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The result was redirect to Poarch Band of Creek Indians. Liz Read! Talk! 06:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OWA (entertainment district)

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A search of sources fails to find

WP:GNG, could be merged to Poarch Band of Creek Indians if need be but don't see the benefit since the information is largely unsourced and has not attracted coverage. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Relisting comment: Still looking for a redirect target or were you considering Poarch Band of Creek Indians as well, MrsSnoozyTurtle?
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Comment - The OWA district was previously known as
al.com also covered it here, here, and in all of these other articles. The Pensacola News Journal also covered the opening of the Park at OWA here. I'm not going to !vote "keep" because the sourcing is pretty bad, and I do not have the time to improve it myself, but it's also clear that the article should not be deleted. – Epicgenius (talk) 20:40, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. There was disagreement as to whether notability was met, and most users appeared to consider that it had. On balance, I believe there is a consensus for keep over any other outcome. If anyone disagrees with my close, please ping me on my talk page and I will undo the close and leave for an administrator.

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Lice Waqailiti

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Fails

WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep per sigcov in https://www.oceaniafootball.com/lice-leading-fijian-goalkeepers/, https://www.fijifootball.com.fj/waqalitis-new-journey/, https://fijisun.com.fj/2020/06/07/waqaliti-tells-dont-ever-give-up/, https://www.dailypost.vu/vanuatu_sports/ofc-goalkeeping-instructor-course-looks-to-the-future/article_70ffdae6-1167-11ea-b5cd-0353fa6a1e3c.html. Note that we appear to have misspelled her surname. pburka (talk) 18:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The oceaniafootball.com and fijifootball.com sources aren't independent of her. Dailypost is a mention which leaves the fijisun as the only half decent source. I struggled to find any other significant coverage of her. Dougal18 (talk) 14:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep per sources above which show notability. GiantSnowman 18:57, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Besides the sources already provided, I found additional sources which show she is notable in Fiji: 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 among many many other sources. All the other Sports WikiProjects don't nearly have an article deleted per day, let alone 10, but why should any Sports WikiProject have 10 deleted per day? By the time I finish writing this, another ten will probably be deleted. Article may need improvement, but definitely not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep have added sources to the article. These were easy to find, and it would have been nice if the nominator had checked before nominating.--IdiotSavant (talk) 13:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I just don't see enough for GNG. The first two sources listed by pburka are not independent, number three listed by pburka is SIGCOV (so that's 1/2, as GNG requires multiple), but number four is just a brief mention (The only female participant, Lice Waqailiti from Fiji, has also hailed the positive impact of the course.). Then there's the sources listed by Das osmnezz: Fiji Sun is too short (Besides quotes, all content is Lice Waqaliti says the onus is on their squad members to prove their worth to be considered for the National Women’s football side ... The top Lautoka women’s team goal keeper and head coach was part of the 2007 Pacific Games National Women’s side which won a bronze medal ... Waqaliti who is originally from Vanua Levu added that discipline would be a vital factor. (and even if it was SIGCOV, all articles from the Sun only count as one source, so we're still at 1/2 for GNG)); Fiji Times only has one sentence that is not quotes on Waqailiti (Goalkeeper development officer Lice Waqaliti says the program was for both girls and boys.); the second Fiji Times article does not have enough on her to qualify (all non-quote content is FORMER Fiji women’s football rep Lice Waqaliti is training the Fiji team goalkeepers for the 2017 Pacific Mini Games which starts in Vanuatu next week ... Waqaliti has high hopes from the goalkeepers.); FBC News also appears too short to be SIGCOV (less than five sentences on her that are not quotes); and then the final source listed is another from FBC News, which says its source is the OFC, so not independent. I'm just not seeing enough for a GNG pass. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:40, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep There is significant coverage on the subject as posted above. I disagree with User:BeanieFan11's assessment of the sources as significant coverage appears to be shown across the Fiji Sun article and there are a few non-quote paragraphs in the lead of the first FBC post which provide just enough for it to be considered significant. Carson Wentz (talk) 14:47, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Coverage by multiple sources that lend notability, as noted above. RedBaron12 (talk) 19:54, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Pseudoscience. Editors are welcome to improve an article that is part of an AFD discussion but do not move or change the status of an article while a discussion is ongoing. Liz Read! Talk! 07:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Parascience

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I believe this article should be deleted as it is based on a single cited author's idea of "parascience". Additionally, the examples on this page provide little distinction over what is pseudoscience and "parascience", using examples such as Ufology next to Philosophy. I think the dilemmas of using scientific theory within other well established and regarded disciplines outside the natural sciences, such as social science, should be left as discussions on their methodology pages. Looking at Google Scholar, "parascience" as a term returns back a poor collection of sources, when searched on other databases such as Scopus it only returns 15 published articles where "parascience" is used as a pseudonym for pseudoscience, not a distinct conceptualisation as this page is presenting it.

In my opinion this is a very good and clear article as a counterpoint to pseudoscience. This article brings some nuance and states that certain sciences can also be seen as parascience rather than pseudoscience. But that is my opinion. I don't know what others think about this? S. Perquin (talk) 15:06, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed the first sentence to the first sentence from the Dutch Wikipedia article. Sincerely, S. Perquin (talk) 15:11, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Msida Lions S.F.C.

