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Category:Athlete actors

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The result of the debate was delete

rtinp23 20:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Athlete actors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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Category:Apple printers

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The result of the debate was rename

rtinp23 20:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Rename as Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_July_4#Category:Apple_litigation_to_Category:Apple_Computer_litigation_or_Category:Litigation_of_Apple_Computer abd Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_November_14#Apple_Computer_category.Duwiwne 22:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:New Zealand football categories

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The result of the debate was rename. Andrew c 02:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:New Zealand football competitions to Category:New Zealand soccer competitions
Category:Football (soccer) players in New Zealand by club to Category:Soccer players in New Zealand by club
Category:New Zealand football clubs to Category:New Zealand soccer clubs
  • "Football" in New Zealand means rugby union. As per other such categories the local name should be used. Grutness...wha? 22:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related page moves. Matthew_hk tc 10:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Wimstead 00:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Matthew_hk tc 10:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:British elections (1707-1800)

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The result of the debate was rename to

rtinp23 20:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Category:British elections (1707-1800) into Category:Elections in Great Britain

I set up this category before I was aware of the other one. I agree they should be merged and the change of name makes the scope of the category clearer. --Gary J 13:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:GPL accounting software

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The result of the debate was rename per nom. David Kernow (talk) 21:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The useage of "free" is much more the convention then "GPL" (which is the most prevelant kind of free software); asides from being out-of-synch, this could potentially leave out some Free software. Oberiko 19:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Years by decade

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The result of the debate was merge per nom. David Kernow (talk) 22:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Years by decade into Category:Decades

    • Oppose This subcategory specificaly covers our year pages like 1800 or 1850. They are not decades in themselves. User:Dimadick
      • Are you opposing my original nomiation or Samuel Wantman's rename proposal? If mine you are wrong, the category contains decades such as Category:2000s. Tim! 15:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Operations of the South African Border War

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The result of the debate was rename per nom. David Kernow (talk) 01:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Operations of the South African Border War to Category:Battles and operations of the South African Border War

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Category:South African Alternatives

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The result of the debate was delete

rtinp23 20:40, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Delete, or at least Rename to Category:South African alternatives, no clear inclusion criteria. -- ProveIt (talk) 17:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Overloaded word meaning nothing as a result. Pavel Vozenilek 14:49, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Alternative is outdated slang with no stable definition, not suitable for a category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Hoylake 18:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Venezuelan military

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The result of the debate was rename per nom

rtinp23 20:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Venezuelan military to Category:Venezuelan military personnel

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Category:Squeeze members

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The result of the debate was nom withdrawn. David Kernow (talk) 07:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, or Rename to Category:Squeeze, convention of Category:Categories named after musicians. -- ProveIt (talk) 16:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jeremiah

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The result of the debate was delete

rtinp23 20:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Delete, contains only the article Jeremiah and an image, doesn't seem to need a category. -- ProveIt (talk) 15:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Streets in Minneapolis

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The result of the debate was nom withdrawn

rtinp23 20:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Rename to Category:Streets and squares in Minneapolis, convention of Category:Streets and squares by city. -- ProveIt (talk) 15:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Minneapolis doesn't have any "squares" to speak of (unlike European cities or older American cities); all the streets in the category are actual streets. The street categories for most North American cities on Wikipedia are named "Category:Streets in [name of city]". One category that perhaps should be re-named is Category:Streets in Philadelphia, which does include squares.Eco84 | Talk 03:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Some cities have separate categories for street and for squares as subcategories of the "streets and squares" category, so this category name does not really breach the convention and it is accurate. Hoylake 18:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn I withdraw my nominatation. -- ProveIt (talk) 01:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians with PGP/GPG keys

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The result of the debate was moved to

Wikipedia:User categories for discussion#Category:Wikipedians with PGP/GPG keys. Andrew c 02:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
]

Category:Wikipedians with PGP/GPG keys into Category:Wikipedians who use PGP

  • Merge, I created the former category not knowing that the latter existed. I changed the link in {{user PGP}} to point to the latter, and in no longer makes sense to have two. Avi 14:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to
    Wikipedia:User categories for discussion. David Kernow (talk) 07:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Devout fictional characters

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The result of the debate was delete

rtinp23 20:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Redundant with Category:Fictional characters by religion. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional bigots

