Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 27

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February 27

Category:Private schools in Leeds

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:Private schools in Leeds

Category:Greece in the Roman era

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:Greece in the Roman era

Category:Ontologists and Category:Metaphysics writers

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:Ontologists and Category:Metaphysics writers

Category:Filling stations in Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:16, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories Estopedist1 (talk) 09:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Category:Plastics companies of Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 09:35, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Category:Proposed energy infrastructure in Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Along with only subcat with 1-member Estopedist1 (talk) 09:36, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Oppose: Many proposed infrastructure categories (particularly for smaller countries) contain only one or two entries, deleting them (not just Iceland categories) will make navigating the “proposed” categories by type (energy, transport) or by country more difficult. Hugo999 (talk) 00:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Belarusian rulers

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: delete, anachronistic category, these are Rus' rulers while Belarus did not exist yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:49, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete — good catch! History shows Marcocapelle has been trying to figure out proper placement in the tree for years. All content is already in more appropriate categories.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternative proposal: I would not be opposed to deleting it, because arguably it is indeed an anarchonistic category, but I would warn against the precedent that might set. We've got lots of categories of X-ian monarchs, e.g. Category:Italian monarchs, with lots of fun subcategories such as Category:Etruscan kings. You can argue that "Italy" didn't exist until 1861 (just like "Belarus" didn't exist until 1991) and so the Etruscan kings need to be removed, but that would wreck havoc to the entire category and its subcategories. And that's just one example. I'd hate to imagine what would happen to Category:German monarchs and its subcats if we decided that "Germany" didn't exist until 1871. Unless we'd like to challenge all these anachronisms (which I theoretically wholeheartedly agree with!), I would suggest we accept the current internationally recognised state borders for geographical categorisation purposes, and opt for a more pragmantic and limited alternative. Therefore, I would humbly suggest we revisit my proposal #12 at the Rulers CfD:
Rename
List of rulers of Belarus separately because it is complicated). Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
  • While I have my doubts about Category:Italian monarchs too, Italy is surely a different case than Belarus because it is called Italy since the Roman era. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That's a good point. On the other hand, the category itself says Monarchs of kingdoms within the boundaries of modern Italy from the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 AD onwards. So it defines geography not according to the Italian Peninsula (including Vatican City and San Marino, but excluding Sicily and Sardinia, and possibly some areas of northern Italy), but to the modern borders of the Italian Republic (since 1946, so it includes islands such as Sicily and Sardinia and not just the mainland; importantly it would exclude the Popes, because Vatican City is outside these borders), and explicitly excludes the Roman era (so it excludes pre-476 monarchs such as the Etruscan kings). We might consider these criteria somewhat arbitrary, but unless we reach an agreement to change it, I think we should apply it. That is also a reason to apply the modern borders of the Republic of Belarus. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:30, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I completely disagree with the latter. We should stick to what reliable sources say. These princes aren't considered to be Belarusian except in nationalistic propaganda. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    To my own surprise, in doing some searches on Google Scholar, I'm finding that you appear to be correct. "Italian prince(s)" is widely accepted as a normal phrase, whereas "Belarusian princes" is only mentioned in texts that either claim it to be a nationalistic concept, or very recent texts (last 5 years) that appear to be attempting to posit it as a legitimate scholarly concept. This effectively undermines support for my alternative proposal, as "Italian princes" is widely accepted, but "Belarusian princes" is not. Therefore I'm withdrawing my alternative proposal and supporting Delete now. Thanks for pointing this out. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:15, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support let's continue the work of eliminating anachronistic categories inspired by chauvinistic nationalism or irredentism. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:45, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1st millennium in Iceland

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:1st millennium in Iceland

Category:American football in Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:21, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:American football in Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 09:58, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination--Estopedist1 (talk) 07:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/upmerge. A large structure of neer-empty categories is more troublesome than it is useful in terms of navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 13:40, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Animal welfare organizations based in Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Animal welfare organizations based in Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 09:59, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination--Estopedist1 (talk) 07:18, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/upmerge. A large structure of neer-empty categories is more troublesome than it is useful in terms of navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 13:41, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Beer festivals in Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:25, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Beer festivals in Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 10:04, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:22, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/upmerge. A large structure of neer-empty categories is more troublesome than it is useful in terms of navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 13:42, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Confectionery companies of Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Confectionery companies of Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 10:15, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • @Estopedist1: please update the merge targets for this and the below nominations, keeping in mind my comments about the merge targets for the categories above. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:16, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/upmerge. A large structure of neer-empty categories is more troublesome than it is useful in terms of navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 13:42, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dairy products companies of Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:27, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Dairy products companies of Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 10:21, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:30, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:18, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/upmerge. A large structure of neer-empty categories is more troublesome than it is useful in terms of navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 13:43, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Defunct video game companies of Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:28, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Defunct video game companies of Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 10:29, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/upmerge. A large structure of neer-empty categories is more troublesome than it is useful in terms of navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 13:43, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Disaster prevention in Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:28, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Disaster prevention in Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 10:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:38, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Private schools in Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:28, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Private schools in Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 10:37, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:40, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:IPhone video game engines