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No evidence of notability. An Internet search yields no significant coverage that would meet the

WP:GNG requirements. JTtheOG (talk) 22:20, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:32, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Shapiro

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I do not believe this person is notable by our standards; the sourcing certainly gives no indication of that. Drmies (talk) 21:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete agree with nom, sounds like a linked in resume piece. The position held at Netflix sounds middle-management level, non-notable. Oaktree b (talk) 21:23, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. The sources in the article do not establish notability and I am unable to find significant coverage of this individual from multiple independent RS, so I am fairly confident that this individual fails
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:32, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac Ngoma

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Fails

WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:11, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:33, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Skatterbrane

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Non-notable company. Does not pass

WP:GNG. DelUsion23 (talk) 20:59, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:33, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Cook (footballer, born 1998)

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This footballer seems to have played, at maximum, in the Scottish fourth tier. Consequently, the only nontrivial coverage (not passing mentions or statistics) I'm finding is on the website of Berwick Rangers, as linked in the article – nothing else coming up in a search. Not sure if this is sufficient to satisfy

WP:GNG. Complex/Rational 20:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Harrington

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The subject of this biographical page does not appear to satisfy criteria for sufficient significance to be included in Wikipedia. Qflib, aka KeeYou Flib (talk) 20:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 21:44, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Nur Amin Malik

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Fails

WP:SPORTBASIC as well. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:32, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Armando Çili

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Stats stub that looks to fail

WP:GNG per my searches in Google News, DDG and ProQuest. The best that I can find is a passing mention in Panorama Sport which is not even close to significant coverage. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rayed Derbali

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Fails

WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:43, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kai Cenat

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other than some super puff pieces from huffpo, I don't see any actual in depth coverage in reliable sources of this Youtuber. There is nothing substantial to be found, in fact, the only coverage of him relates to a term he supposedly coined but that itself doesn't seem notable and neither does he. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:58, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I originally created the article under the assumption that his song "Bustdown Rollie Avalanche" would be the start of a notable music career and that the page would grow. However, he does not seem to have released any music since then, so idk how much more notable he will get. Overall, I don't have a strong opinion for or against page deletion. Liljimbo (talk) 18:10, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not create articles on the assumption that they will be notable. They need to be notable at the time of creation. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, I thought he was notable enough at the time to start an article. I will be more careful. Liljimbo (talk) 18:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Athletics at the 1972 Summer Olympics – Men's 400 metres#Heat 3. Liz Read! Talk! 21:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jean-Max Faustin

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Barebones stub which merely recites that Faustin was a Haitian sprinter who competed in the 1972 Olympics. Faustin was not remotely competitive in his event, finishing with the slowest time among all competitors in the 400 metres (almost 8 seconds slower than the winning times) and failing to qualify for the quarterfinals let alone the semifinals or finals. Fails all applicable criteria:

WP:NOLYMPICS (not a medalist). Cbl62 (talk) 16:54, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to Plane (esotericism). Liz Read! Talk! 21:41, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Divine plane

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This page is a tiny stub and has been since creation in 2008. There are no sources whatsoever. The subject matter appears to relate to Theosophy and anything on the matter of a divine plane can and should be fully contained within that article. There is nothing in this article that could be merged, so merge is inappropriate. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I agree with the nominator, also there is mention of the "divine plane" on the Plane (esotericism) [2] article. I am not sure why we have all these unsourced stubs for many of these "planes" when an article already describes such content. Psychologist Guy (talk) 17:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Plane (esotericism)#Divine plane - I am not finding any sources that would justify a separate article on this topic, as the sources I am finding that do discuss it are not ones that would generally be considered to be reliable. But, while I agree with the nominator that the complete lack of any sourced content would prevent a Merge, the fact that the subject is already covered in its own section in the article on a broader topic means that a Redirect would be preferable over straight deletion. Rorshacma (talk) 17:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. Speedy deleted by Jimfbleak, CSD G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 11:02, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kay Ken

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I can't find any significant coverage in

WP:NMUSICIAN. All sources currently used are user-generated so cannot support a notability claim. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:04, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Consensus for keep appears unanimous, with only a few hours left and no active discussions occurring I see fit to close this per SNOW - if anyone disagrees with me close ping me and I will undo and leave for an administrator.

(non-admin closure) MaxnaCarta (talk) 02:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Straight (magazine)

