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The result was delete. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 11:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ideal team

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This seems like a list written as an article. In either case, it fails both

WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS about a neglected topic. Good faith discussions to salvage this article at Talk:Ideal team showed it would be worthwhile to continue the talk here at AfD. —Bagumba (talk) 06:55, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Delete Is this term
WP:FOUR) 07:44, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply
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The problem is that Dream team, All-star team, All-League, All-Time, and All-Decade, etc. have very specific meanings, but this article tries to group those different concepts together when no sources have ever done so.—Bagumba (talk) 07:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The problem is that I don't think a common all-encompassing term exists for this concept. I would agree that it's OR to decide to group these and title them in this way. As I said on the article talk page, I don't envision users looking for this page - certainly not with this name. Rikster2 (talk) 12:26, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 07:10, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 07:10, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 07:10, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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"All-Star team" typically refers to one that participates in an
WP:LSC can be met without some contrived, long-winded explanation that is never discussed in sources.—Bagumba (talk) 17:19, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Actually, "All-Star Team" have long had multiple uses. i.e.:
NHL All-Star Team, which is the concept that this article attempts to discuss. Baseball doesn't really have a parallel, choosing instead to create different teams for offence and defense. There is a loose fit there, but not precise. The San Diego Chargers' 50th anniversary team would fit the scope, imo, as it is a "mythical all-star team" (how the first NHL All-Star teams were described by the press), simply using a different time scale. (incidentally, "List of San Diego Chargers' 50th anniversary team"? That is some awful grammar!). I do get your point, however. There would be a challenge finding material that ties the overall concept together. Resolute 23:37, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Set index articles are appropriate for describing terms that have the same name, such as anything with "All-Star team" in it. Mixing in other teams that dont have "All-Star" in their name is inappropriate without reliable sources that discuss them together. As it is, there alreay exists articles for All-star and All-star game. The concept of an All-Star team should be mention in one of those, probably All-star, not with another standalone article.—Bagumba (talk) 00:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply
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— Note to closing admin:
XfD. —Bagumba (talk) 17:27, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply
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— Note to closing admin:
XfD and thinks it is silly to point out who created it to the closing admin, as if the comments made by the creator of the page should mean any less. --Paul McDonald (talk) 21:58, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Paul: The practice is standard per
WP:AVOIDCOI." {{Page creator}} specifically exists for this purpose.—Bagumba (talk) 23:42, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply
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  • I would suggest that "all-time" and "all-decade" teams are the same thing. The only difference is the time period the all-star team is being picked from. Dream Team is a different concept, however. Resolute 16:58, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not "trying to roll all of those together into one concept", because the concept is just one, as Resolute says. The article "doesn't explain how the "ideal team" concept started, it's history, or pro and cons arguments of such teams", I agree, so please expand it. I just began writing it, other Wikipedians can help to expand it. --NaBUru38 (talk) 14:46, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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