Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 18

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January 18

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 18, 2016.

Bomb Trains

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:01, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, I'm failing to see a neutral connection between the redirect and the target. -- Tavix (talk) 22:18, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Mysterious monument under Sea of Galilee

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. Both the redirect and target article have been speedy deleted under
WP:G5. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 01:50, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
]

Silly name, and that it's a monument is hardly an established fact. Drmies (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A link to the other redirects, for interest. Not adding them to this discussion at this time, but someone else can if they want. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:12, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Happy Birthday (song)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Happy Birthday to You. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 14:17, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to the

Dr. King.) BDD (talk) 18:11, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
]

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Military History Journal

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:00, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a misleading redirect. The Military History Journal has

books} 12:31, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
]

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ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ (song)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 26#ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ (song)

Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:53, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Since Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_January_5#ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ was closed with no consensus to disambiguate, it wouldn't make sense for Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz (disambiguation) to exist, especially since nothing at Alphabet (disambiguation) is known as "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz." This could be a good time to either develop disambiguation ideas or confirm the other result. -- Tavix (talk) 02:09, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Marie Françoise Sophie

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The result of the discussion was delete all not already speedied. JohnCD (talk) 13:53, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is a follow-up to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 September 11#Francoise Gay. It's another Neelix exercise in creating random permutations of "Marie Françoise Sophie Gay" without checking to see if they are used. -- Tavix (talk) 01:54, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete like all the other times he did this. Legacypac (talk) 02:42, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - this person isn't commonly known by any of these names. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as above.
I'm tempted to start an essay
WP:SURPRISE
. For example, if I type "Marie Francoise G" in the search drop-down I get a list with both the version without the cedilla and the one with it: how am I to know that they are (or are not) the same topic?
It seems to me that WP's search, and perhaps its autocomplete, filter out some redirects to the same target, but even so, which ones does it choose from the candidate set? I doubt it bases its choice on the rcat. In any case, as a reader I should not have to guess the filtering algorithm.
On diacritics permutations in particular, these days there is little need for them. It used to be standard to create {{
WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS, should probably be changed, but I don't want to wander into that minefield; for the purpose of search it doesn't matter that readers may not be able to type letters with diacritics, but I suppose there are valid uses that don't involve typing (unspecified there). Si Trew (talk) 05:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
]
I've noticed that selective redirect behaviour in the search box too, and half-drafted a proposal about it a week or so ago, but then deleted it. I was thinking that it would be beneficial to be able to tag redirects as [in]eligible for search results (in a similar fashion as {{R unprintworthy}}) so that we could control which redirects appear in search results, but I ran out of time to finish it, then thought better of the whole thing. But now I'm thinking about it again. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:57, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be happy to work with you on it. Si Trew (talk) 19:22, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Bhagvad-Gita: treatise of self-help - transcreative verse with codification of interpolations - BS Murthy

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:50, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete highly implausible, as well as misleading. No mentions of a "treatise of self-help, "BS Murthy," etc. -- Tavix (talk) 01:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - I don't have any idea why someone thought this obviously promotional creation would be better off as a redirect, and not speedy deleted, but maybe the speedy criteria were less developed in 2006. Anyway this is entirely useless as a redirect, and purports to be in the nonexistent "Bhagvad-Gita" namespace. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thankfully, this does seem less common today. I tend to vacillate between cursing the editors who simply turned bad articles into bad redirects and realizing that they were typically just non-admins trying to
effectively delete pages. There may have been some short-term benefits to this, but ultimately it's just kicking the can down the road. And we're the highway cleanup patrol. --BDD (talk) 17:28, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
]
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Category:Pacific Gas & Electric songs

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted,
G7, by RHaworth (talk · contribs). (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 15:30, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
]

Page correctly moved to page Category:Pacific Gas & Electric (band) songs. This page is no longer needed. LongLiveMusic (talk) 01:19, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete per
    criterion G7 (tagged). This redirect was created by the nominator as a result of a page move of a category that they created a few hours ago. The "category redirect" is currently an empty category. Seems rather uncontroversial. Steel1943 (talk) 03:27, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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