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Only source is the publisher himself. This[3] may be relevant either here or at Destroyer Magazine Doug Weller talk 15:51, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: It seems like there's a number of articles about Straight in some of the major Swedish newspapers, to be found in the Swedish media archive. I'll see if I can do something about this article in the next few days. /Julle (talk) 22:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. (This deletion discussion has been noted at Wikipediocracy.) I'll look here again to see whether Julle found anything, but the best source I found was this interview article in the tabloid Aftonbladet, which mentions it and confirms that it was started by QX (without naming the latter); however, it's mostly about Destroyer and Andersson. This 2012 English article in Out also merely mentions Straight in the context of Destroyer. There was also an interview article in Vice in 2012, and there's recent coverage of Andersson's projected PhD dissertation and a scholarly article that has been pulled by the publisher, including this article in the Daily Telegraph, and the Aftonbladet article provides a smidgen of biographical info, but I do not find sufficient biographical coverage to agree with the opinion expressed at Wikipediocracy that he himself has achieved notability, so I cannot advocate creating a BLP to which to redirect this. (The red link in our article was originally a link to the Karl Andersson disambiguation page; judging by their username the creator, Swekarl, has a conflict of interest with this Karl Andersson, so the red link should not be presumed to suggest notability.) Yngvadottir (talk) 23:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC) (Changed to Keep, see below)[reply]
    Yngvadottir: I've taken a (first?) stab at the article now. I don't think we should conflate it with Karl Andersson – the magazine was published for a few years, and he wasn't the only editor-in-chief throughout its life. I'm not sure I would advocate a re-direct to a BLP even if we had one. Anyway, I've found some articles in Svenska Dagbladet and Sydsvenskan (two of the major respected Swedish newspapers, SvD based in Stockholm and Sydsvenskan the dominating newspaper in southern Sweden) I think are far better sources than the ones listed in this AfD so far. They can be accessed through Retriever/Mediearkivet, but if one lacks access, I've described length and which role Straight plays in them below. /Julle (talk) 16:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment so it was published for 3 years by QX [4]. Dagens Nyheter has a snippet describing its scope [5] and here it is confirmed that the print is, similar to QX, at 30 000 copies. While the coverage on Straight is lacking, a merger to the publisher could be argued, but we don't have an article on "QX förlag". I'm not sure that a translation of the svwp article would survive AfD since it relies heavily on QX.se as a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draken Bowser (talk • contribs) 10:08, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Draken Bowser: Do you have access to Retriever/Mediearkivet? I've added a couple of significant articles as sources (as well as a few shorter ones). If not, I've tried to briefly explain why I think they show notability below, but if you've got access to Mediearkivet you can check them out yourself. /Julle (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I looked through kb.se, Aftonbladet, Expressen and DN. So I overlooked the coverage in SvD. Maybe I should apply for access after all... Draken Bowser (talk) 17:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, the significant coverage is mainly in Svenska Dagbladet, who had a reporter who kept following the Swedish gay magazine scene in the late 90s and early 00s, and Sydsvenskan. I'd recommend applying for access – you can usually get a lot of things you can't get from kb.se if we're looking at the last 20–25 years. /Julle (talk) 18:37, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I have looked at the Swedish media archive, and I think there's enough here to meet our requirements. There are a whole bunch of shorter 300–400 word pieces, and I've used a couple of them as sources, but the best I think is the 900 word piece "Straight on! Karl Andersson tänker göra Sveriges kaxigaste bögtidning" in Svenska Dagbladet, focused entirely on Straight, from 29 October 1999, and "Tidningar utanför normen säljer", Sydsvenskan, 1750 words from 10 March 2001, where Straight is a significant part of the article. /Julle (talk) 15:57, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Julle Can you please add links to your sources? I couldn't find the first one I tried. Doug Weller talk 16:18, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Doug Weller: As far as I can tell, they aren't available online in a linkable way – few Swedish newspaper articles from the 90s or very early 00s are. I've been able to access them through w:sv:Mediearkivet. I'd link to them if I could do so in any meaningful way, but unless you've got access to the Swedish newspaper archive I'd recommend treating them like you would do with print sources. /Julle (talk) 16:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Changing my !vote based on extended coverage found in reliable sources by Julle (and used to expand the article). Assuming good faith that these sources are visible with appropriate on- or offline access. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the coverage in reliable sources seems sufficient. Draken Bowser (talk) 21:56, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, there is enough coverage. --Gilgul Kaful (talk) 08:04, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:39, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gyilkoló

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Non-notable film, lacking significant coverage by independent reliable sources per

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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Alyssa Yard

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Fails

WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Field hockey at the 2005 Maccabiah Games

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Fails

WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:59, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Also nominating:

Swimming at the 2005 Maccabiah Games (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Rugby union at the 2005 Maccabiah Games (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Football at the 2005 Maccabiah Games (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  • Delete all per my previous comments. We need better-developed articles instead of these thinly sliced intersections of an edition per sport. The literature does not support that. gidonb (talk) 11:19, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - does not merit separate articles. GiantSnowman 19:40, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all There is no need for separate articles for every event. Fats40boy11 (talk) 09:01, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete all except Mazraeh-ye Jonubi Rural District and Mazraeh-ye Shomali Rural District. Liz Read! Talk! 06:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mazraeh-ye Tahqiqati Tutun

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Fails

WP:ORG, however nothing even close to a notability pass for a business or other organisation is present. GEOnet Names Server is an unreliable source. The Iranian census counts people according to a local reference point, in this case a farm/research centre, meaning that this is not a legally-recognised populated place as such. The co-ordinates provided in the article (the source of which is not known) point to a random field on the outskirts of Urmia
.

Together with this article I am also nominating the following articles, all of which are Iranian "village" articles apparently created by Carlossuarez46, all of which include the words Mazraeh-ye, which apparently means "the farm of". These all appear to be potentially farms, often ones belonging to someone identified by name or to a numbered location, and as such are unlikely to be real villages. In some cases Carlossuarez46 appears to have realised that this is what they actually were and then redirected them to names that they made up by removing the "Mazraeh-ye" part of the name, but this hardly made things better. In a lot of cases, the articles have co-ordinates added to them apparently based on GEOnet Names Server data or GeoNames data, both of which are unreliable.

WP:GEOLAND
#1 pass.

Complete list of 129 other Carlossuarez46 articles about "villages" with "Mazraeh-ye" in the name
*Mazraeh-ye Yek

*Mazraeh-ye Jonubi Rural District

*Mazraeh-ye Shomali Rural District


Bundling is justified per

WP:BUNDLE
as these are spam/hoax articles created by the same author according to the same template.

Now that I've got AWB approval I plan to template all the articles in the list, but it may take me a day or two to do it so please have patience.

PS- you might think that 130 articles is a lot, but please remember that Carlossuarez46 was creating these articles at a rate of up to 100 or more per day so in reality this is still only dealing with their articles at a fraction of the rate they were created at. Deletion has to keep pace with mass-creation, otherwise we are allowing mass-creators to establish a

WP:BEFORE as to be proportionate to the original work that was done to confirm the notability of the article that was created, which in this case was zero, otherwise again we are simply permitting a fait-accompli. FOARP (talk) 14:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete per
    WP:V we should not have an article on a subject unless we have third-party reliable sources about it, and the burden of proof is on those seeking to retain the content. The Iranian census is not a reliable source for the existence of these places, as explained by the nominator, and none of the ones I looked at cited any source other than the GEOnet Names Server (which is also unreliable for the existence of places). Hut 8.5 17:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete all of the unverifiable geostubs created by this editor. Mccapra (talk) 21:01, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per established precedent, except
    WP:NGEO as the equivalent of a township. Rural districts should be assessed separately if it is suspected that they fail GNG. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Thanks
    WP:Before of both of them turned up nothing, but that’s probably not a surprise given their generic names. FOARP (talk) 07:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 15:00, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Central and South Norfolk League

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Local amateur football league that appears to exist way below the defined part of the

WP:FOOTYN
, in fact it's 6 tiers lower than where it would need to be to be presumed notable.

