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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 29, 2008

Death In Hounslow → Is It Legal?

The result of the debate was Re-target to
List of Is It Legal? episodes. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Also
    Whodunnit? (Is It Legal episode)

Both are unlikely things for somebody to type in, only two of twenty-one episodes, and redirect to non-existent sections of a page. ╟─TreasuryTag►contribs─╢ 19:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep
    Whodunnit? (Is It Legal episode) is also plausible, for the same reason, but because "Whodunnit?" is a more general term, it's also plausible that someone would use the parentheses to search for it. PaulGS (talk) 07:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Retarget both to
    List of Is It Legal? episodes - which, ironically enough, only contains these two (presumably it was started and never finished). That article has been considered for deletion in the past, but as long as it is still around, these titles should redirect there. Terraxos (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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X → Template:X

The result of the debate was retarget appropriately if possible, otherwise delete, except for
Near-close central unrounded vowel
is kept pending the outcome of the template.

Deleted:

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the Orphanage
07:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC) All others were retargeted, excepting the "cite" template redirects, as those were withdrawn from discussion.--
the Orphanage 05:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Retargeted.--
the Orphanage 07:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Template:Articleissues
Neutral - This template is applicable to >50% of Wikipedia articles. I created the redirect, but I won't raise a fuss if it gets deleted due to policy.   — C M B J   20:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, no worries.--
talk) 16:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
]
To be fair, nom was unaware that I had retargeted both of them two days earlier. B.Wind (talk) 02:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:Close_back_compressed_vowel
Retarget. (See next.) kwami (talk)
Should be retargeted to one of the articles the template is transcluded in. kwami (talk) 18:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. Original target template is nothing but redlinks. B.Wind (talk) 02:18, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted to Columbia River. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 18:32, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think that
Featured article shortly. -Pete (talk) 19:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:22, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:Ethnic_groups_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted to FC Dynamo-3 Kyiv. Is there any real point to the original target of this CNR (a template that spits out a single Wikilink)? 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 18:42, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:FeatureDetectionCompVisNavbox
  • Template:Footer_Olympic_Champions_Badminton_Doubles_Women
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Target was blanked by author; tagged for speedy deletion. B.Wind (talk) 03:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:18, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Once the above two redirects are deleted, the non-template "templates" of the same name can be moved. Whether both targets need to be taken to TfD or AfD is best discussed in another forum. B.Wind (talk) 00:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:List_of_NFL_team_first-round_draft_picks
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted.--
the Orphanage 07:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Retargeted.--
the Orphanage 07:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Retargeted. This one really needs its own article, though.--
the Orphanage 07:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
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  • Template:Muppet_films
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See "Close front compressed vowel" above. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 17:57, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:North_Sydney_squad_-_NSWRFL_season_1922_premiers
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:Pallacanestro_Cantù_1981-82_Euroleague_champions
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:Pashtun_nationalism
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:PMP_Newspapers
Redirected. B.Wind (talk) 03:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:Portuguese_Liga_seasons
Redirected. B.Wind (talk) 03:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:Presidents_of_Trentino-Alto_Adige/Südtirol
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 00:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:See_also2
  • Template:Government_of_Slovakia_1994-1998
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 02:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 04:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Retargeted.--
the Orphanage 07:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Retargeted. B.Wind (talk) 03:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All of these are redirects to templates that are the exact same name as the template. Because of the technical features of the MediaWIki system, it is not necessary to have an article redirect to a template, because the system treats {{
Template:X. Therefore, these are all inappropriate redirects that can be deleted as they serve no useful purpose and can only distract the reader by pointing them at the backroom of the project. MBisanz talk 14:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Seems wise to me. Sardanaphalus (talk) 14:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the record, the 'cite' redirects have recently (in August) been discussed here and been kept for a clear consensus that they are useful as linked on the respective talk pages.--
    Tikiwont (talk) 15:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep most because they mostly seem to be the result of pagemoves - a template created in the wrong space (or before the separate Template namespace existed) or content that was subsequently turned into a template. While they may strike you as useless, I often find these pagemove leftovers useful when investigating the history of a page. None of them seem to be particularly confusing to readers, at least not as they are currently used.
    I can't support the argument that they are somehow 'distracting' to a reader. Unless they're used incorrectly, no reader will ever find them (since in an ideal world, redirects like these are orphaned) but if they 'are' used incorrectly, then the redirect will point the reader to the right place. Rossami (talk) 15:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, but they are pagemoves from after the creation of the pagemove log, so we have a record for GFDL purposes. MBisanz talk 16:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • GFDL compliance is one of the reasons that we keep those pagemove redirects but not the only one. Even with the pagemove log, they have some value to me. Rossami (talk) 16:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
While it doesn't matter to me either way, whatever is decided in this discussion should have ramifications for future instances of a move from article space to template. If we decide that these deletions are appropriate for example, then a future article space redirect can be marked for speedy delete. Likewise, if the opposite occurs then future discussions can be shortened by referring to this discussion. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 16:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right now these pages would fall under
R2, but since some of them were created in 2007, I felt it prudent to bring them all to RFD. MBisanz talk 16:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
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AM_Station_Data
Anglican_Bishops_of_Plymouth
Articleissues
Campaignbox_Alto_Perú_Campaign_1810-1817
Cquote
FeatureDetectionCompVisNavbox
Infobox_Theatre_Festival
List_of_Dish_Network_International_Channels (repeating B.Wind's "delete" recommendation to facilitate a move)
List_of_Dish_Network_SD_Channels_2-899 (ditto)
Locations_in_the_World_with_British_names
Metropolitan_of_Ontario
Mexican_diaspora
National_symbols_of_Poland (see discussion above)
Refimprove
Scandinavia_in_World_War_II
See_also2
WPCLE
WWE_video_games
Xin_Dynasty_Sovereigns
147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 16:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Theatreography → Theatre

