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American women engineers

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at 2014 AUG 20. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:05, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Images of Jena Irene

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 07:29, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per
WP:SMALLCAT. There is no need to have a category for one image. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 21:47, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Mesoamerican art historians

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 07:09, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Music geography

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close. Please wait for the other discussion to be closed. – Fayenatic London 23:06, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I had a proposal for renaming to "Music by place" at July the 2nd, and got equal support and opposition, before I abandoned the proposal, because of this big new idea: Category:Music by place would've been well suited for categorizing the topic music by city, continent, country, region. But is that all that we want? Maybe we want to categorize by nationality, ethnicity, language and other attributes. These all categorize also by location of music, but not only by location, and can therefore not be included in Category:Music by place. My proposed title Category:Geographical categorization of music is best suited for combining a classification by place and the other geographical factors. It would make Category:Musica lot tidier, and add clarity and logic to the category system. -- CN1 (talk) 19:08, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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1933 establishments in Indonesia

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The result of the discussion was: rename/merge. – Fayenatic London 10:39, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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1935 establishments in the Republic of the Congo

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The result of the discussion was: rename per nomination. – Fayenatic London 14:40, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Pre-1960 establishments in The Democractic Republic of the Congo

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic L'ondon 13:23, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Military athletes

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The result of the discussion was: Delete all. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The term athlete in this context is ambiguous as to whether it refers to athletes in sports in general, or more narrowly competitors in the sport of
athletics. Athletics has quite a distinguished connection with the military, stemming from its origins to present day, so this is a term well in need of disambiguation. SFB 16:36, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Real tennis venues

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. – Fayenatic London 13:42, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The current name of the category sounds like it's refering to tennis venues that are real, and not venues of a game called "real tennis". עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Novels set in Namaqualand

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The result of the discussion was: delete, by weight of argument. I will move the two novels up into Category:Namaqualand anyway. – Fayenatic London 15:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Delete for
WP:SMALLCAT. Mikeblas (talk) 03:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Delete - October (novel) is already in Category:Novels set in South Africa, which is sufficient. 78.145.170.87 (talk) 09:07, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's a region straddling two countries, famous for its flora. Quite a few novels are set there, eg Flowers in the Sand. As coverage of African topics improves, this category is likely to grow. Andreas JN466 18:18, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep WP:SMALLCAT says, "Note also that this criterion does not preclude all small categories; a category which does have realistic potential for growth, such as a category for holders of a notable political office, may be kept even if only a small number of its articles actually exist at the present time." And location is a specific example of when it is appropriate to add a smaller category, "However, location may be used as a way to split a large category into subcategories. For example,Category:American writers by state." The intent of overcategorization editing guideline (and it is a guideline not policy) is to avoid trivial categories. Category:Novels set in Namaqualand is not a trivial categorization. Sydney Poore/FloNight♥♥♥♥ 20:05, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This category recognizes the pre-colonial region populated by the Nama people.Kmccook (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Neither of the current 2 articles mentions the Nama people. The actual novels may, but the current articles about them do not. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:29, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Boer War fiction and a ANC activism fit neatly into the South African category. No objection to recreating if additional articles are added. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:29, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This category could have made sense if parent Category:Novels set in South Africa would have been split into a multitude of regions already, but that is not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:54, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- This appears to refer to a region that straddles the South Africa/ Namibia boundary; if so, it might bhe legitimate, but in fact, both seem largely to be about South Africa. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:53, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete While Namaqualand does go well into Namibia, these novels are both set in South Africa. Also, categorizing novels by the non-political or cultural geographical area they are set in is not a widespread practice. Even if it was, we do not need it here. It just creates more small, not useful to navigation categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:03, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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