Google News contains a few hits all of which are single passing mentions of the league. ProQuest has a few results roundups and a few trivial mentions in local papers. I couldn't find anything useful on BNA. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:21, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Maynooth University#Publications. While there is no need to merge, nor consensus for this to remain as an article, there's no reason not to redirect it to where it's mentioned in case a reader is looking for information. Star Mississippi 01:35, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maynooth Philosophical Papers

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As part of cleaning up efforts to bring the article in line with our

WP:GNG
.

I could be convinced of merging to

b} 16:48, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete. Utterly insignificant, a mention at
    WP:GNG. --Randykitty (talk) 16:57, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Redirect to Maynooth University#Publications as an alternative to deletion. StAnselm (talk) 17:18, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I suggest keeping the entry. Although the journal is small, it does attract frequent citations from other scholars who are in no way connected with it. A quick check on Google Scholar indicates 28 citations just on the first page. A search in Google Books yields a similar positive result, i.e., numerous references. The journal is also of significance in the Irish context, as indicated by its mention in the Irish Times. It is internationally accessible through the database of the Philosophy Documentation Center. Wissembourg (talk) 12:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry, but "28 citations just on the first page" is quite frankly pitiable. Insofar as a negative can be proven, this proves lack of notability... --Randykitty (talk) 12:32, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This wouldn't make a scholar notable. Let alone an entire journal.
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  • Note: This article, in its current form, does not amount to much more than an entry in a list of philosophy journals. The information it contains is readily available elsewhere, for example, here and here. The original version of the entry went beyond this trivial kind of information by including quotations from the journal itself, to illustrate its purpose and contribution to Irish higher education. Unfortunately, an editor felt that this amounted to nothing more than "undue" "puffery." It might be worth considering the entry in its original form. Wissembourg (talk) 09:30, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please note that quotations from the journal itself (even if it would not be UNDUE puffery) do not contribute to notability. Of course, lengthy statements on the journal's "ethos" are UNDUE puffery and Headbomb was absolutely correct in removing that stuff. --Randykitty (talk) 11:48, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It should be pointed out that the nom deleted 55% of the article (which had perfectly valid sourcing per wikipedia policy) and then immediately nominated it for deletion. Wow. (!!!) XavierItzm (talk) 16:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing wasn't the issue for what was cut, relevance and puffery was the issue.
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:11, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Surrey & Hants Border Football League

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Local amateur football league that appears to exist outside of the

WP:FOOTYN
.

I've tried multiple searches under variations of the name and found this Google News search to be the best but its two trivial mentions. Likewise in ProQuest. BNA also only contains trivial local coverage. A results roundup in a small fraction of a column on one page of the Staines & Ashford News is hardly worthy of a Wikipedia article. I mean the local school fête and Easter egg hunt would take up a similar amount of space in such a paper and we'd never dream of writing an article about those! Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:11, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Zdravko Ponoš. Star Mississippi 01:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Serbia Center

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Serbia Centre is not notable as a movement at the moment, I'd say it fails

WP:GNG considering little amount of information about the movement currently exists. Reliable sources regarding the movement exist, although they only cover two announcements that Zdravko Ponoš made regarding the movement (this can be seen at his own page). Considering that it was created less than a month ago, I think that it is too early for this movement to get its own page. It can be re-created when it gets more media coverage, and national attention, and when it certainly gets more notable around the public. Vacant0 (talk) 09:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 13:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Golan-1000

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No reliable sources with more than passing coverage found. Most sources are either deprecated (Sputnik), or very questionable (like Al Manar, owned by the Hezbollah, or Pars Today, a state-owned Iranian website). Some

WP:SPS as well, but nothing reliable. BilletsMauves€500 12:57, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of Everest Premier League players

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WP:FANCRUFT lists such as this. Anyway, no independent sources outside wide ranging databases discuss this non-defining intersection of cricketer and league. wjematherplease leave a message... 10:49, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep but needs substantial editing, primarily to turn it into a proper alphabetical list and get rid of all the flags. I'm entirely happy to include lists like this - the EPL is a serious cricket league, there are no verifiability issues and the use of lists of player is a fairly standard thing across cricket articles. Sure, it's not an official T20 league yet, but it's still played in by people who have often played in those sorts of league (or internationally) and is the highest level of T20 cricket in Nepal I think. Unless I'm missing something significant? I'm not about to edit this to improve it until I know it's kept btw. Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Please could you address
    WP:NLIST concerns. For example, where are the independent, non-database sources that substantially discuss EPL players as a group? wjematherplease leave a message... 11:34, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
I don't think we'll get into the stats, so NOTDB doesn't seem to apply. Partial groups of players are discussed at a range of sources: here, here, [6], here, here, here, here, here, here and so on. That sort of discussion - who's playing, when, for whom etc... - seems enough for me to say this is OK as a standalone list as the group or set have been discussed. Haven't they? Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:26, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The list is simply raw data with little prospect of being anything else, so NOTDB absolutely applies. Announcements of individual players and squads (relevant to one year only) provide the required coverage to (content in) support season articles, but not complete lists of players throughout history. wjematherplease leave a message... 16:45, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Olawale Ayilara

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Solely notable for appearing in Forbes Africa (not the real Forbes or a subsidiary) 30 Under 30. No significant coverage save for interviews. Reading Beans (talk) 09:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Can't find anything meeting standards for both independence and SIGCOV requirements, either for the company or the person. Would argue that coverage of the company is even worse quality TBH. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:03, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Swapnali Gaikwad

