Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of some notable dancers

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was move to List of dancers. Note that some of the redlinks in this article aren't really missing - Rudolf Nureyev and Bill Robinson ("Mr. Bojangles") are two examples. The redundant biographical material should be removed to conform to the usual style of lists, since the 'Sources' section states there's nothing new there. In addition, a merge with List of dance personalities would be a good idea, since dancers have personalities too. KrakatoaKatie 08:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of some notable dancers

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Unmanageable list, could be achieved much better as a category. created to make a

WP:POINT because List of the best Dancers was nominated for deletion. Roleplayer (talk) 21:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. There already is a list of dancers WP considers notable. It's at Category:Dancers. Making an article for just "some" of them--well, it just doesn't make much sense. Anturiaethwr (talk) 21:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's a category, not a list.
categories do not replace lists. They are synergistic in nature and both serve different purposes. Redundancy with lists and categories is not a reason to delete one or the other. Celarnor Talk to me 21:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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What makes renaming it to "List of Dancers" a non-viable solution? Celarnor Talk to me 02:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree, but in the event it becomes unmanagable, it can always be subdivided. Deletion is only for articles that aren't in line with policy, not "articles I don't know how we can manage". Celarnor Talk to me 03:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 13:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to List of Dancers. I was going to suggest the category vs. list thing, but apparently Wikipedia policy has once again changed by osmosis (given how many folks are citing the "categories are not lists" philosophy in their arguments to keep even though just a few weeks ago same philosophy was being used to justify deletion of list articles. I really wish this community would make up its bloody mind. It's like the place is run by George Orwell. 23skidoo (talk) 14:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That guideline has included the "they shouldn't be in conflict" bit since November of 2007. Most editors just don't realize it. Celarnor Talk to me 14:34, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Some notable dancers"? Delete. Use a category. Stifle (talk) 19:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And leave a hole in the
Categories don't replace lists. Celarnor Talk to me 20:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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As I've said, how would we deal with the hole that would be in the
List of theologians, etc. Keep in mind that there are two ways of browsing Wikipedia, not one. They're not meant to be exclusive; rather, they're meant to complement each other. I don't quite understand why some editors have trouble with understanding this. Celarnor Talk to me 21:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Well, every one of the lists you referenced is a list of lists, and is essentially a category of either other categories, or names of people with wikified links to them. None tries to be a "best of" list, and none provides a summary of each, as this article does. This article is a cherry-picked list. If it were simply a neat, organized, long list of names, as the other ones are, I'd support keeping it.
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Well, yeah, granted, that's what it should be. But it has the capability to be changed to that without much effort. And since it can be improved by editing, I don't think it's a good deletion candidate. Celarnor Talk to me 01:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. There's already something similar, or at least overlapping, at
    Dance personalia that should be considered in this discussion. Shawisland (talk) 06:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep I would not go so far as to say that every category must have an associated list, but even that would make mroe sensethan considering that we must have either the one or the other. DGG (talk) 03:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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