Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Japanese overseas military actions

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of Japanese overseas military actions

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Overly broad. This would theoretically include every Japanese operation in World Wars I and II, in addition to countless previous actions. SilverStar54 (talk) 05:50, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Lists, and Japan. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:59, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. This includes numerous unrelated states. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:03, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or draftify. The subject is notable, the list is not unmanageably large, and mostly it just wants proper sourcing. Mccapra (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per
  WP:NOTDATABASE. What is the point of this 2005 un-sourced list? There is no indication of who created this, or why. Ultimately, just about every existing nation on earth has been involved in military actions beyond their borders. But, so what? — Maile (talk) 16:26, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete I searched for List of overseas military actions and seen no other nation has this. There is a Timeline of United States military operations and Category:Military timelines shows other nations that have these. But those are for nations, not locations that previously had a completely unrelated government. Dream Focus 05:08, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Mere POVFORK of wars list. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 14:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Seems like a perfectly manageable list. I have no idea what "unrelated states" Clarityfiend is referring to. Lack of sources in an article from 2005 and especially in a list is no grounds for deletion. What POV does Abhishek0831996 have in mind? Srnec (talk) 21:16, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Should there really be a list of "Overseas military actions by [given country]" in addition to a Category:Lists of wars by country? All of the former lists would just be an arbitrary subset of the latter. One can imagine an endless number of ways to subdivide lists of wars involving a country, but I don't think they all need separate pages. SilverStar54 (talk) 00:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:01, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as a case of
  WP:TNT - There might be a list to be created within this area, but the current contents (effectively unsourced and containing vague statements like By some interpretations...) and the mismatch between it's title ("military actions" encompasses almost anything) and it's inclusion criteria (historical wars or other military conflicts outside the geographic boundaries of Japan in which Japanese soldiers participated) make this a difficult knot to untangle incrementally: removing unsourced contents would be equivalent to just removing the article, and a discussion on what the scope/inclusion criteria/title should be is exactly the kind of discussion that I've found rarely works out in practice. Easier for everyone involved to just start over. -Ljleppan (talk) 08:50, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - This article is just
  junk. We have [[1]] which is also questionable, and we have Military_history_of_Japan. DCsansei (talk) 22:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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