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The result of the discussion was keep. Redirects are cheap ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:23, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Ero Manga Sensei - My Little Sister and the Locked Room → Eromanga Sensei  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The redirect title was never officially used by any English licensor, and was only used as an unofficial title by illegal translation sites. The page was only kept because some of the article text was copied when the article was recreated under the title

• Delete per nom. Not much was copied over to the new article when created for a histmerge. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:43, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• I mean if it is a title used, even unofficially, probably keep. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep - The title isn't official, I suppose, but I see it used by various publications. This includes a
  Crunchyroll.com article. I'm not sure, but this appears worth keeping. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]

• Looking at it, it seems that "My Little Sister and the Locked Room" is actually just a translation of a Japanese subtitle (which may or may not be official; note that
  csdnew 06:41, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep as common unofficial title per Galobtter, CoffeeWithMarkets. Raymond1922 (talk) 17:02, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Keep 1-4, Delete 5-8. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 22:14, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Mario 1 → Super Mario Bros.  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Mario 2 → Super Mario Bros. 2  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Mario 3 → Super Mario Bros. 3  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Mario 4 → Super Mario World  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Mario 5 → Super Mario 64  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Mario 6 → Super Mario Sunshine  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Mario 8 → New Super Mario Bros. Wii  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

During my close of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 24#Mario 7, I discovered this is one of a series of "Mario #" redirects from 1-8. During that discussion, it was pointed out there are other Mario series that have at least 8 titles, such as Mario Kart and Mario Party, so these can be seen as vague. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:06, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Pinging the pingable participants in the aformentioned discussion:
  VibeScepter. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete all. Yes, I noticed all of these shortly after I discovered Mario 7, but decided to hold off on nominations pending the result of Mario 7. For these, there are video games in the Super Mario series that are considered either the first or second for its line of titles, such as Super Mario Land. It seems the current redirects only represent the games released for consoles, as opposed to handhelds. (This situation differs from the "Zelda 1, Zelda 2, ..., Zelda 19" set of redirects I found which the numbering includes handheld releases, so I'm still pondering how to fix/nominate those.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:20, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all Overly vague and not helpful._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 11:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep the first four as plausible (since Super Mario World was titled Super Mario Bros. 4: Super Mario World in Japan and pre-release American footage), delete the others. Raymond1922 (talk) 14:35, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget all1-4 to List of video games featuring Mario Other than Mario 3 which heavily favors Super Mario Bros. 3, the others could refer to anything in the series, so best to just leave the user look at the entire list and pick what they want. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:47, 2 February 2018 (UTC) updated 02:45, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Mario 5, Mario 6, Mario 8 as not really used since Mario 7 is gone. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:45, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep 1-3 as obviously relevant, neutral on 4 (I don't see any mention of its Japanese title in the target article), delete the rest. --NYKevin 22:23, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is mentioned in note A.--72.0.200.133 (talk) 18:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - I support deleting all of these, frankly. I suppose I'm more lukewarm on the first through fourth entries, though, and I can support going to the aforementioned 'List of video games featuring Mario'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:00, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep the first four: As per Raymond1922. 191.205.44.206 (talk) 11:18, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep 1-4, delete the rest, per Raymond1922A.--Alexandra IDV^talk 09:55, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:41, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Omega Cannon → Metroid Prime Hunters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Seems like it could be an overly generic sci-fi term to redirect to Metroid as apparently it appears in other games as well with a Google search. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment it is mentioned in the article, although it could be argued that
  Omega Supreme of Transformers also uses a cannon weapon. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:02, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]

• Weak Keep - I'm unsure about this, but not only is the weapon duly mentioned in the target article but it it does indeed appear to be a major element of the game's story-line. I'd rather that we not delete this. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:34, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete since it's a point in the article that is identified as a plot point, but expanding the subject further could potentially be
  was astonished that the redirect did not redirect to a Final Fantasy title due to its reoccurring use of the terms "Omega" and "Omega Weapon" in its titles; I had thought that "Omega Cannon" was either a incorrect name for "Omega Weapon" or an attack/move/item in one of the titles, with it possibly being an attack by one of the various "Omega Weapon"s (or even some in-game concept for a powerful weapon of some sort.) Steel1943 (talk) 12:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete unless someone wants to disambiguate between
  Striker Z, SD Sengokuden Musha Shichinin Shuu Hen, List of Mega Monster Battle characters, and Descent (video game) (via Raygun). Search results will probably work better here. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:38, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 09:16, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Boombox Cartel → Cold Water (song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not in target article.