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The result of the debate was delete

rtinp23 20:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Not a defining characteristic, not objectively defined. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't necessarily want to keep this, but let me explain why I created it. People kept putting Ned Flanders in Category:Fictional racists. However this doesn't work as his prejudices are not racial or ethnic, but religious. So I intended this to be characters who are strongly prejudiced against other religions or cultures, Francis Griffin might also fit, but who don't appear to have any racial or gender biases. I feared it would never be used that way though and indeed it hasn't.--T. Anthony 11:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Irredeemably POV. Hawkestone 17:23, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - jc37 13:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional characters who are opposed to humanity

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The result of the debate was rename to Fictional misanthropes. David Kernow (talk) 01:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I find this a rather weird name. It contains a number of aggressive aliens whom we've had fictional war with, and probably some of the more genocidally-inclined supervillains. This doesn't appear to be a meaningful grouping, so I hereby join Category:Real wikipedians who are opposed to this category. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I would be willing to renaming the category into Fictional misanthropes, though I'm not sure if we would need to create a subcategory for non-humans since almost all of the characters there are already non-human. --DrBat 18:36, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps creating a subcategory FOR human misanthropes would be better. Ones who have a distain for contact with other humans rather than an all out hatred of the human race. Animedude 07:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd support that; having a subcategory for human misanthropes (like
Mandy (Billy and Mandy)).--DrBat 19:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Fictional vegetarians

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The result of the debate was keep

rtinp23 20:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply
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A character's eating habits are not a defining characteristic. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, as long as it's noted in the article somewhere I feel that vegetarianism can be quite a notable trait as it has a distinctive a lifestyle impact.~ZytheTalk to me! 17:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep, it's definetely a notable trait. Siyavash 17:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Zythe Hawkestone 17:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, as it can be an important characteristic --Piemanmoo 19:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, as it often is a defining characteristic (such as for
    Hnsampat 21:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep. Seems a quite worthwhile subject.--Mike Selinker 03:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep For many of the listed characters it defines their beliefs and has been specifically adressed in strylines. User:Dimadick
  • Keep Concur with all keepers Aljosa 01:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep- For reasons stated above --
    SUIT 03:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Fictional Freemasons

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The result of the debate was no consensus. David Kernow (talk) 02:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this may be too narrow. It contains only two characters, for one of which (Grandpa Simpson) the membership is not a defining characterstic but a one-off joke in a single episode. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep It is underpopulated but then most of our extensive categories only started with a hand full of articles. According to our article on Freemasonry, fictional Freemasons also include Boycie and there is a list of novels with Freemason main or secondary characters. User:Dimadick
  • Delete per nom. - jc37 13:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There have to be more than these two fictional freemasons out there. I think that the request for population works for now. (Caveat: I was the creator of the cat. It was created out of an attempt to sort out a category for Freemasons that conatianed waaaay too many articles) youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 22:21, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I would think that in many cases where this attribute is mentioned in fiction it is intended to be highly important. Hoylake 18:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional Democrats and Category:Fictional Republicans

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The result of the debate was rename to Category:Fictional United States Democrats and Category:Fictional United States Republicans. the wub "?!" 10:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
These should probably be renamed to counter systemic bias. Outside the USA, "democrat" means "someone who is democratic", not "someone who supports the USA Democrat Party". (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, are "democrat" and "Democrat" the same thing? :P ~ZytheTalk to me! 17:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment perhaps, but "Republican" has a number of meanings in the UK including both anti-monarchists and Irish unificationists. Timrollpickering 21:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would prefer not to have two cats that differ only by capitalization; that'd be confusing. (Radiant) 22:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Perhaps Category:Fictional members of the Democratic Party (United States) and it's Republican counterpart? CovenantD 00:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Beat met to the comment Covenant. I'd agree if the cats didn't seem exceedingly redundant since they each contain a link to a relevant, better titled list. In light of that, keep the lists and Delete the cats. — J Greb 00:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional anarchists

