Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 4

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January 4

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 4, 2023.

Thien Hau Temple (Ho Chi Minh City)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 12#Thien Hau Temple (Ho Chi Minh City)

List of Jedi survivors of Order 66

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 11#List of Jedi survivors of Order 66

Ego and Non-Ego

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 11#Ego and Non-Ego

Education history 1

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 22:54, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the target article and the redirect unclear. The redirect grades like some sort of course that would be taught in a university or college. Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - was part of a series of pagemoves in 2019 by Steve gao 98 who seems to have been under the impression that it was necessary to have numbered "drafts". Other similar redirects have already been deleted. A7V2 (talk) 23:40, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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History teacher

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

A "history teacher" probably more teaches the subject at

just doing it due to the redirect having a history of retargetings.) Steel1943 (talk) 20:45, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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School observation

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 22:54, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 20:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Children's behavior problems

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 22:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article. In addition, this redirect is so specific that I'm not sure if there's any valid target for this redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 20:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Serves no current purpose. — The Anome (talk) 20:11, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • This seems like a fairly reasonable search term. I think although the current target doesn't explicitly mention this phrase, behavioural problems are discussed in the article, in particular the section Educational_psychology#Behavioral. That said, I think Child psychopathology is perhaps a better target, and better still might be some kind of DAB/set index where we could also include Developmental psychology, Child and adolescent psychiatry and Applied behavior analysis. A7V2 (talk) 00:05, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I totally agree that this term seems like it's a fairly reasonable search term. However, I believe it's just that: A search term. I believe trying to formulate someway to create a list article or disambiguation page based on this title would be unhelpful to our readers; I think this because primarily, none of these options are synonymous with the title of the redirect, but rather are topics which the subject of the redirect could relate to as a subtopic or a parent topic. In other words, I believe Wikipedia search results when looking up this term (Search results) would be more helpful than having readers pigeonholed into going to any specific page or list of pages when searching this term. Steel1943 (talk) 20:18, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This makes sense. Looking at the search results I'm happy to delete. That said, looking around this subject area navigation between the various articles, and their relationships between eachother, do seem to require too much subject knowledge but that's far beyond the scope of RfD. A7V2 (talk) 23:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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List of projects for use in physics education

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 22:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's no such list in the target article. In addition, this redirect was an article for four days in 2006 before it was

WP:BLARed. Steel1943 (talk) 19:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Theory of education

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 11#Theory of education

Paideutics

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 11#Paideutics

Education studies

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 11#Education studies

Mathematics education effects on the economy of the United States

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 22:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There does not seem to be any such topic mentioned in the target article. The content in the redirect's edit history was created as an article in 2008, but then was subject to a

WP:BLAR about two days after it was created. Steel1943 (talk) 19:29, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Algebra II/Trigonometry

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 22:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The situation with this redirect is a bit confounded. For one, the current target is someone accurate because both of these topics refer to some aspect of

WP:XY issue with these redirects since Algebra and Trigonometry are separate articles. Lastly, from what I recall about my previous mathematics education, there seems to be a considerable amount of intersection between the topics that are taught in "Algebra II" and "Trigonometry" to a point where trigonometry is almost considered part of algebra in whole and when someone refers to "Trigonometry", they are referring to algebra. For this reason, I think deletion may be the best option. Steel1943 (talk) 19:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Algebra I

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 6#Algebra I

Trivia (education)

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 22:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the title of the redirect and the title and subject of the target article, I do not believe that readers who are searching at this term are intended to look up the target article. Recommend either deletion (preferred option) or redirection to Trivia (disambiguation) (secondary option; however, it does not seem this redirect refers to Trivia, but also doesn't seem to accurately describe any of the subjects listed at Trivia (disambiguation) either). Steel1943 (talk) 19:04, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Too specific for it to be useful, and there's no target or topic that this could possibly refer to. CycloneYoris talk! 19:42, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Divine philosophy

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Religious philosophy. plicit 22:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems this redirect, as titled, could also accurately describe or reference the subject at Religious philosophy. Steel1943 (talk) 18:58, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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God Talk

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 11#God Talk

Uncaused cause & Uncaused causer

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 19:34, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Seems the redirect Uncaused cause has had a bit of a back-and-forth with its target over the years. At the end of it all, these two redirects have different targets when they probably should have the same target. Between Cosmological argument and Unmoved mover, I'm thinking these should both target Unmoved mover since it seems like a topic which is included in Cosmological argument which the redirects refer rather than the argument itself. Steel1943 (talk) 18:43, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Cosmological argument in Islamic philosophy

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Cosmological argument. plicit 22:56, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From reading the target article, it does not seem clear that if the word "Kalam" or variations is excluded from the search term that the nominated redirect refers exclusively to the target. It seems that the target refers to a specific type of "Cosmological argument in Islamic philosophy" and not all possible types of "Cosmological argument in Islamic philosophy". It seems the article Cosmological argument goes into a bit of detail about cosmological argument and Islamic philosophy without mentioning any specific one, so it may be worth retargeting the nominated redirect there. Steel1943 (talk) 18:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Knook (chess)

