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Category:People of Portuguese India

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 19:52, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: same thing, both created by Johnpacklambert. ('From' has been preferred to 'of' in such categories by former country.)
Oculi (talk) 22:55, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Members of the General Council (Andorra) 2019-present

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The result of the discussion was: merge to
(non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 19:54, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: There are already many categories titled like this for meetings of a national legislature, like Category:Members of the 1st Congress of Deputies (Spain) or Category:Members of the 2nd Dáil (Ireland). There is an associated page 8th General Council. In addition, this category title is now obsolete, as there was an election in April 2023 and a new legislature sits in the present. Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:40, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Festivals by year of establishment

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete, as appropriate. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 19:55, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
More nominations
Nominator's rationale: delete/merge per
WP:SMALLCAT (1-2 articles). Note that more work will still need to be done to this tree after this proposal. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:13, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Category:19th-century avalanches

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 20:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale:
WP:SMALLCAT (1 article). No merging needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Earthquakes by century

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 20:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT (1-3 articles). Not enough content per century at this stage. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:13, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Floods by century

Category:Horror games

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 6#Category:Horror games

Category:Fictional geologists

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The result of the discussion was: Move and Delete. All targets in categories discussed moved to either Category:Fictional scientists in films and/or Category: Fictional scientists in television and admin requests sent to close the now empty cats SanAnMan (talk) 14:13, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge targets into either
WP:SMALLCAT. All geologists are scientists, and there is no need for such a narrow categorization when a much fuller and broader cat already exists. In fact Randy Marsh (South Park) is already listed in both cats. SanAnMan (talk) 14:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Merge One article and one redirect. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 16:07, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is a bit confusing to start a discussion about categories that have not been nominated yet. Anyway, what would be the rationale for
    WP:SMALLCAT, I guess. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:56, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Floods by decade (pt. 2)

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 20:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT. The second part of the nom below. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Cancelled boxing matches

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The result of the discussion was: merge & revert.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:19, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale:
WP:SMALLCAT, not enough other cancelled boxing matches, so makes sense to upmerge. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:58, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Oppose Per
    WP:SMALLCAT: a category which does have realistic potential for growth... may be kept even if only a small number of its articles actually exist at the present time. There is a potential for growth plus overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Teterev53 (talk) 14:32, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Small categories are accepted in subcategorization scheme when it aids reader navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:27, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No such words in
WP:SMALLCAT. Teterev53 (talk) 00:26, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Do you propose to upmerge Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in Fiji (two items now) also? Teterev53 (talk) 00:28, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not part of a large subcategorization scheme, in fact a whole lot of micro-categories have been created.
    WP:SMALLCAT still applies and the creation of these micro-categories should be reverted. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:39, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • It is not about the number of subcategories but about the size of them. If many subcategories are small then the tree is not large. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • What size is needed for large scheme? Where I can read about it? The subcategories consist of big number of pages: 154 (association football), 107 (athletics), 25 (baseball), 38 (basketball) 35 (cricket), 68 (cycling), 17 (field hockey), 48 (figure skating), 41 (ice hockey), 94 (motorsport) etc. So, more than 700+ pages included in the subcats. Is it a large scheme or not? How much articles needed for large scheme? Teterev53 (talk) 13:45, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not a large scheme because only a limited of sports subcategories have a vast amount of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since this discussion started, Teterev53 has created Category:Cancelled judo competitions and Category:Cancelled chess competitions, both SMALLCAT violations. Which is the only reason that their above statement As of now, each sport is included in Category:Cancelled sports events by sport is true. It was fine as it was, with SMALLCATs merged up into Category:Cancelled sports events, like how it was a few days ago. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per Aidan721. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:43, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for Now with no objection to recreation if the category ever grows to 5+ articles (not redirects). - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:30, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you propose to change
    WP:SMALLCAT and remove the words unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme? Teterev53 (talk) 00:23, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]

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Mandatory Palestine expatriates

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge
SMALLCATs
.
Nominator's rationale: To avoid ambiguity in the name of the country. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:54, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Apes from language studies

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Individual apes involved in language studies Timrollpickering (talk) 11:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All category members except the main, Great ape language, are about individual apes. Other categories about individual animals usually make this explicit. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 12:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Iraqi Jews by occupation

Sri Lankan people by occupation and ethnic or national origin

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 26#Sri Lankan people by occupation and ethnic or national origin

Sri Lankan civil servants by ethnicity

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The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 20:37, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_April_18#Category:Civil_servants_by_ethnicity, where people agreed to delete the tree despite the dubious decision to omit the subcategories, which were exclusively related to Sri Lanka with the exception of those pages in the Tamil one that aren't in the Sri Lanka category, who are Indians. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 11:05, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, trivial intersection between ethnicity and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:50, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian city-states

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 18#Category:Russian city-states

Category:Virtual Studio games

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The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 20:36, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_April_17#Category:Loriciel_games, where both participants noted that Virtual Studio was a later name of Loriciel. In fact, this category was tagged without ever being formally added to the nomination. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 10:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - Since Virtual Studio is basically Loriciels (see this source: https://archive.org/details/games-world-03/page/n9/mode/1up), i don't have any issues with the category merging with the Loriciel category. Roberth Martinez (talk) 21:22, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Murdered anarchists

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The result of the discussion was: rename to
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:33, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale:
Overcategorized intersection by identity trait—This is not a "combination that is recognized as a distinct/unique cultural topic in its own right", i.e., it would not be reasonable to create an article or list about this intersection. It also leads to classification of murder where it might be unclear or ambiguous, and implies a connection between the two attributes where there isn't always one. czar 04:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
  • No, it is a much better option, to be exact. Assassination is what matters here, not just a random murder. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree that assassination is politically relevant (and thus relevant to anarchist biographies), but I expect most of these belong in fact to Category:Executed anarchists, which already exists. If the category is renamed to Assassinated, someone will need to go through and double-check which bio goes where. I'm happy to do that if the category is renamed, if someone pings me about it. -- asilvering (talk) 21:22, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Floods by decade

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/delete Timrollpickering (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
more nominations
Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT. Do not need to merge Category:1990s floods in Africa to Category:1990s floods since articles are in yearly flood cats. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:18, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Floods in North America by decade

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge.
(non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 (d) 20:06, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: merge U.S. categories per
WP:SMALLCAT (1-3 articles). Delete North America categories which will then be empty (except 1910s which is merged). –Aidan721 (talk) 02:56, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Category:American League pre-1969 standings templates