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Category:Race and intelligence controversy

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Do not rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Race and intelligence controversy to Category:Race and intelligence
Nominator's rationale: The main article is Race and intelligence but having a "controversy" suffix on the category name seems to be confusing. Obviously there is a concern to sort out the science and the pseudoscience, but having a category not match its main article name is a poor way to attempt to accomplish that.--Standardfact (talk) 21:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:James Bond documentaries

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge as nominated and to Category:James Bond. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:James Bond documentaries to Category:Documentary television films
Nominator's rationale: Merge overly narrow category with unclear growth potential. Suggest not upmerging to
talk) 20:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
As the proposed target category is for all television documentaries, regardless of the subject matter, I'd say that if a merge is in order,
talk) 21:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
On second thought, I vote to upmerge to eponymous
talk) 22:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
Absent any last minute arrivals, we are only concerned with these three. "All James Bond documentaries will be documentaries about film" - no! Ian Fleming: Where Bond Began is essentially about the books (as are 2 more tv docs not in the category I have seen), but of course the other 2 can be added to Category:Documentaries about films. Johnbod (talk) 00:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • As time passes there will be more documentaries about James Bond - see
    talk) 16:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:WW2 photograph

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:54, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:WW2 photograph to Category:World War II images
Nominator's rationale: Rename - expand the abbreviation and change to the common and correctly pluralized "images". It appears these are all in the public domain, so should these be migrated to Commons and the category deleted instead? Image policy confuses me.
talk) 19:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Bosnian War 1992

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Bosnian War. NW (Talk) 04:53, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Bosnian War 1992 to Category:Multiple parents
Suggest merging Category:Bosnian War 1993 to Category:Multiple parents
Suggest merging Category:Bosnian War 1994 to Category:Multiple parents
Suggest merging Category:Bosnian War 1995 to Category:Multiple parents
Nominator's rationale: Merge - breaking down events by war per year is non-standard. Checking several protracted military conflicts, we don't do it for
talk) 19:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Latino American film festivals

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Latin American film festivals. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Latino American film festivals (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete or redefine more narrowly Rename to
talk) 18:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Pakistan Television actors

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. If some individual actors are Pakistani, they can be added to the category, but I would rather not take the chance that they are all Pakistani. NW (Talk) 22:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Pakistan Television actors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Is this much different than the category "Category:Pakistani television actors"? (Sorry, when I link the cat, it disappears.) Maybe I'm missing the point here, but it seems redundant.  Mbinebri  talk ← 17:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Put a colon before Category and it won't disappear. Appears to be a mis-capitalized duplicate of existing category. Delete per
    talk) 18:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Merge to Category:Pakistani television actors - "Pakistani" is the adjectival form and is therefore the correct title for the category, whereas "Pakistan" is the nominal form. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The definition says these are not Pakistani television actors but rather actors who have been employed by the Pakistan Television Corporation; hence "Pakistan Television" actors—not Pakistani "television actors". That being said, this amounts to a fairly routine "performer by performance" category (actor by television station), and should accordingly be deleted. They may or may not all be of Pakistani nationality. Good Ol’factory (talk) 10:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reply - however, this is a sub-category of the proposed target. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • If the category definition is accurate, it probably shouldn't be, unless 100% of the actors appearing on Pakistan Television programmes are Pakistani. That's what
        Template:CatRel is for. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:39, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
        ]
  • Delete - performer by performance/employer.
    talk) 22:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Merge into Category:Pakistani television actors". Why Otto4711 sees reason to call this "performer by performance/employer" is a riddle to me. Debresser (talk) 17:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: All these actors were employed by Pakistan Television (how did I not catch that to begin with?), so they're performers categorized by employer.  Mbinebri  talk ← 04:14, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question -- Is there a difference between the category and the target? What do those in the target category do that is different? One answer might be to rename to Category:Pakistan Television Corporation actors. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, and hope they are all Pakistanis! We don't have a category for BBC Actors, nor should we. - Fayenatic (talk) 22:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Faculty of Macquarie University