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The result of the debate was keep, although perhaps members ought only qualify if their fictional source/s state they are anarchic...  David Kernow (talk) 02:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid this may constitute original research, as for most fictional characters being "anarchist" is poorly defined. For instance, Captain Nemo is in here, but he is more an escapist who lives away from governments; and V (for Vendetta) is more a revolutionary in that he wants a government but not this one. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, I don't think it's really OR. Usually it's made quite clear in the text. V fits the definition of anarchist (and revolutionary). Anarchy can be defined as someone who believes in a bottom-up system of power, not simply someone who advocates chaos.~ZytheTalk to me! 17:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Zythe Hawkestone 17:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep If they fit this
    Past and present anarchist communities which covers historic anarchy. User:Dimadick
  • Delete - per the Democrat/Republican nom, above (and because citations/references would be wanted). Listify if wanted. - jc37 13:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep I am an anarchist myself and personally, I'd like to see what books have been written with anarchist characters. Or films that featured anarchist characters, whether featured positively or negatively. At the moment, the category does not look that good but that does not mean it cannot be improved. Whether Captain Nemo belongs on the list should be of no relevance. Imperfections on a page does not mean that the page should simply be deleted. There are many instances where the author makes it explicitly and indisputably clear that a fictional character is supposed to be an anarchist - including Ursula K. Le Guin, Joseph Conrad and Alan Moore. By all means, get rid of the original research and improve this category but why single this out for deletion? There is a huge list of categories devoted to fictional characters. There are categories for fictional characters of the French Revolution, fictional characters with superhuman power and fictional characters of the Second World War. There are categories for fictional characters that are Nigerians, Ainu, Serbians, Cubans and numerous other ethnic groups. Most relevantly, there are categories for fictional christians, fictional muslims, fictional fascists, fictional nazis and various other modes of beliefs. I do not see how a category for fictional anarchists differ from any of these. --Anarchodin 06:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Debates over which characters can be called anarchists should be carried out on individual talk pages. Owen 19:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    If it requires a debate, then it requires citations/references. And if so, it should be a
    Category. - jc37 10:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep. I feel that the particular category in question has been much abused with the inclusion of Bart Simpson (a trouble making youth), the Left Hand from Vampire Hunter D (a creature of fantasy horror), Flag-Smasher (an anti-nationalist), Winston Smith (a dissenter), and Nemo (an escapist). The inclusion of these characters is never justified, and so they were or should be removed. This seems to be tied with common misconceptions of what is an anarchist. To clarify the matter, inclusion in this category should require that the character in question or author explicitly states the character is meant to be an anarchist, and that the article for the character should explain how this is the case. Not that they have some incidental "anarchist" qualities, or make some modestly "anarchic" remarks. There are many such characters, either major or minor, in the works of Alan Moore (V for Vendetta) and Le Guin (The Dispossessed) as mentioned above, as well as in the work of Alan Grant (Anarky) and Philip K. Dick (The Last of the Masters.) The category should be kept, but refined. Cast
  • Delete - 3 edits in 9 months implies there is a very low likelyhood of this being cleaned up or maintained properly, and requires too much
    WP:OR to determine. Noting the inviduals as having an anarchic outlook would suffice. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 22:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete. POV cat. Vegaswikian 22:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Worth cleaning up and keeping. Certain characters - such as V and King Mob - have been identified by their authors as anarchists. Others clearly self-identify as anarchists in their respective stories. Any problems with the category are fixable and the result of editor misunderstanding, not problems inherent to the category.
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Category:Fictional patriots

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The result of the debate was delete. --RobertG ♬ talk 14:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a defining characteristic. It would technically include almost all superheroes and fictional spies. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional characters who have committed mariticide

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The result of the debate was merge with Fictional murderers per Radiant. David Kernow (talk) 02:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Overcategorization, merge back to "fictional murderers". And I've learned a new word today :) (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I made the category because I thought killing your spouse was more significant than just killing a stranger (I specifically created it for
Saul Tigh's character). --DrBat 23:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Fictional mass murderers

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The result of the debate was no consensus. David Kernow (talk) 02:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The weird thing is that this category states it should only be used for villains, and lists Luke Skywalker as an example of someone who is a mass murderer (since he killed a bunch of storm troopers) but can't be listed since he's a good guy. We should either rename this cat to reflect that, or reword the header to straighten it out, or simply merge into "cat:murderers". (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge to Category:Fictional murderers — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Then
    Johnny Allen (Eastenders)) and someone who has killed before (example: every Sci-Fi/Fantasy character ever, even Doctor Who...) ~ZytheTalk to me! 17:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Reluctant Keep The term mass murder does have a definition by a US gov't agency (which will need to be reflected in the cat description). It's subject to POV interpretations, but not to the point of being unmanagable. CovenantD 00:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment members of this category should only include characters acknowledged to be mass murders within the fictional universe that the character exists in, and not an outside standard that may hold no value within the fictional universe. That would be original research, as it would be an application of a new standard to something. 132.205.45.206 01:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Based on the anon IPs comments, I realize that it IS an unmanagable category because many different, perhaps conflicting, standards could be applied. CovenantD 02:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep:
This category does clarify its standard in its introduction. "This page lists fictional people in literature, film, television, and comic books who have committed mass murder, defined as the killing of four or more people in a single incident.
For
fictional characters who have committed multiple separate murders over a period of time see category:Fictional serial killers
. Note that someone who has killed in war or battle or self defense is not necessarily a murderer."
So no point in distinguishing heroes and villains here. User:Dimadick
Comment That standard is the same one set forth by the United States government - it's what prompted my initial weak keep. CovenantD 12:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/Delete per nom. - jc37 13:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional characters with speech impediments