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Non-notable singer with lack of coverage in

WP:SINGER.-- Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 09:54, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

i have submitted news article most authentic and organic news which covered hindustan times and times of India and more she have Creadiblity
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/city-student-teaches-indian-classical-music-to-students-across-the-globe/articleshow/92645418.cms
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/pune-news/online-classes-to-music-label-pune-student-hits-a-high-note-on-women-entrepreneurship-101656095124778.html
https://www.freepressjournal.in/mumbai/singer-swapnali-gaikwad-pays-tribute-to-veteran-singer-lata-mangeshkar-sets-a-new-world-record
https://www.hellomumbainews.com/hello_womeniya/taking-online-classes-to-owning-a-music-label-young-student-from-pune-swapnali-gaikwad-holds-the-bar-for-women-entrepreneurship/ Vishwajyot (talk) 11:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draft:Swapnali Gaikwad should also be deleted given the creators inclination toward ignoring instructions (repeatedly removing AFD) to prevent them moving it disruptively again. PRAXIDICAE🌈 12:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Praxidicae: we should give them a little rope/opportunity to work on the article. If they misuse, we can use G4. —usernamekiran (talk) 05:35, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    No, they clearly don't follow directions. PRAXIDICAE🌈 09:34, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete came here from her newly created
    general notability criteria as well. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Movement for the Confederation of the Communists

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Practically unknown communist organization, absent from the sources. It ran in the Italian general elections in 2001 in Tuscany, with poor results. It doesn't seem to meet

WP:GNG. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 09:08, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. There is plenty of sources and more than 700 Google Hits on this party, that deserves an article in Wikipedia. --Checco (talk) 18:40, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than using Google hits as the only reason for keeping the page (and indeed it is not a valid motivation for keeping the page) why don't you try to explain why this party has encyclopedic relevance?--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 19:26, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Checco Google hits are no indication of notability. We would need the sources you mention, can you provide specific links? I could find passing mentions as well that the party existed, but we need reliable, independent and significant coverage. --LordPeterII (talk) 20:03, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as it does not meet
    WP:GNG. Currently the article is unsourced. Yakme (talk) 09:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus on where to merge this content. Suggest continuing the discussion at the Talk page as there's no case made for deleting, nor for a standalone. Star Mississippi 01:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hardtack (game)

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Non-notable. Article lacks any refs, and my BEFORE search lacks any RS meeting GNG. Apparently, it's so obscure, that no one rated it on BGG, where it also lacks refs. As there're no refs, IMO this should be deleted. Possible PROD candidate, but BOZ, Piotrus, or Guinness323 frequently find older magazines covering niche, obscure games, so I'm taking to AfD instead. Many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 01:38, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1971? There'll be no Polish reviews, there was no organized fandom in Poland for those things until at least a decade later if not two. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Guidon Games until old paper-only sources can be found. There are undoubtedly hobby press reviews from 1972, but I have not been able to uncover any of them on line.Guinness323 (talk) 05:40, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Guinness323: I'm curious, but I'm not sure what to merge? To its history section? The current article cites no refs (not even just no RS), considering it's all OR, I'm absolutely supporting deletion. VickKiang (talk) 06:12, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Given that it has a page and an image on BGG, and numerous small mentions in various sources (but no in-depth reviews), it clearly existed. The fact of its existence should be mentioned on the Guidon Games page.Guinness323 (talk) 06:25, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's clear that it exists, but if you could find short mentions in RS (could you find any other refs than BGG?) I'll then be okay with merge, right now I still support the deletion nom. Many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 07:03, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If a merge cannot be done, then redirection can always be done and harms nothing. BOZ (talk) 12:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. No referenced content to merge, no sources to show even borderline notability. Ping if is such sources are found, and I'll be of course happy to revise my comment. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per nom. Andrevan@ 07:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not enough references to show any evidence of notability. —Natalie RicciNatalie 08:49, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The game is mentioned 3 times in Peterson's "Playing at the World" which also mentions that it was reviewed (poorly) in Panzerfaust #52. All of the other wargames that Gygax worked on as part of the Wargaming with Miniatures Series have articles. Grubbiv (talk) 05:40, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    IMO mentioned 3 times isn't SIGCOV- it needs to have at least one quite lengthy paragraph. As it only is "mentioned", IMO the coverage of the first one is trivial. Besides, how long is the Panzerfaust #52 article (is it a capsule review)? I'm also unconvinced that this should be kept based on that [all] of the other wargames that Gygax worked on as part of the Wargaming with Miniatures Series have articles, saying others have articles isn't a great keep rationale IMO. Even if these are significant, could you please add the refs and transclude in talk page to show that they're long enough and are RS? VickKiang (talk) 09:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Lou Zocchi we have enough to write a short (2-3 sentence) paragraph there and coverage wouldn't be undo (as it would be at Guidon Games). Hobit (talk) 14:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Lou Zocchi. He's a significant person in game design, and this certainly should be preserved there. Gygax as near as I can tell only wrote the introduction. Intothatdarkness 18:26, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment The Guidon Games article contains no individual game discussions, just a list of games published. So merging information there would break the existing page format. Zocchi's page does contain discussion about individual games he designed, making that merge more consistent with the existing article. Intothatdarkness 13:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Guidon Games, merging information to Zocchi would be UNDUEWEIGHT, but it is possible that the Guidon Games article could be reformatted in the future to allow for some information on individual games to be present there. Devonian Wombat (talk) 23:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Then you'd need to nominate the other game articles indexed at Guidon Games for deletion. Some of them, like
    Ironclad (game) contain less information than this article does. Others, mainly those involving Gygax, have more. Give that these articles are mostly short, it seems to me less content is lost if the information is shifted to the various main designers. Intothatdarkness 16:46, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Redirect to
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The result was merge to The Order of the Stick. I see a consensus that this article should not be left as is. In terms of the outcome, merges have both a numerical and a policy-based advantage. -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 17:08, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of The Order of the Stick characters