The result of the debate was delete. WJBscribe (talk) 23:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No such word exists; it shouldn't appear in Wikipedia unless it's listed in the

OED or another similarly reliable dictionary. DionysosProteus (talk) 14:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

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Frost Atronach → The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

The result of the debate was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect is simply one of numerous attackable foes in the game for which the target article pertains to. Since none of the other game creatures have such redirects, and indeed such a thing would be ridiculous, this should be deleted. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 13:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia almanac → Wikipedia:Almanac

The result of the debate was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate CNR to a wikipedia space page. Does not link to encyclopedic content. MBisanz talk 02:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep for historical reasons. This redirect used to point to content that has been moved several times. It's a useful pointer for those of us who might need to investigate the history. Furthermove, the accidental omission of the colon strikes me as a plausible typo. Rossami (talk) 16:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I find the link useful. --VictorC (talk) 17:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians → Wikipedia:Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians

The result of the debate was Re-targeted to meta. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate CNR to a wikiproject, non-notable and not content, readers would not be interested in it. MBisanz talk 02:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep but Redirect to Meta:Association_of_Inclusionist_Wikipedians instead. I found this on a simple use of the Search Box for "Association of Inclusionist", so why make things difficult for others? —— Shakescene (talk) 03:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but Redirect As per Shakescene. Inclusionist (talk) 14:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as retargetted. There is no reasonable possibility that readers will expect to find anything but that content when following this link. And the number of inbound links and the project's history both demonstrate that readers are interested in this topic. Rossami (talk) 16:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I find the link useful. I think that other users can find the link useful. Thus I say leave the link. Given, I can't even see why this is even an issue. MBisanz says it's not interesting, but most of us are nurds. Nurds are interested in the most counter-intuitive things. --VictorC (talk) 17:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, but just because we don't want to tweak off our inclusionist friends. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 22:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Prominent marxists → Category:Marxist theorists

The result of the debate was retarget to
the Orphanage 07:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply
]

Non-NPOV redirect to a category, not all marxist theorists are "prominent" and we shouldn't have this confusing CNR that says they are. MBisanz talk 02:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Cat:Language icons → Category:Language icons

The result of the debate was Delete. Since there are no objections, even from me as the creator, I'm going ahead and closing this one. Call it a G7 if you like, but consensus below seems clear. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 14:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CNR shortcut, that well isn't really a shortcut, and its in the article space, so it should be deleted. MBisanz talk 02:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - Not really sure what my thinking was here, to be honest - Can't imagine it's a high-traffic page to warrant a shortcut, especially one that isn't much of a shortcut. No objection to deletion. I was under the impression that CAT: links were parsed as CATEGORY:, in much the same way that WP:ANI, for example, is parsed as Wikipedia:ANI, which redirects properly to ANI. Like I said, no problem with deletion. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 03:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It does seem to be an unnecessary redirect - cross namespace redirects should be used sparingly. Gnome de plume (talk) 19:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete as originator of redirect has no objection to deletion, above. Aside from a retargeting, a bot-edit, and the tagging for the rfd, there has been no substantive change in the page. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 22:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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