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This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Baseball. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.

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Archived discussions (starting from September 2007) may be found at:

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Many of the baseball-related deletion discussions center on questions of notability. In this case, the guideline

Articles for deletion

Ernie Smith (baseball, born 1931)

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Repeating my reasoning from 2021, but

Not notable. I cannot locate stats or a roster spot for this person on seamheads.com or cnlbr.org or baseball-reference.com. (B-R "Bullpen" [an open wiki] has an article created at the same time and same person that created this article.) The given source is an obit [1] that vaguely refers to playing on a Negro league team at some time. The given team ceased play in 1951 when the subject was 20, but as I stated, I cannot find any other source backing this up. (This palyer should not be confused with

• Note: This discussion has been included in the
  BX (talk) 01:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply
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• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Virginia and West Virginia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 01:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The article's one source (an obituary of the kind likely provided by the family to a local paper) claims he played for the Baltimore Elite Giants. A separate article in the Bristol Herald-Courier on his receipt of an award puts dates on it: "After he graduated from high school in 1949, he played baseball with the Bishop Stateliners, the Amonata Slugger and the West Virginia All-Stars from 1949 to 1951. Then he played for the Baltimore Elite Giants of the Negro National League until he joined the U.S. Marine Corps in 1953, where he also played shortstop for the 2nd Marine Division baseball team." However, this is not a possible sequence, since the
  WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:13, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply
  ]

New White Sox Stadium

New White Sox Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This is a good example of

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Baseball and Illinois. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep They are still in negotiations with the state of Illinois on the proposal along with the new Chicago Bears stadium. That's why they are categorized under Category:Proposed stadiums in the United States. If nothing becomes of this proposal, then the category on the page changes to Category:Unbuilt stadiums in the United States. That's the whole purpose of these categories... Roberto221 (talk) 18:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The existence of a category doesn't mean any subject that falls under that category gets its own Wikipedia page.

  WP:N is paramount, not categories. Angryapathy (talk) 18:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Braden Olthoff

Braden Olthoff (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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fails

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Baseball. Joeykai (talk) 21:00, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Subject meets the
  WP:SIGCOV at [[2]], [[3]], [[4]] and [[5]]. Let'srun (talk) 16:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply
  ]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'd like to see an evaluation of recently located sources, perhaps from the nominator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:39, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep, seems to be a lot of buzz about a pine-tar incident (not to the point of 1E, but a factor in considering one of the smaller publications above), but I'm convinced that the
  WP:THREE. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply
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• Comment to nominator:
  WP:JUSTNOTABLE sections. Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 05:27, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Jorge Calvo (baseball)

Jorge Calvo (baseball) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This does not meet the criteria for notability. A Google search yields no results outside of Baseball-Reference. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 03:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Baseball, and Mexico. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 03:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Found some brief mentions on newspapers.com such as [[6]] and [[7]], but not enough there to meet the GNG. I'd guess there is probably enough coverage in Mexico to meet the notability guidelines, though. Let'srun (talk) 11:44, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:57, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bernardo Calvo

Bernardo Calvo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This article does not meet the notability criteria. There are simply no references to him on the internet other than compendiums of baseball stats which include his name. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 03:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Baseball, and Mexico. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 03:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Found some routine coverage on newspapers.com such as [[8]] and [[9]], but nothing that is GNG worthy. However, it is quite possible that there are Mexican sources that could help this subject meet the notability guidelines. Let'srun (talk) 11:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:56, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cullen Large

Cullen Large (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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fails

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Baseball. Joeykai (talk) 00:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A very easy keep. This biography clears GNG and NSPORTS by more than a lot of sports bios I've seen here. There is

WP:SIRS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Note that Sportsnet is owned by Rogers Communications, which also owns the Toronto Blue Jays, the organization that had Large at the time that article was written. Let'srun (talk) 15:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: The subject meets
  WP:SIGCOV from multiple reliable sources. JTtheOG (talk) 01:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete I created this article as a redirect to Toronto Blue Jays minor league players, but I don't think Large is notable enough for a standalone article. The Baseball America reference is a general stat page that all minor league prospects have. In my opinion we only have 2 refs contributing towards notability in terms of SIGCOV (The Province & Sportsnet). If more SIGCOV is found I do think that the article should probably be kept. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The Baseball America link is an article, not a stats page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: This subject meets the
  WP:SIGCOV from Baseball America and The Province, which each provides in-depth coverage of the subject. Let'srun (talk) 15:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete never made the majors, coverage is sparse and routine. Non-notable minor league baseball player. SportingFlyer T·C 02:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisting comment: Procedural relist to rescue lost AfD
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