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It does not appear that there is enough independent coverage of the characters themselves to provide notability for a separate article on the characters. The main article on the comic can provide coverage of the key characters. HenryCrun15 (talk) 23:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe lesser sources, but Order Of The Stick: Degrees Of Good And Evil analyses characters and this review talks about their versions in The Order of the Stick Adventure Game: The Dungeon of Dorukan Mithoron (talk) 16:33, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't say that review concentrates on the characters. It contains a brief list of them in one paragraph, and then another paragraph with one to two sentences of coverage each on the main hero and the main villain. The fist "lesser source" does not appear to be a reliable source, and the second one seems to be little more than a bunch of passing mentions. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:39, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looking back at this a day later, I do see what you mean about the review providing significant coverage of the characters. Personally I still feel a merge is warranted unless enough secondary sources can be found to go into more detail than already exists or would belong The Order of the Stick#Characters without relying on primary sources, whereas all that could be sourced from the above review is a sentence analogous to the last paragraph in the lead, and maybe one or two more sentences in the Roy and Xykon sections. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:38, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is plenty of independent coverage of the characters on the Web. See discussion of Roy here. https://thecinnamonroll.co/2014/03/20/webcomic-review-the-order-of-the-stick/
Also, I'd be interested to know how much independent coverage of characters in many TV shows.
Consider this article, which has chalked up 102 edits since 2007, and which contains 0 citations: List of Felicity characters RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 09:05, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a persuasive argument at AfD. Feel free to start Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Felicity characters * Pppery * it has begun... 14:39, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Selectively merge per Pppery and others. I would expand the paragraphs at the main article on the Order themselves, especially, and add in some of the longer-running or more pivotal supporting characters such as Celia. But I don't believe the near-exhaustive coverage given them here can be justified. —VeryRarelyStable 11:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Star Mississippi 01:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kakuto Murayama

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Fails

WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:13, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Keep the article doesn’t fail

WP:GNG is also met as the FIG link describes the gymnast’s information directly & in details, & FIG is a reliable source & independent of the gymnast himself. NguyenDuyAnh1995 (talk) 18:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete Article fails
    WP:NGYMNASTICS. Sourcing is not enough to pass GNG, with one Facebook, one FIG and three Japan Gymnastics association. The Japan Gymnastics Association sources is not enough, with the sources only recording time and results. Fats40boy11 (talk) 06:13, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 21:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Brandon (pornographic actor)

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Most of the sources are adult industry publicity, and the few that aren't give trivial coverage 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Non-notable actor. TH1980 (talk) 01:38, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The subject has been a prolific entertainer since the 1980s. The SF Weekly covered Brandon's career and falling back into illicit substance use here, where they called him "a beloved San Franciscan gay porn icon". They then covered Brandon vowing to make a comeback afterward (here). He was the executive director of the Community Initiative in San Francisco (here). The Dallas Voice did a profile on him here. They covered a career pivot here. A resort named a suite after him, which was the first time a resort had done that for a gay porn performer (here). --Kbabej (talk) 09:07, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Which sources are you referring to? There is a lot of references in the last AfD. Christian75 (talk) 15:13, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @
    WP:RSP. —Kbabej (talk) 15:19, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep per Kbabej.
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  • Keep per per Kbabej and the references listed in the first AfD. Christian75 (talk) 17:09, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Aside from the fact that a substantial majority of discussion participants !voted to keep (leaving no possible interpretation of the outcome as a consensus to delete), there is certainly no question or assertion that this article is a hoax, or indeed that the subject of this article is not, in fact, one of the leading athletes in the history of his country. As a project, we must have some sensitivity to the fact that there will be subjects from minority groups in smaller countries for whom sources in English will be sparse or less accessible than for subjects in large English-speaking countries. I would encourage editors researching this article to look for transcripts or recordings of Tuvaluan radio broadcasts on the subject. BD2412 T 18:28, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okilani Tinilau

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Doesn't meet GNG and

WP:SPORTCRIT
even with the sources presented last AfD, per source assess table below (does not include the database sources).