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The result of the debate was delete. --RobertG ♬ talk 14:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Considering most speech impediments (e.g. those by many cartoon characters) are just silly jokes (as opposed to real-life speech impediments that are not) I do not consider this a meaningful characterization. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional dyslexics

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The result of the debate was no consensus. David Kernow (talk) 02:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Overly narrow - only one entry. Indeed, in most genres of fiction it is never mentioned whether characters can read well or poorly. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I would disagree with the characterization that it is overly narrow. It's a disability, just like any other disability listed on the fictional people with disabilities parent category. Only one entry -- there are quite a few topics with 1 or few entries on the categories to populate template, that in itself doesn't seem to be a strong reason to delete. In modern times, disabilities are being discussed more and more in fiction and among characters, even protagonists. Let's be conscious of the times that are a changing. :) Siyavash 17:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, as per Siyavash - Skrewball
  • Keep Being underpopulated is not a good reason for deletion. Being flawed in conception or definition is. User:Dimadick
  • Delete - it could possibly be re-created if it's needed in the future. (At which point I have a feeling it'll be back on CfD again : ) - jc37 13:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional wheelchair-bound people

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The result of the debate was keep

rtinp23
20:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC) Appears to be redundant with Category:Fictional lame characters, except that the latter may contain characters in a setting where wheelchairs have not been invited yet. Suggest merging. (Radiant) 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep They mean different concepts. Also I really don't like the name Category:Fictional lame characters. Aside from it being potentially insulting the word "lame", in American English anyway, has a double-meaning that makes it confusing.--T. Anthony 15:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -highly defining. I do think perhaps lame characters should be CFD'd though.~ZytheTalk to me! 17:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, or merge, under the condition that Fictional lame characters is properly renamed. Siyavash 17:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • It appears the three of you are actually arguing for merging both categories into a different name. What name would you prefer over "fictional lame characters"? (Radiant) 22:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not the same thing as "lamed" Hawkestone 17:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Rename to Category:Fictional wheelchair-bound characters to match all of the other fictional characters with disability categories. Otto4711 16:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC) Clearly not redundant with the lame characters category, as is obvious from who is listed in the lame characters category. Otto4711 08:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not the same. The definition of lame in Wiktionary includes "moving with pain or difficulty on account of injury, defect, or temporary obstruction of a function; as, a lame leg, arm, or muscle." Plenty of characters fit the definition due to one conditior or another without being wheelchair-bound. User:Dimadick
  • Keep per Dimadick — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Multiple people

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The result of the debate was category relisted on December 8 CfD. David Kernow (talk) 02:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Multiple people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete, or, because I realise deletion is a very bold proposal, at least rename to

Marx brothers are not notable because they are more than one person, but because they have made a notable contribution in their field of collaboration, Category:Married couples are perhaps notable for being married, but not for being more than one person, Category:Multiple births are notable for being more than one person only in gynaecology. This category answers only the question "what articles are about more than one person?" which I do not class as an encyclopedic question. Its parent category is Category:People by status, but being more than one of you is not really a "status", and after some thought I have not been able to suggest another useful parent cat. The category's current title is too broad: jury, cabinet, quorum, string quartet, Queen (band), and collective bargaining all arguably fit its current name. I feel it should be submitted for discussion, anyway, to test whether I am a lone voice, and in case a consensus is forthcoming. RobertG ♬ talk 12:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Fictional lottery winners

