. I do not want them to contact me ever again and I feel they should apologize for using weaponized language. Ordinary society has just as many protocols as wikipedia does, but Smuckola, Drmies,DemonDays64, Tartan357 had no sense of tact or being civil towards me. Waferpedia (talk) 03:44, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have no quarrel with MASEM. I respect MASEM. The other people were quite disrespectful towards me. I still feel traumatized from their hurtful language and accusations. Waferpedia (talk) 03:47, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Waferpedia, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz Read! Talk! 03:00, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend the Teahouse as a friendly place to go with your questions.

But please know that every editor, no matter how long they have been editing, faces constructive criticism and can find their edits reverted. It's the nature of collaborative editing. If you are going to be traumatized every time you have a conflict with another editor, which happens to all of us, you will not find editing Wikipedia to be a pleasant activity. Disputes are part of working with other people who have different opinions so if you want to continue editing here, it's best to assume good faith and try to work with other editors instead of viewing their comments as an attack. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:32, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll second Liz in recommending the Teahouse as a place to go to get friendly help and advice. It's a place specifically set up to help newer editors understand how Wikipedia works. I'll also second her that we all face criticism here. It can feel uncomfortable at first, but approach it as well-intentioned helpful feedback provided as a way to help you learn to be a better editor. 99+% of the time, that's how it's meant. —valereee (talk) 15:55, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]