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Category:CIDD singles chart number-one singles

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:32, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not sure categorization needs to be taken to this level. There's no article on "Centre d'information et de documentation du disque" and the fact that a song reached number one in France is sufficiently defining. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:33, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: There's a major confusion concerning French charts on the English Wikipedia. The category is part of my attempt to fix the confusion between different charts. There will be an article on the centre (or rather on the chart it compiled from 1968 to 1977) sooner or later, don't worry. --Moscow Connection (talk) 05:54, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, it's the Category:Number-one singles in France that shouldn't exist in its current state. We should find out which chart a song charted on exactly and move it to the appropriate category. Cause I'm afraid there are websites that contain some strange lists of number-one songs without saying which charts those were. And people are using the websites on Wikipedia as sources for charts positions, and it's a real mess, believe me.
    Could you please not interfere with my attempt to improve the coverage of French charts on the English Wikipedia? I can promise I will add some more songs to the category. It is a step towards reliably sourcing French chart positions prior to 1984. --Moscow Connection (talk) 10:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Best to create the article and lists first before creating a category for it. Please remember that Wikipedia is a collaborative effort and we work towards consensus. If you put it out there in mainspace, anyone is free to contribute. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 23:57, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • "If you put it out there in mainspace, anyone is free to contribute." — That's exactly what I did. I put this category out in mainspace and I thought other people would notice and populate it with some articles. :-)
        By the way, French Wikipedians know about the chart. Here's an example of a discussion mentioning it I came across: fr:Discussion utilisateur:Lethiernois#article Dalida. --Moscow Connection (talk) 06:14, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for now until an article has been written and notability has been confirmed. There is no urgency in creating categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chinese air defence vehicles

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Self-propelled anti-aircraft weapons of China. @Mangoe and DexDor: Would one of you be willing to nominate the sibling categories as well? (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 22:57, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To match similar categories - e.g. Category:Air defence vehicles of Russia. DexDor (talk) 22:01, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd be ok with that rename of this category. However to rename other categories they should be cfd-tagged and checked for any articles about radars etc that wouldn't fit the new name. DexDor (talk) 22:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Phi Beta Kappa members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:36, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Recreation of category deleted at
Oculi (talk) 19:55, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
Keep. Previous deletion IMHO is not a justification for deleting in the present. I started it again because other honor societies have categories. Phi Beta Kappa, as one of the oldest and most prestigious, deserves a category just as much as other honor societies. Postcard Cathy (talk) 20:31, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Previous deletion at cfd is a prime reason for deletion. Please point out other honor societies which have categories and I will add them to the nom (they were all deleted in 2007 - see
    Oculi (talk) 21:20, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
    ]
That’s ludicrous. For example, someone could have created an article on Britney Spears when she was singing around he hometown, be it the church choir, school chorus, whatever. Fine, delete it as non notable. So, when she becomes an international superstar, are you going to delete the new article because the earlier article was deleted? In this example, it is an issue of timing. In other cases, such as this, it could be that the original reason to delete was erroneous. Postcard Cathy (talk) 23:38, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no objection to
    Oculi (talk) 10:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Then to be consistent, delete all the other honor society categories as well as the other Phi Beta categories. Otherwise all the people listed here can be transferred to the parent category. And there is absolutely no reason why Phi Beta Kappa should be singled out while othe honor society categories remain.Postcard Cathy (talk) 23:50, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:OSE. Feel free to nominate the other categories for deletion yourself if you think they should be deleted. DexDor (talk) 06:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Category:Space: 1999 spacecraft

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 23:20, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT, category is too small to be necessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:11, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Space: 1999 vehicles

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The result of the discussion was: single merge. Note that
Moon Buggy (Space: 1999) was already in Category:Fictional automobiles. (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 23:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT, category is too small to be necessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:10, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Fictional freighters

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:38, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Simply,
WP:SMALLCAT, the category has only 2 entries. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:01, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
Comment: Which nomination is that? I see a few related noms here, but I didn't see that claim. There's nothing at "Cargo ships" to indicate that it's intended only for real ships (maybe there should be?). I'm leaning toward merge on this, but if the feeling is that real vs. fictional should be broken out then keep would seem appropriate. DonIago (talk) 15:09, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's under
WP:CATDEF - "Articles on fictional subjects should not be categorized in a manner that confuses them with real subjects." – Fayenatic London 10:53, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
That's a guideline, but it's one which makes sense to me. I'd thus oppose merging with "Cargo ships", but merging with other fictional cats may still be merited. DonIago (talk) 15:52, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional tanks

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The result of the discussion was: selectively merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 23:40, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Almost all the entries in this category are robots, not tanks. The exception,
WP:NONDEF. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Trematodes

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 23:54, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category, currently Trematodes, is much more commonly referred to as "Trematoda." HNdlROdU (talk) 13:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Vodou festivals

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The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per
WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. No need to merge, the article is already in Category:Vodou art and Category:Religious festivals in Benin. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Macross spacecraft

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The result of the discussion was: triple merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 00:03, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT, category is too small to be necessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:47, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
ZXCVBNM: Please do not propose merges to only one parent, which would remove the contents from the other hierarchies where they also belong. – Fayenatic London
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Category:Landships

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The result of the discussion was: Partially merge to Category:Armoured fighting vehicles. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT, when you split the real life articles from the fictional ones due to Wikipedia guidelines this category is very small. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:05, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Memorial Cup championship seasons

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close. Category no longer exists. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Empty category. Its former articles were not deemed notable and redirected to league season articles instead. Flibirigit (talk) 00:23, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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