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:IPhone video game engines

Category:MacOS-only software

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Withdrawn.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: This category is ambiguous. It can be interpreted to apply (a) to desktop platforms (i.e. no Windows or Linux version), or (b) to all platforms (i.e. no iOS/iPadOS version either). Since it's very common for apps to be exclusive to the Mac (no Windows port), while still having an iOS version, this ambiguity is unfortunate. What should we do? Rename it to clarify that it only refers to desktop platforms? Split it to Category:Software exclusive to Apple platforms? DFlhb (talk) 16:34, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
More concise alternative: Category:Apple-exclusive software DFlhb (talk) 01:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Exclusive to Apple platforms" (however named) would move the contents from this, a subcat of Category:Macintosh-only software, to a new parent of that one. I suggest just clarifying in the description that the category is for software that has no desktop implementations other than MacOS, although it may also run on Apple mobile platforms (iOS / iPadOS / WatchOS). If people want to know what runs on Mac and Apple mobile but no other desktop platforms, they can check category intersections e.g. MacOS-only software and iOS software. – Fayenatic London 15:03, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Fayenatic london:: seems like a good idea; my only worry is the risk of IP editors/newbies not bothering to read that new description, and removing the article from this category because it has an iOS version. That would create a maintenance burden, but I suppose it can't be helped, unless someone can come up with a clearer category name. What do you think about "macOS-only desktop software"? Or would this change be unnecessary? DFlhb (talk) 18:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DFlhb: that name is concise. It might still be misinterpreted as meaning desktop-only, excluding Apple multi-platform apps, but rightly understood I think it's an improvement. It would also work for renaming the subcats accordingly. For clarity, do you want to withdraw this nomination, and start a fresh one for renaming along with the subcats? – Fayenatic London 10:34, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Fayenatic london: I've never tried a bundle nomination before, so, might get it wrong. But I'll try. DFlhb (talk) 13:00, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You know what? I think I'll just go with your initial suggestion, and add a note at the top of these categories. Much simpler. DFlhb (talk) 13:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Penjara F.C. players

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale:
WP:SMALLCAT created for just one person. As always, every football club that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment there's one former player for that club with a Wikipedia article -- there would have to be five or six people to file here before a dedicated category was justified, and it doesn't aid navigation to obsessively categorize players for every single team that ever existed. Bearcat (talk) 17:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 16:02, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I have, fairly quickly and easily, expanded the category (by clicking 'what links here' from the parent article) so it is now at 6 entries and therefore more than justified. @Bearcat and Marcocapelle:. GiantSnowman 16:05, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and delete
    WP:NOTABLE, as "not many records are kept or known"? ... it doesn't aid navigation to obsessively categorize players for every single team that ever existed.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 10:19, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • GiantSnowman, I'm completely ignorant about the subject, totally reliant on the article. Let's see what it says:
    1. Ground: Kajang Prison Complex Mini Stadium — inside a prison complex.
    2. Owner: Malaysia Prison Department Sports Council - owned by a prison department.
    3. The Prisons were first known to play football sometime in the 1950s. — started by Prisons; were they for prisoners, or wardens, or both?
So let's
WP:V delete the article as well, as it is full of false and unsubstantiated information?
William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:10, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • Delete -- I have added a main article link to the article to Penjara F.C., but it appears to be an amateur club, for which we do not normally allow categories. On the other hand it now has 6 articles. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:06, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete more akin to
    WP:OCASSOC since it was an amateur club. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]

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Category:Regulation in Iceland

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Regulation in Iceland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. One article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 18:59, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:48, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Icelandic sexologists

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Icelandic sexologists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 19:38, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:51, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/upmerge. A large structure of neer-empty categories is more troublesome than it is useful in terms of navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 13:46, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Icelandic blind people

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:34, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

:* Propose deleting Category:Icelandic blind people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Sole article to be upmerged to parent category/categories. Estopedist1 (talk) 19:38, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
  • @Estopedist1: for the closer of the discussion you need to specify exactly to which categories you propose this to be merged. See merge proposals from other editors. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I updated the nomination --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question How many individuals are needed to not qualify as small category? I was able to find several more blind people who should have been in their respective national categories. Mason (talk) 21:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most editors require at least 5 articles in a category. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:25, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. I was able to populate most of the categories with 5+ people with very little effort. I vote that we keep all of the categories were there are at least 3 people in them. Mason (talk) 23:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/upmerge. A large structure of neer-empty categories is more troublesome than it is useful in terms of navigation. Place Clichy (talk) 13:47, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Television episodes about the Crusades