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. CSD G7: the creator of the redirect has now requested deletion by adding a speedy deletion tag to the page. JBW (talk) 21:07, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Knook" as a name is purely an internet meme and, as such, is not reported in reliable secondary sources. When the redirect was created, this was listed as an alternate name for the piece, which got reverted as vandalism. The page this redirects to is currently locked due to people trying to add this name. This may fall under G3 of speedy deletion criteria. Randi Moth (talk) 18:00, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Hmmm... As a normal chess player (not any of the variants that add other chess peices), I have never heard of the Empress before too. But, I digress. A search only finds forums (unreliable) that use the term. Someone-123-321 (talk) 02:46, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No use in any
WP:RS. — The Anome (talk) 08:44, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
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Ginseng coffee

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The result of the discussion was converted to article and retarget
(non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 19:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Not mentioned on the page it is targeted to.

WP:BLARred in 2013 and Ginseng Coffee was a redirect to it until it resolved just to Coffee to avoid double redirect. TartarTorte 17:50, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Convert to article
    Ginseng Coffee to that article. — The Anome (talk) 08:46, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Vinkov

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 22:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prod denied. There is no indication that Vinkov Vrh is known as Vinkov. UtherSRG (talk) 16:38, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Clearly a useful redirect given there is nothing else with the name. I see no value in deleting a redirect in this way. If someone knows the first element of the name but not the second then it would take them to the article. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Vinkov isn't Vinkov Vrh, like Baton isn't Baton Rouge. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • The difference, of course, is that Baton is actually a word with its own disambiguation page (on which Baton Rouge does appear, incidentally!). Redirects are merely there to assist readers. Deleting this would be no more than unnecessary pedantry and not helpful in any way. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:59, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      That's a
      Baton Rouge (or its target Baton Rouge, Louisiana). (And see my "delete" vote for why I disagree with your statement "Deleting this would be no more than unnecessary pedantry and not helpful in any way.". Steel1943 (talk) 18:49, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
      ]
  • Delete per nom. In addition, having readers pigeonholed into going to an article where this term is a
    WP:PTM with no evidence it is an alternative name harms readers by preventing them from using Wikipedia's search results to locate other articles which may mention or go by (fully or partially) this term. Steel1943 (talk) 18:49, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Because this means "
    WP:POTENTIAL to expand the disambiguation page, it's no better than the search engine for a hit and worse in case of a miss, so it's fair to get rid of it. --Joy (talk) 14:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Neera Arya

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 09:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Its a

WP:HOAX
. No historical sources cover it. Only fringe fake news websites promote this fake subject.

Best to delete it. Editorkamran (talk) 04:53, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep I found https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/features/freedom-fighter-arya-dies-at-98-267948. The Tribune is a reliable source. Someone-123-321 (talk) 06:30, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ram Krishan Arya is not Neera Arya. Jay 💬 06:36, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
facepalm: I was going to edit my comment to reflect that, but just pretend my vote was a !delete Someone-123-321 (talk) 06:39, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I found both a WikiData entry (Q108708829) and an entire Wikimedia Commons category for this probably-real, probably-fake, probably-a-bit-of-both fringe thing. Someone-123-321 (talk) 06:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore and AfD. Courtesy ping Materialscientist who had speedy deleted an earlier version as an A7, and Onel5969 who had reviewed the current version. Jay 💬 06:36, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jay: AfD would be waste of time. This is a hoax and should be treated as a hoax. Also see the below comment. Editorkamran (talk) 11:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ignore earlier vote and vote as delete Not mentioned in current target. However, looking at the history, I found an older version with 6 sources that looked good enough. So, either delete or restore. Someone-123-321 (talk) 06:51, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Someone-123-321 I have analyzed the sources below. Dympies (talk) 11:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
None of this satisfies
WP:HISTRS. Its a hoax that has been promoted by like-minded unreliable publications, nothing else. Dympies (talk) 11:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Delete Yeah, I am still relatively new to this RfD gig (and Wikipedia as a whole), so the many policies WP have still confuse me to no avail. As for the reason why I !delete, per @Dympies Someone-123-321 (talk) 02:40, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Ring of regular functions

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The result of the discussion was keep. There was no support for the suggested morphism article, and one of the participants felt that the current target may be ok. The retarget suggestion of the Regular function redirect, and the phrasing changes at the affine and morphism articles suggested by D.Lazard may be done independently. Jay 💬 14:59, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

coordinate ring (also linked there and also redirecting to Affine variety), so I suggest it be redirected to the morphism article instead. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:29, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at Talk:Affine ring, Talk:Regular function, and Talk:Morphism of algebraic varieties for further participation.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 03:44, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For an opinion on the
Regular function to Morphism of algebraic varieties. Jay 💬 07:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
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Saridharam

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 09:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless there is clarity on whether the religion of the Santal people is referred to by the word "sari". See a previous RfD about Sari Santal created by the same creator and which pointed to the same target. Jay 💬 02:45, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It's difficult to explain why... Someone-123-321 (talk) 06:52, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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