Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disengaging from an abuser using the no contact rule or grey rock method

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The result was delete. If any participants (or others) want a copy of the article to incorporate content into other (appropriate) articles, I can userfy or email you a copy. There seems to be clear consensus that this article, as it stands, violates WP:NOT. As an interesting note, there was something like 17 redirects pointing to this page, which I deleted. Wow. Killiondude (talk) 07:06, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disengaging from an abuser using the no contact rule or grey rock method

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This is a

how-to guide, not an encyclopedia article. Worse, it's a how-to guide giving advice on a mental health topic, which arguably makes it medical advice, something Wikipedia explicitly should not give. It may be possible to write separate encyclopedia articles about the "no contact rule" or the "grey rock method", but this page is not an encyclopedia article and cannot be turned into one. If someone has an idea what alternative outlet might be interested in this kind of content, moving it somewhere else before it's deleted here may be an option. Huon (talk) 01:13, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • Keep The only how to info is in the
    don't feed the trolls, keep your head down, keep a low profile and lie low concepts. The hoovering section is specifically an adjunct to cycle of abuse.--Penbat (talk) 08:12, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep Known medical techniques such as surgery, even psychological in nature, are encyclopedic. The fact that this is not strictly physical surgery does not exclude it from medical information. Psychological 'medicine' is most certainly of interest and not a how-to. Cirrus909 (talk) 02:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Woah. What? Psychological surgery? I hope you're not referring to psychic surgery. Are you suggesting that these self-help techniques are akin to surgery??? I don't understand what you're getting at with this comment. Apologies if I've misunderstood. Famousdog (c) 10:14, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unsure, renamed at the very least While no contact rule & grey rock method might be subjects to include on WP, redirecting them to this article as it stands does not seem correct as I'm sure you could use these concepts on other people as well as abusers. Mattg82 (talk) 20:26, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Relies on some pretty ropey self-helpy sources and lifestyle journalism. If these two techniques are so notable, they should have their own articles with much shorter titles. Famousdog (c) 10:09, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I proposed a move to
    π, ν) 23:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete. Every pop psychology self-help technique ever proposed, sourced to websites of questionable reliability like queenbeeing.com and lonerwolf.com, doesn't deserve an article in a serious encyclopedia. FireflySixtySeven (talk) 16:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per well explained nom. It is ridiculous that an article can be created, in clear violation of
    policy (not having self-help articles) (and others) on Wikipedia, and then the work involved in "possible" removal. Otr500 (talk
    )
Extra comments: We have comments to keep the article, I suppose just to "push the envelope", even offering "Rename to "Self-help advice" (or delete)". Three references each on both "concepts make it seem well referenced but is actually just
advertising to buy, as opposed to just editorials: lonerwolf.com; COMPLETE WORKS MEGA BUNDLE, so a person reading and identifying with the reference, would need to invoke some form of "grey rock technique" to avoid being sucked into the bundle offer. Otr500 (talk) 01:35, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
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