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The result of the discussion was: Rename (though I don't think this qualifies as a #4 speedy, since it is not included in the list of
enumerated naming conventions). Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
Propose renaming Category:Faculty of Macquarie University to Category:Macquarie University faculty
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Standard naming per Category:Academics by university in Australia. Tassedethe (talk) 15:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedily rename per nominator. According to
    wp:Cfd#Speedy_criteria #4, this is a speedy. Debresser (talk) 17:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Thermal power stations in India

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Thermal power stations in India to Category:Coal-fired power stations in India
Suggest renaming Category:Thermal power stations in Uttar Pradesh to Category:Coal-fired power stations in Uttar Pradesh
Nominator's rationale: Merge. It is clear that author of this category uses 'thermal power station' as a synonym for 'coal-fired power station'. Thermal power station is not a standard categorization currently used for power stations. If it is decided that the category has to remain, it should include coal, nuclear, geothermal, solar thermal electric, waste incineration stations, as also most of natural gas power stations as subcategories. It is not clear what should be the added value of this categorization. Beagel (talk) 11:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments – there is also
    talk) 12:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Mining disasters in the People's Republic of China

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: No consensus. (Typically, categories for "China" serve as categories that can contain subcategories for PRC & ROC, and also articles for pre-ROC events.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Mining disasters in the People's Republic of China to Category:Mining disasters in China
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Overcategorization. Beagel (talk) 10:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose These are separate countries and so these two categories are non-mergable. Debresser (talk) 17:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The People's Republic of China is also a part of China; therefore, they can't be different countries. Please do not confuse China and the Republic of China. Beagel (talk) 17:13, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reverse merge -- Thise in the target appear all to be in PRC, not Taiwan. If I am wrong, the Taiwanese cases should be purged and placed in a differnet category. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Why just category for China is not enough? China definitely covers also the People's Republic of China. If there will be any mining disaster's article related to Taivan, it is possible to reconsider and create more specific categories. Beagel (talk) 17:13, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Plays by

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Present names conform to the established naming conventions - suggest either discussion to amend guidelines or a nomination to rename non-conforming categories. --Xdamrtalk 20:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC) [reply]
Propose renaming:
Category:Plays by Henry Fielding to Category:Henry Fielding plays
Category:Plays by Seamus Heaney to Category:Seamus Heaney plays
Category:Plays by Lynn Nottage to Category:Lynn Nottage plays
Category:Plays by Thomas Middleton to Category:Thomas Middleton plays
Category:Plays by Voltaire to Category:Voltaire plays
Category:Plays by Derek Walcott to Category:Derek Walcott plays
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Standard naming in Category:Plays by author. Tassedethe (talk) 10:57, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Or we could rename all the others to conform with the parent and with such as
    talk) 12:38, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Esteghlal FC

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Esteghlal FC to Category:Esteghlal F.C.
Propose renaming Category:Esteghlal FC players to Category:Esteghlal F.C. players
Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match article Esteghlal F.C.. Tassedethe (talk) 10:41, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Environmental organizations based in South Africa

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Environmental organizations based in South Africa to Category:Environmental organisations based in South Africa
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Duplicate categories. I would have thought that SA English spells it organisations (per Category:Organisations based in South Africa) but I note spelling is not consistent. Tassedethe (talk) 08:24, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Millersville University alumni

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Millersville University alumni to Category:Millersville University of Pennsylvania alumni
Nominator's rationale: Rename to match proper name of university. Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 00:17, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Clarion University alumni

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Clarion University alumni to Category:Clarion University of Pennsylvania alumni
Nominator's rationale: Rename to match
proper name of university. Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 00:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Shippensburg University alumni

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Shippensburg University alumni to Category:Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania alumni
Nominator's rationale: Rename. to match proper name of university. Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 00:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:West Chester University

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:West Chester University to Category:West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Nominator's rationale: Rename to match
parent article and the proper names of the universities of the Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education. Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 00:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply
]
Propose renaming Category:West Chester University alumni to Category:West Chester University of Pennsylvania alumni
Nominator's rationale: Rename to match parent category above. Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 00:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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