Source assessment table:
Source
Independent?
 Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward
GNG
?
"14th IAAF World Championships - Biographical entry list". IAAF. No "Tuvaluan record holder at 100m ... ht Oly 100 2008; ht WCH 100 2009; pr WCH 100 2011" ✘ No
"New Caledonia defeated Tuvalu 8-0 in their Group A match at the XIV Pacific Games". Oceania Football Confederation. No team roster + event listing of a single match ✘ No
"Vanuatu have beaten Tuvalu 5–1 in their men's Group A match at Riviere Salée in Nouméa at the XIV Pacific Games". Oceania Football Confederation. No team roster + event listing of a single match ✘ No
"Solomon Islands have beaten Tuvalu in their men's Group A match at Rivière Salée in Nouméa at the XIV Pacific Games". Oceania Football Confederation. No team roster + event listing of a single match ✘ No
"Tuvalu Olympic Athletes Finish Competition Proudly", tuvaluislands.com ? probably not, site down No "ran in the men's 100 metres race on August 15. The 20 year-old's time was 11.48 in the first round Heat 10." ✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20220719041558/https://www.bndestem.nl/overig/deel-2-takataka-en-tinilau~ab4446fd No passing coverage of his career, not enough to constitute sigcov ✘ No
http://www.buunvenlo.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/buun-2013-compressed.pdf ? Yes ? Unknown
https://web.archive.org/web/20220719041604/https://lc.nl/archief/Nooit-een-saai-moment-met-Tuvalu-spelers-20724196.html No passing mention ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.
Avilich (talk) 22:59, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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NSPORTS requires multiple examples of sigcov, and at best there is only one, assuming that source is reliable.
Avilich (talk) 14:25, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Pretty sure it's reliable - no reason why it wouldn't be. Is NSPORTS any different from GNG, in your opinion? It only makes sense if significant achievement + one source with significant coverage in the article is used as a proxy for GNG. StAnselm (talk) 15:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
NSPORT says "Meeting this requirement [1 source] alone does not indicate notability" and "The topic-specific notability guidelines described on this page do not replace the general notability guideline", which I take to mean a requirement for multiple sources.
Avilich (talk) 20:02, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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No, of course we are allowed to keep these articles: as mentioned above,
WP:SPORTCRIT #5 in fact requires (only) one reliable source with significant coverage present in the article, which is what we have here. So even if it's not sufficient to meet GNG, it is sufficient to meet NSPORT, which is all we need. StAnselm (talk) 05:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Per
WP:GNG can be suspended by IAR, but only in exceptional circumstances. What is your IAR argument, and what is it about these circumstances - that otherwise appear like a standard sports AfD - that makes them exceptional? BilledMammal (talk) 05:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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I wasn't making an IAR argument - I was responding to the claim that we're not allowed to keep certain articles. But now that you mention it, there is a fairly strong IAR case here, in that the subject is (perhaps borderline) notable in two areas: football and athletics. That's what puts him above run-of-the-mill sportspeople. (The other IAR argument would be a systemic bias one, that we should make sure small countries are represented, and if we were to keep any sportsperson from Tuvalu, this would be the one.) But as I said, I think he passes NSPORTS in athletics. StAnselm (talk) 06:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep Looks like meeting
    WP:NSPORTS. Look at his matches. BBSTOP (talk) 05:11, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]
What about his matches? –dlthewave ☎ 05:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Per above. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 07:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As IdiotSavant said last time: "won bronze at the Oceania Athletics Championships, and so clearly meets WP:NATH criteria 1 or 2, depending on where you think the OAC ranks. If you think it needs additional references, please tag it appropriately rather than jumping straight to AfD." To which I would add that his notability is obvious within Tuvalu: an Olympian, national sprint record holder, and member of the country's national football team. He's arguably the most notable sportsperson from Tuvalu, all sports taken together. I find it... odd that when the nomination for deletion failed, the article was immediately nominated for deletion again. Aridd (talk) 20:51, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"won bronze", "Olympian, national sprint record holder, and member of the country's national football team" are not valid criteria of notability.
Avilich (talk) 19:59, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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No, but "Finished top 3 in any other major senior-level international competition" is. The Oceania Area Championships in Athletics are a major senior-level competition, recognised by the IAAF as an Olympic qualifying event. He clearly and unambiguously meets the notability criteria as an athlete, independently of any football-stuff--IdiotSavant (talk) 22:16, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That merely tells us that significant coverage is likely to exist, it doesn't establish notability. SIGCOV sources still need to be provided and at least one needs to be in the article. –dlthewave ☎ 02:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Individual events in these championships must contain either several heats or extended fields" is a criteria and both medals were won in events with less than eight entrants, ie no heats/qualification. Therefore Tinilau fails WP:NATH as well. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:35, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Where are you seeing the list of entrants? StAnselm (talk) 02:43, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Here [7] Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:50, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. StAnselm (talk) 03:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The "several heats or extended fields" you cited only applies to "Finished top 8 in a competition at the highest level..." (rule 1), and is irrelevant for those who finish in the top 3 (rule 2). 24.28.96.202 (talk) 03:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They may be deleted, it doesn't mean they must be deleted. Wikipedia:Notability says, "For articles on subjects that are clearly not notable, then deletion is usually the most appropriate response" (emphasis original). StAnselm (talk) 03:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Two cents. There are thousands and thousands of Olympics stubs created in bygone days with absolutely zero SIGCOV. E.g., Labib Hasso, Somsak Thong-ar-ram, Habib Sayed, Dulamyn Amarsanaa, Sompop Svadanandana, Jeremías Stokes, Talita Baqlah. Rather than devoting hours of collective effort re-litigating close cases that actually have SIGCOV and were resolved as "Keep" just one week earlier, why not focus our attention on cleaning up the clearly non-notable Olympians who have no SIGCOV at all? Of course, everyone's entitled to spend their time as they wish, but wouldn't the latter accomplish a lot more good for the encyclopedia? Cbl62 (talk) 15:29, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Make that four cents. It's not best behavior to re-nominate an article so soon, even if the result was no consensus. Jacona (talk) 15:49, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The previous discussion was pathetic, one person gave some sources which were barely discussed and the rest of the keep voters just threw around vaguewaves or illegitimate arguments -- now the sources are actually being discussed, as they should've been the first time.
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@Sportsfan 1234: You may not have realised that your argument got rebutted above. StAnselm (talk) 05:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That claimed rebuttal was strongly rebutted several times. Passing NATH (presumably #2, not #3; if indeed he does - which is debatable given the regional nature of the Oceania championships at the time) is insufficient, since when the presumption that significant coverage is likely to exist is challenged, GNG must be shown to be met. That means multiple sources, not just a solitary weak source (and it's questionable whether that even contains the necessary coverage). All we have here is pieced together from bare results and statistics, because that is pretty much all that is in the sources. wjematherplease leave a message... 07:38, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Tuvalu is a small country. Really small. Nevertheless, he is a significant sports figure as far as Tuvalu is concerned. Sure, the coverage may not be what we would like to see, but there is enough there to verify his accomplishments and existence. There are sources even if they are not particularly strong. Ultimately, weighing everything, I !vote Keep. This article is a net positive to WP (isn't that the test for admins?). If nothing else, I am IAR-ing because in an area (sports bios) where there are a lot of one-line articles with 10 pageviews all time for someone who appeared in one MLB game in 1995, I think this is the kind of article which we should be keeping, as opposed to deleting just for deletion's sake (or because the black-letter law says we can). Is this a diatribe? Yes, but I stand behind it. ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 18:57, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Aridd has shown above that Tinilau does in fact pass NATH, which means that SIGCOV likely exists. This article has been at AfD for a long time, and SIGCOV has not emerged. However, we do have this source, which does in fact count towards GNG. We also have a note above about Olympic Islands, an unconfirmed SIGCOV offline source. There is a strong possibility that this subject meets GNG from those two sources, which for someone from Tuvalu of all places would be enough for GNG. Combined with the NATH presumption of SIGCOV, I find it likely that this subject is in fact notable. NATH tells us that there is likely SIGCOV of this person, which is reinforced by the online source and potential for offline sources. Giving due consideration to his small home country of Tuvalu, I find it extremely likely that he is notable. HouseBlastertalk 00:09, 23 August 2022 (UTC) edited 07:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That has been debunked. Tinilau DOES NOT pass NATH. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:26, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe you are referring to your comment ("Individual events in these championships must contain either several heats or extended fields" is a criteria and both medals were won in events with less than eight entrants, ie no heats/qualification. Therefore Tinilau fails WP:NATH as well.") above. That qualifier is only present for NATH#1, but is not present for NATH#2, which is the criterion he meets. NATH#2 explicitly mentions that "prestigious small field meets" qualify for meeting that criterion (emphasis mine). HouseBlastertalk 01:45, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
NATH presumption of SIGCOV there's no such thing, in fact a recent RfC has done away with presumptions.
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That was poor phrasing on my part. I have struck and replaced it with wording that is closer to what I was trying to get at. HouseBlastertalk 07:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Bill Buchanan