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The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
@Marcocapelle and Jc37:
  1. target Category:Television episodes about wars is already under Category:Television episodes by period of setting, so no need to re-parent.
  2. Do we really expect to have many more individual television episodes set during the Crusades? (No, not many.)
  3. Looking at the tree Category:Television episodes by period of setting, there are an awful lot of onesy twosy categories. We can discourage this, while sustaining the tree in place.
  4. If and only if we eventually discover that a tree is not needed by a significant number of smaller nominations such as this, then nominate the larger tree.
  5. Large nominations are a terrible idea. They nearly always result in no consensus, so then we have to split them into smaller nominations anyway.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 10:19, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 20:52, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: There is now also a Robin Hood episode redirect. – Fayenatic London 14:30, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The role of the Crusades is very small here, better purge this redirect before merging. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 17:58, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge As nominated. It's hard to imagine a single episode being about the crusades based on travel time. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jagoi

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:37, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Jagoi redirects to Dances of Manipur, so it makes sense to do the equivalent for categories. We could also reverse merge, but then Category:Jagoi would look weird within Category:Dances of India where Category:Dances of Indian state Foo is the norm. Pichpich (talk) 17:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Jagoi" is any dance of
    Meitei dances (which I am planning to create in the near future). --Haoreima (talk) 18:37, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
We should probably also rename Category:Manipuri dance to Category:Manipuri_Raas_Leela too as it would appear to be a duplicate Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 20:01, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Thriller drama films and sub

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:Thriller drama films and sub

Category:Wikipedia:WikiProject WikiLoop/Inconsistent Birthday/Fixed

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:Wikipedia:WikiProject WikiLoop/Inconsistent Birthday/Fixed

Category:Pages that won't purge

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Unclear what the purpose of this category is. If there is an issue with a page a bug report should be opened and it will eventually be handled. Gonnym (talk) 14:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Extra genres

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:Extra genres

Category:Television news program articles using incorrect naming style

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7#Category:Television news program articles using incorrect naming style

Category:Articles with disproportional geographic scope

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:41, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: Maintenance category generated by {{
Over coverage}}, which was merged to {{Globalize}} following a TFD. {{Globalize}} has its own maintenance category, so this is now unused and not needed. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 12:35, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Category:Hit singles not on Spotify

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:41, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale:
defining characteristics, not just on every random factoid anybody can think of. It's also a transient characteristic that can change in the future, with songs being added to Spotify that weren't there before or being pulled from Spotify for one reason or another, making it effectively unmaintainable even if there were a vaild argument in favour of it. Plus, given the sheer number of music streaming platforms that exist now, this would lead to extreme category bloat as we created parallel categories for Deezer and Tidal and Apple Music and YouTube and Bandcamp and Google Play and SoundCloud and and and... Bearcat (talk) 12:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Yes there are many parts of wikipedia that are transient.
Streaming is now the primary way that people listen to music, and Spotify is the biggest audio streaming platform.
If a song is considered important enough to merit its own page on wikipedia, you might expect readers will want to go and listen to the song to check it out.
Of course the hope is that these songs will be highlighted and the rights owners will make the songs available and then maybe even remove the category themselves. Earlpurple (talk) 16:35, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's not the job of the Wikipedia category system to express dissatisfaction with other websites or companies. We categorize topics on the basis of their
defining characteristics, not on the basis of wanting to light a fire under another website's ass. Bearcat (talk) 16:12, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Category:Sportspeople of Latin American descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization.
Wikipedia:Category naming
does not provide for by region encapsulating by country.
Summary: There's no rhyme nor reason for this convoluted tree, entangled with others, very few articles. Continuing removals after categories were emptied by previous discussions.
Followup to:
  1. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12#Category:Latin American sportspeople by ethnic or national origin result delete.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 10:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, trivial intersection between descent and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:53, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The goal should be to make things easier to find. This does the opposite and creates confusion. Pichpich (talk) 17:58, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per the precedent of previous discussions. Regional/continental intersections at that level are a bad idea, and likely to be used only as a privacy for race. Place Clichy (talk) 13:51, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Possibly Keep the second as a useful container. Not sure about American, but delete the rest. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:10, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sportspeople of South American descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization.
Wikipedia:Category naming
does not provide for by region encapsulating by country.
Summary: There's no rhyme nor reason for this convoluted tree, entangled with others, very few articles. Continuing removals after categories were emptied by previous discussions.
Followup to:
  1. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 13#Category:South American sportspeople by ethnic or national origin result delete.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, trivial intersection between descent and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:54, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The goal should be to make things easier to find. This does the opposite and creates confusion. Pichpich (talk) 17:58, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per the precedent of previous discussions. Regional/continental intersections at that level are a bad idea, and likely to be used only as a privacy for race. Place Clichy (talk) 13:52, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete provided something is retained as a container parent for the tree. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Finnish garrisons