Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Beckham move to Los Angeles Galaxy (second nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. We can't transwiki to Wikinews, and there is otherwise a consensus to delete. --

David Beckham move to Los Angeles Galaxy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - (View log)

Individual moves are the subject matter for news articles, not encyclopedia articles. While the subject matter is clearly worth including in the article on

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Robotforaday 12:35, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• TransWiki to WikiNews. HornetMike 12:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note we can't transwiki to Wikinews (according to the main

afd page). Trebor 13:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply

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The reason being that Wikinews does not use the GFDL.--Dhartung | Talk 16:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• News item, not an encyclopaedia entry. Needs mentioning in other articles (David Beckham, LA Galaxy, Real Madrid for example) when it finally happens, but not a whole article for itself. Delete Emeraude 13:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Transwiki (if they don't already have a suitable article in Wikinews). It may be notable right now, but in 12 months time it'll be a distant memory and in 10 years nobody will care: ergo, it's a news item. Some of it may be suitable for Merge with David Beckham --John24601 13:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. It's not as if it's badly written; it's just completely pointless. As the nominator says, individual transfers are not encyclopedic. High profile transfers go on all the time in football, and this doesn't warrant special treatment. I'd suggest mergeing some of it with
  Stevefarrell 14:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete. Existing articles such as
  Major League Soccer 2007 season can handle this transfer just fine. As nom says, keeping this sets a dangerous precedent. – Elisson • T • C • 14:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete, do not merge. As well-written as this is, the articles it would be merged into already cover the event, and are also well-written. This is not an appropriate encyclopedia topic. Mangojuice^talk 15:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete without merge, the current reference on David Beckham is quite enough --Angelo 16:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Mangojuice since the Beckham article is has content about this already. --Howard the Duck 16:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above, covered sufficiently in other articles. --Dhartung | Talk 16:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete for all the other good reasons. Yeah, David Beckham is a good player, but Wikipedia doesn't need to follow his every move. PTO 18:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. I was waiting for this to come off the main page so that this could be nominated. Merge anything worth saying into a subheading in the David Beckham article, much like the Gretzky trade is amply covered in a subsection of the Wayne Gretzky article. Agent 86 18:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This is a news article, not an encyclopedic article. Cream147 18:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• TransWiki to WikiNews.--Revolutionfan 18:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • We can't do this. WN uses CC-BY, not the GFDL. --Rory096 18:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete,
  WP:NOT the sports page, no merge needed as Beckham's main article already covers this adequately. Seraphimblade 19:49, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply
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• Merge anything warranted into the main article if needed. Just H 19:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete/Merge if there's any good information here that's not yet in the other relevent pages (
  Los Angeles Galaxy) Cogswobble 21:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete/Merge s/b in bio article. TonyTheTiger 22:01, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge - I don't know how so many could support a delete of a such a well-referenced article. It should be merged into the appropriate articles. // Laughing Man 22:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. And Laughing Man, all the relevant information is already located in the appropriate articles so this is really just a duplication of information that is already properly located elsewhere. Furthermore, a 'vote' for merge is, at heart, also a vote for deletion since after content is merged, the article gets deleted. --The Way 00:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess if all the referenced information is other related articles go ahead with deletion -- I just thought it was a shame to let all the hard work go to waste initially. I do now notice that Soccer in the United States, David Beckham look like they have most the information. I would like to point out though that the Major League Soccer#MLS and foreign stars section is lacking with updated information. // Laughing Man 05:47, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename - Rename David Beckham in the United States or Los Angeles Galaxy in the 2007 MLS . This means that a lot of the information can stay and the article will not just be about the contract.--Hamedog_Talk|^@ 06:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't tell me we're also creating David and Victoria Beckham's marriage and David Beckham at Spain, too lol. --Howard the Duck 10:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into David Beckham as per existing suggstions; remove non-notable information and get rid of this article. Whilding87 12:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

delete but move page I moved it to Soccer in the United States anyway.Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC) Delete - this is of transient news interest, a brief mention in both the David Beckham and LA Galaxy articles suffices. This article takes it to unreal and un-needed depths. - fchd 17:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Someone has placed the contents of this article into the article Soccer in the United States so now more than half of that article discusses David Beckham signing with the LA Galaxy. This is not an appropriate means of saving this article, it would be nice if other editors would take a look at that article and maybe comment on its talk page... --The Way 17:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, unencyclopedic recentism, should have been written at Wikinews. --Rory096 18:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete.
  WP:NOT Wikinews. Sandstein 21:47, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete: This is not an encyclopedia article.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Transwiki to Wikinews and extract appropriate encyclopedic content which should be merged with David Beckham. QmunkE 12:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can't do the first part, as Wikinews is CC-BY, not GFDL. --Rory096 17:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• If we could, transwiki-(I know we can't) or rewrite at WikiNews. Merge actual encyclopedic content with the "David Beckham" page. This is a good bit of information, but it's the subject for New, not an encyclopedia. --tennisman ^{sign here!} 21:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Not an encyclopedia article.
  99 21:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep: I really don't see how anyone could say that this article is "pointless." I agree that only time will tell how historic this event is, but should it be deleted just because it may not be "historicall significant" in a number of years? This is certainly a topic that interests a large number of people throughout the world. There is an extremely large amount of money involved in the deal. It has demanded a great amount of media attention. I don't see how that is pointless. Cougs2000 18:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that this doesn't need its own article; all the relevant information can already be found (appropriately) in the

Los Angeles Galaxy articles. We don't need a separate article for information that is better placed elsewhere (ie. information in those articles is actually placed in a broader context). --The Way 06:02, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply

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• Keep Come on! It is developed into a very decent article.It is an important move for USA soccer in general, and I am very surprised that this is termed as an unencyclopedic news event! Before the Iraq war, who talked about Viet Nam?! By that logic, Viet Nam war articles were to be deleted. It shouldn't be merge as well, since I feel the article can stand on its own.Also, in the USA it has died down, but in UK and Europe I speculate with a high degree of certainty that sport shows are buzzing like when Gretzky got trade to LA. Wake up! This an important world sports issue.!! Mbralchenko 21:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the Wayne Gretzky move you refer to is perfectly adequately dealt with in the Wayne Gretzky article- just as this move can be perfectly adequately dealt with in the David Beckham article. Robotforaday 23:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This is news and has no encyclopedic value that couldn't be covered at the main Beckham article. Eusebeus 08:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into
  Collins ^Edits 10:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.