• Delete. There is no indication in the target article why this should exist. Bradv 16:53, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The non-notable band did a remix of Cold Water, but that mix did not chart so it isn't notable for that article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as obscure reference per AngusWOOF's findings --Lenticel ^(talk) 13:36, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 09:16, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Xbox One Eighty → Xbox One  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I doubt that anyone would refer to the Xbox One in this way. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:21, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Not a product. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:00, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - It's a silly pejorative term that's not that notable in the first place. I agree. Deletion is the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not a realistic search term.
  Lepricavark (talk) 00:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result of the discussion was delete. Memes... ~ Amory (u • t • c) 01:44, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Xbox circle → Xbox 360  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

It's doubtful people will interpret "360" as "circle". _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:21, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete That would imply Xbox 0, which isn't a product. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:59, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this one's not realistic.
  Lepricavark (talk) 00:53, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result of the discussion was delete. List_of_Xbox_360_retail_configurations#Xbox_360_Elite would be a more reasonable target, but I don't think folks expect l33tspeak to work in encyclopedias... ~ Amory (u • t • c) 01:49, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Xbox 360 l33t → Xbox 360  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

It's doubtful people will use this search term. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:20, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Del33t per nom. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:58, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:12, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Ekkusu bokkusu sanrokumaru → Xbox 360  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per

• Delete per nom. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:24, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:11, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Sanctuary Fortress → Metroid Prime 2: Echoes  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Way too vague to redirect to Metroid Prime 2. Should be deleted to allow proper use of the search function. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:07, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, too vague of a term to redirect to a specific series. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:10, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I don't see any other fortresses named Sanctuary over at the Sanctuary (disambiguation) page. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:13, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, mentioned at the target article and I do not see evidence that it is too vague. My search was overwhelmingly related to Metroid. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• While noting Tavix' keep !vote, apparently Supergirl has a Fortress of Sanctuary, as well as a few other random assortments (Fallout 4, books about Jerusalem, etc.). Speaking of Supergirl, I actually think this could easily be a misnomer for Fortress of Solitude — which mentions Supergirl's Fortress of Sanctuary — so I'd go for a Retarget there, otherwise Delete. Not sure a dab would help. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 23:16, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per Amorymeltzer's comment. In a case like this, I don't see the true value in retargeting or a disambiguation page since the alternative option isn't a title match, and doesn't seem to be an alternative name or known misnomer for the subject either. I'm not sure about the other options mentioned since they weren't specific; if any turn out to be title matches, then a disambiguation page could be warranted, but that may have to be determined at a later time. For now, might as well have Wikipedia's search function best assist our readers. Steel1943 (talk) 13:08, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:11, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• List of minor Tomb Raider characters → Tomb Raider  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no list of minor characters in the target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Minor characters shouldn't be noted in the Wikipedia article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I agree. Wikipedia isn't meant for listing minor trivia about things. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:03, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:32, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Chrono Cross Timeline → Chrono Cross#Plot  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Article makes no mention of a timeline. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:54, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom, as search term not very plausible. --Cyfal (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 22:09, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Cronno trigger → Chrono Trigger  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible misspelling, cronno does not exist as a redirect. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unlikely typo. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep. Considering that the main character's name in this game is "Crono", misspellings like this are probably not that rare. Steel1943 (talk) 21:44, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Never mind ... Cronno doesn't exist. Steel1943 (talk) 21:47, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:32, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Time Egg → Chrono Trigger  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as
  WP:GAMECRUFT #7 (items) or weak retarget to Egg timer AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply
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The result of the discussion was retarget to CTD. I'll move the page to CTDs per the capitalization concerns ~ Amory (u • t • c) 22:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• CTDS → Chrono Trigger  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Overly vague abbreviation. Could also possibly mean

• Retarget - The plural form of the device known as a CTD (instrument) is 'CTDs'. This is mentioned in multiple sources such as here. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete no notable Wikipedia articles that use this with capital S. If it were CTDs then redirect to CTD dab as plural. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak retarget to CTD. A few topics there could be referred to in the plural, though capitalizing the S when doing so would be nonstandard and misleading. --BDD (talk) 18:26, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete, though I can now hear the music from that scene in my head! --BDD (talk) 18:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Good morning, Crono! → Chrono Trigger  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Quote not mentioned in article. Not even mentioned on the Wikiquote page of Chrono Trigger. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:45, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - This is indeed an actual quote from the video game series, and apparently it's something associated with a kind of recurring trope. At the same time, this little bit of information isn't particularly notable and falls into the kind of trivia that Wikipedia doesn't really cover. I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:03, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment only mentioned in 2 video game articles, so I can't tell if it is a popular enough catchphrase. [1] [2] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:22, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete the first, retarget the rest per the IP's suggestion. I'll do the same for the "grey" spellings too. --BDD (talk) 18:14, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Grayblue → The Blue and the Gray  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Gray-blue → The Blue and the Gray  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Gray blue → Agriades podarce  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• Gray & Blue → Blue and Gray (board game)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Four nearly identical redirects, with three different targets. Where should they go?

• Delete we deleted scores of combocolor Neelix redirects in the big clean up. These are all too general to justify picking one target. Legacypac (talk) 01:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Split opinion:
  • Retarget
    WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT
    based on usage is clearly the colour, not the species
  • Delete grayblue as vague & erroneous, not being the name of the target or of anything else
  • Weak retarget Gray & Blue to The Blue and the Gray (a disambiguation page), though I'm not opposed to deleting it