Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Military history of the Ottoman Empire
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:28, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Military history of the Ottoman Empire
Neglected portal. Parent portal was deleted at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ottoman Empire.
Five never-updated selected articles from April 2007. One never-updated entry from January 2008. Portal:Military history of the Ottoman Empire/Selected article/4 received a minor update in July 2015.
Six bios from April 2007. Portal:Military history of the Ottoman Empire/Selected biography/3 was updated once in May 2008.
Three selected events from April 2007. Two from January 2008. All never updated.
talk) 04:07, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete per the nom. This portal has essentially been abandoned for over a decade. Since 2006, the lead of WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of readers and maintainers. This decrepit portal has had over a decade of no maintainers and it had an abysmal 11 views per day from January 1 to June 30 2019 (while the head article Ottoman Empire had 9,657 views per day in the same period). Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as over a decade of hard evidence and the deletion of the parent Portal:Ottoman Empire shows the Military history of the Ottoman Empire is not a broad enough topic to attract readers and maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 05:17, 27 August 2019 (UTC)]
Analysis of Military History Portals
The following table shows information about all of the recently nominated military and war portals, as well as Portal:History, which is a main page portal, and Portal:War (to which Portal:Military History redirects).
| Title | Portal Page Views | Article Page Views | Ratio | Percent | Comments | Articles | Notes | Baseline |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Military history of Africa | 8 | 68 | 8.50 | 11.8% | Originator inactive since 2018. Little maintenance since 2007, apparently none since 2014. Head article tagged as needing sources since 2014. | 12 | Jan19-Jun19 | |
| Spanish American wars of independence | 9 | 460 | 51.11 | 2.0% | Little maintenance since 2011 except drive-by edits. | 23 | Jan19-Jun19 | |
| Military of Greece | 10 | 204 | 20.40 | 4.9% | Originator inactive since 2018, Little maintenance since 2008. Page views based on two articles, Military of Greece and Military history of Greece , 186+18 |
28 | Jun19-Jul19 | |
| Military history of France | 10 | 232 | 23.20 | 4.3% | Originator edits sporadically, most recently in May 2019. No maintenance since 2010. | 42 | Jan19-Jun19 | |
| Military history of the Ottoman Empire | 11 | 9657 | 877.91 | 0.1% | Doesn't have a head article by same name; figure is for former nation. Portal:Ottoman Empire has been deleted. No updates since 2008. Originator inactive since 2018. | 12 | Jan19-Jun19 | |
| Napoleonic Wars | 17 | 3156 | 185.65 | 0.5% | Very large numbers of subpages. Last significant maintenance in 2011. Tweaks in 2018. Originator globally locked in 2019. Pageviews also 17 Jan-Feb 19, with 3418 for lead article Jan-Feb 19. | 14 | Jan19-Feb19 | |
| Crusades | 19 | 4857 | 255.63 | 0.4% | Originator inactive since 2010. Only drive-by edits since 2010. | 29 | Jan19-Jun19 | |
| Military of ancient Rome | 30 | 253 | 8.43 | 11.9% | Originator inactive since 2013. Very little maintenance since 2009, none since 2013. | 9 | Jan19-Jun19 | |
| War | 155 | 2024 | 13.06 | 7.7% | Maintenance has been inconsistent but has resumed. 61 articles and complete set of anniversaries. Originator inactive since 2006. | 61 | Jan19-Feb19 | |
| History | 1996 | 2888 | 1.45 | 69.1% | Originator last edited 2013. Tweaked April 2019. | 61 | Jan19-Feb19 | |
As can be seen, none of the portals that have been nominated have more than 30 daily pageviews. None of the portals that have been nominated have a current maintainer or have been recently maintained.
- Delete – There is no short-term reason to expect that a re-creation of this portal will address the problems. Any proposed re-creation of this portal using a more modern design, and taking into account the failures of many portals, can go to Deletion Review. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:29, 29 August 2019 (UTC)]
- Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:War), without creating duplicate entries. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:16, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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