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Andrew c 02:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC) Not a defining characteristic. Way too many characters in series have won a lottery at some point. (Radiant) 10:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. I can't think of any not mentioned in the category already, and even if there are some, the category is puny after six months, so there is no reason to delete it now. 2005 11:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is nevertheless not a defining characteristic. I could add most characters in Donald Duck (especially Gladstone, but including the nephews, Daisy etc), Homer and Bart Simpson, as well as Abe's girlfriend iirc, a bunch of Looney Tunes, Leisure Suit Larry, and arguably all five characters from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. That's only because I don't watch soap series, because most of those also include a lottery winner or three. (Radiant) 13:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per 2005 — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, this mass category deletion drive is getting as bad as the silly category creation one...~ZytheTalk to me! 17:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I don't think we should categorise by plot device. (Fictional car crash victims, for another example.) - jc37 13:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. For some characters such as
    Earl Hickey, it most definately IS a defining characteristic.--T smitts 19:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep per T smitts Piccadilly 01:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I fail to see why this is a defining characteristic. Heck we even had a TV series with, what was it, 20 who won a million? Vegaswikian 00:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Judaic views

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The result of the debate was delete. David Kernow (talk) 02:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Judaic views (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

  • Delete as nominator - after nearly one month of existence category contains only 3 articles; other categories exist to assume articles contained; category's practical function will continue to be the duplication of existing article content/mirroring other category content. Sam 08:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alpha Flight Members, Category:Alpha Flight members & Category:Thunderbolts Members

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The result of the debate was delete all. the wub "?!" 13:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Alpha Flight Members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Alpha Flight members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Thunderbolts Members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Speedy delete as re-created categories. See Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_17#Marvel_Comics_superhero_team_memberships. CovenantD 07:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - please separate/split this nomination. - jc37 08:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Geez, I get flak when I combine similar CfDs and I get flak when I leave them separate. I give up trying to get it right. There is no right way to format similar categories. CovenantD 11:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alpha Flight - Keep and Merge "Members" to "members". - This organisation does not have the mass character overlap that many other superteams have (which was the over-riding concern of the previous nominations). - jc37 08:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's not really true. The overriding concern expressed for the first batch of team membership categories (DC Comics) was the inability to annotate the entries versus a list.[1] The Marvel teams were based on that logic. CovenantD 11:30, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thunderbolts - Delete per previous discussions. - jc37 08:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, seen it before. (Radiant) 13:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Postdlf 18:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as pert nom. — J Greb 00:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:BDSM submissives

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The result of the debate was keep. David Kernow (talk) 02:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, as nominator. Category has only one article in it.
    st 11.24.06 0146 (UTC -5)
  • Keep. If you look at the parent, it does not appear to have any people included in the 185 articles which begs for more subcats. Given the current size and the likelyhood that more entries for this category, keeping seems to be reasonable. Another option would be a Category:BDSM people for single entries like this. Vegaswikian 00:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Prominent Trivandrumites

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The result of the debate was rename to Category:People from Thiruvananthapuram. --RobertG ♬ talk 11:06, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Prominent Trivandrumites to Category:People from Trivandrum

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Category:Fictional anti-heroes

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The result of the debate was delete. --RobertG ♬ talk 11:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional anti-heroes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Speedy delete as recreated category. See Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_May_13#Category:Anti-heroes. CovenantD 00:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete but not speedily as May 13 is over 6 months ago. Sumahoy 04:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment I have some recollection of it being recreated and deleted again since May, but can't find any evidence of that and so went with the documented date. CovenantD 05:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete nonspecific category, vaguely defined with excessively broad criteria. Doczilla 05:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Separating an Anti-hero - from an Antagonist - from a Protagonist - is a matter of perspective. - jc37 08:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete, it was recreated on the 7th June, whereupon I speedied it as G4, and this category was created 16th October, but a timelag doesn't preclude speedy deletions. Hiding Talk 13:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Query why would six months matter?
    WP:CSD G4 does not list any arbitrary time limit. (Radiant) 13:57, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep as I don't accept the argument put forward for deletion. The speedy deletion rule should not be used as a tool designed to enable deletion of as much as possible. Please come up with a content-based reason. Hawkestone 17:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - Um, "deleting as much as possible" is YOUR interpretation of the motivation for nominating it. I included a link to the prior CfD so that editors can read the reasons for themselves and not rely on my summation. You may notice that I didn't participate in that one, although interestingly enough you did and voted to delete it back then. CovenantD 00:49, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete and salt as recreation, and endorse original deletion due to inherent subjectiveness in applying label to any particular character. Often merely a marketing term to make a character seem "dark." Postdlf 18:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per Postdlf. — J Greb 00:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Normal Delete. Exactly how can you decide that a character belongs in this category without doing original research? Ken Arromdee 23:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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