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In-universe fictography more appropriate for a 24 wiki than WP. See maintenance tags for specific objections. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 07:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, nobody has even mentioned List of 24 characters as an alternative to a standalone article. I think there is sufficient content for at least an entry at the character-list article. With some grit and deeper research, it could possibly be standalone in the future. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 13:00, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The interview appears to be about the actor's experience with the show, not much to do with the character. The "Philosophy" one's preview looks to just be plot-related context. The rest seems to be the usual pop culture fluff these shows attract and other trivial mentions. Doesn't seem to meet GNG. I don't really such much point in retention of existing content, but delete or redirect are fine outcomes. TTN (talk) 14:33, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
While I am no impressed with the sources found (mostly fail
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:01, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Walhalla (restaurant)

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Local restaurant in Finland. I see nothing stated in the article that would indicate why it is notable. It appears to be a direct translation of an Finnish WP article, without verification of the sources. One is a deadlink, and the other says the restaurant is currently closed - not reflected in the article. Does not meet

WP:NORG, lack of in-depth independent coverage. MB 03:33, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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The last group is mostly shorter review style pieces, but I did find [19], [20] and [21] interesting: they appear to describe weird "culinaristic concerts" which combine music by various composers with thematically related foods.
In addition, I found some individual hits in books using Google Books, but these were mostly limited to passing mentions in architectural books and travel guides. The mentions in architectural books gives me a bit of pause w/r/t the possibility that there'd be more coverage in that domain, but I'm unable to locate anything meaningful. -Ljleppan (talk) 08:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I've been searching around for a while on this but I didn't find anything to add to Ljleppan's post. Helsingin Sanomat's review is a great source, but that's where it all stops. Reading it thoroughly, Iltalehti's article basically consists of a one short 2-3 sentences paragraph of original content, then a summary of the Sanomat's review, then Tripadvisor ratings mention. Not a
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shomari Kentish

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Fails

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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Bakari Battice

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Fails

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Kapil Battice

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Fails

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MIL-DTL-13486

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This article should be deleted because it is about a military standard of little impact outside of military purchasing specifications. It has been tagged for notability for a couple of years with no improvements to suggest it has encyclopediac value here.

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. There are military standards for everything armed forces buy, and few of them are notable outside of their baliwick. This standard is obscure outside of those working in manufacture of wire or in military purchasing. Wtshymanski (talk) 02:46, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Jaiden Abbott

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Fails

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Daniel Anderson (footballer)

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Fails

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Simon Anthony (footballer)

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Fails

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:55, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ninja (playground game)

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This has been unreferenced since 2010 and I'm unable to find

reliable sources that discuss it in any significant way. ... discospinster talk 02:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Delete. While in theory this could be notable, what we have is an
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The result was redirect to Environmental policy in China. Seek help with revision deletion of copyrighted content. Liz Read! Talk! 01:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Environmental governance in China

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Essay-like piece that is duplicative of environmental policy in China. Amigao (talk) 01:23, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merger seems appropriate to me. Quite a lot of good content that's extensively sourced on "Environmental Governance in China" so I don't think we want to lose all that effort. But it is too much like an essay and the subject matter is duplicative of "Environmental policy in China." JArthur1984 (talk) 22:31, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I took an initial attempt at merging some of the information into the environmental policy in China page. JArthur1984 (talk) 22:59, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect As I discussed with JArthur1984, some of the text that was moved from this article to
    doi:10.1080/09644010600562567 (many editors won't be able to access that article, but 180 words from it were copied to the Environmental Governance article at some point long ago). That doesn't bode well for additional texts in the article. I believe the article's name should redirect and any information taken from the article should be thoroughly cleansed before attempting any kind of merger.  Spintendo  07:09, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete due to the copyvio. Jumpytoo Talk 02:08, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Romare Kelsick

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Fails

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