Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lice Waqailiti

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The result was keep. There was disagreement as to whether notability was met, and most users appeared to consider that it had. On balance, I believe there is a consensus for keep over any other outcome. If anyone disagrees with my close, please ping me on my talk page and I will undo the close and leave for an administrator.

(non-admin closure) MaxnaCarta (talk) 02:54, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Lice Waqailiti

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WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Oceania. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per sigcov in https://www.oceaniafootball.com/lice-leading-fijian-goalkeepers/, https://www.fijifootball.com.fj/waqalitis-new-journey/, https://fijisun.com.fj/2020/06/07/waqaliti-tells-dont-ever-give-up/, https://www.dailypost.vu/vanuatu_sports/ofc-goalkeeping-instructor-course-looks-to-the-future/article_70ffdae6-1167-11ea-b5cd-0353fa6a1e3c.html. Note that we appear to have misspelled her surname. pburka (talk) 18:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The oceaniafootball.com and fijifootball.com sources aren't independent of her. Dailypost is a mention which leaves the fijisun as the only half decent source. I struggled to find any other significant coverage of her. Dougal18 (talk) 14:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 18:53, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per sources above which show notability. GiantSnowman 18:57, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Besides the sources already provided, I found additional sources which show she is notable in Fiji: 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 among many many other sources. All the other Sports WikiProjects don't nearly have an article deleted per day, let alone 10, but why should any Sports WikiProject have 10 deleted per day? By the time I finish writing this, another ten will probably be deleted. Article may need improvement, but definitely not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep have added sources to the article. These were easy to find, and it would have been nice if the nominator had checked before nominating.--IdiotSavant (talk) 13:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I just don't see enough for GNG. The first two sources listed by pburka are not independent, number three listed by pburka is SIGCOV (so that's 1/2, as GNG requires multiple), but number four is just a brief mention (The only female participant, Lice Waqailiti from Fiji, has also hailed the positive impact of the course.). Then there's the sources listed by Das osmnezz: Fiji Sun is too short (Besides quotes, all content is Lice Waqaliti says the onus is on their squad members to prove their worth to be considered for the National Women’s football side ... The top Lautoka women’s team goal keeper and head coach was part of the 2007 Pacific Games National Women’s side which won a bronze medal ... Waqaliti who is originally from Vanua Levu added that discipline would be a vital factor. (and even if it was SIGCOV, all articles from the Sun only count as one source, so we're still at 1/2 for GNG)); Fiji Times only has one sentence that is not quotes on Waqailiti (Goalkeeper development officer Lice Waqaliti says the program was for both girls and boys.); the second Fiji Times article does not have enough on her to qualify (all non-quote content is FORMER Fiji women’s football rep Lice Waqaliti is training the Fiji team goalkeepers for the 2017 Pacific Mini Games which starts in Vanuatu next week ... Waqaliti has high hopes from the goalkeepers.); FBC News also appears too short to be SIGCOV (less than five sentences on her that are not quotes); and then the final source listed is another from FBC News, which says its source is the OFC, so not independent. I'm just not seeing enough for a GNG pass. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:40, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep There is significant coverage on the subject as posted above. I disagree with User:BeanieFan11's assessment of the sources as significant coverage appears to be shown across the Fiji Sun article and there are a few non-quote paragraphs in the lead of the first FBC post which provide just enough for it to be considered significant. Carson Wentz (talk) 14:47, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Coverage by multiple sources that lend notability, as noted above. RedBaron12 (talk) 19:54, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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