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14 September 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Similar work in Indian history and clans, including List of Jat dynasties and states (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and recreation of Dalal (clan) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) —twotwofourtysix(My talk page and contributions) 09:53, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Confirmed, see next report. -- zzuuzz (talk) 06:58, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

14 September 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Hind ji and Naseeb2468 were blocked last month by SpacemanSpiff per

WP:AFD
process.

Note: There is a fourth account, RS6784, which may or may not be directly involved with the others, although that account is on its own path due to disruptive editing as well.

All of the accounts listed, with exception to RS6784, have been blocked. Due to ongoing block evasion, I respectfully request a check for additional sleepers.

Thank you for your time and please don't hesitate to contact me if there are any additional questions or concerns. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 19:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Adding History2468 (talk · contribs) and Wiki78787 (talk · contribs) for aid/consideration during CU investigation. These accounts were also blocked by SpacemanSpiff as suspected socks. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 22:51, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Naseeb2468, RJ2468, and Wiki78787 are confirmed. Hind ji and History2468 are independently  Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely), but more possible than likely. RS6784 is just  Possible.  No sleepers
    immediately visible. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:07, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  •  Tagged. Archiving. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 02:03, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

14 October 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


Too much similarity with previous sock

Fram (talk) 07:54, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
]

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  •  Possible. Similar geolocation, different devices and ISPs. You'll have to rely on behavior for this one. Standard disclaimer about caste being one of those areas where multiple people will just "show up" and we can't really prove off-wiki coordination. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:28, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This case is being reviewed by

clerk
. Please allow her to process the entire case without interference. You may pose any questions or concerns either on her talk page or on this page.

  • CIR. It doesn't look like they're going to be unblocked anytime soon, so I'm not going to do too deep a dive here.  Tagged as a suspected sock (noting that Hind ji was also never proven/confirmed to Naseeb) and calling it a day. (I'll also leave a note at the unblock request pointing here.) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 04:52, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
    ]

07 November 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

This user created a new account impersonating me and redirected his page to my account [3] in trying to jeopardize my account and using it to vandalize various pages. Aj indiana was blocked on November 5, 2021 as he was reported by me for edit warring. Please look at this evidence for more information where the user wanted me blocked. [4] and I am pretty sure that he created this account with intention to jeopardize my account. Please block the account indefinitely of Mohmood20. MehmoodS (talk) 08:23, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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06 November 2021

 – Vanjagenije (talk) 23:02, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suspected sockpuppets

a) The blocked account (Mohmood20) has redirected their userpage to the page for the sockpuppeteer (User:MehmoodS)

b) Very similar names and both users have edited similar pages.

TALK) 19:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • As of right now, there's no temporal overlap between the two accounts, so by our conventions, it's not socking and I'm going to close this.

@

WP:ILLEGIT to be sure you understand under what circumstance having multiple accounts is allowed. If you have any questions, please ask before you do any more editing. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:39, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
]

@RoySmith:It's not my account but someone impersonating me. I believe its the user Aj Indiana [5] who was reported by me for Edit warring and was blocked on 5 November 2021. Seems like he created a new account impersonating me in trying to jeopardize my account. [6]. Please block account of Mohmood20. MehmoodS (talk) 07:40, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

15 March 2022

Suspected sockpuppets


  • Restored a version of edit that was made by the sockpuppet [7]
  • Note the string 'Ghirth' in the name of the sock puppet and the User:Himachali chaudhary's profile.
  • Himachali chaudhary was blocked on 16 Feb 2022 with talk page access revoked on 23 Feb 2022. Ghirth Jat made their first edit on 25 Feb 2022
  • Substantial interaction in the same editing area (Jat related) [8].

Seem like a

WP:DUCK. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

Sock puppetry continues [9]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:00, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Would like to ping admins familiar with this blocked user @Bishonen, Ohnoitsjamie, Blablubbs, and Primefac:. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:03, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • It seems highly likely that Ghirth Jat is a sock of Himachali chaudhary. The date of creation suggests it, as does the promotion of the same caste, the similarly limited competence in English, and certain other habits as well. E. g. both of them move pages, something few caste promoters do. I have blocked as a duck. Bishonen | tålk 09:29, 19 March 2022 (UTC). And tagged. Bishonen | tålk 11:20, 19 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]
I concur with the
WP:DUCK assessment. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:57, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

12 May 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

I request for merging this to the last sock investigation of Naseeb2468 here-[[10]]. The account is only interested in adding word "Jat" to the page - [[11]], similar case is of Wikidellhi on another pages and on all of their pages Aj indiana a sock of Naseeb2468 was active diff here [[12]], same with Hind ji another sock of Naseeb2468.

talk) 12:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • I ran a check on Warrior 695; they appear to be Red X Unrelated. With only 3 edits total, there's not enough history here to make any kind of behavioral evaluation. As I noted in 10 May 2022, this is a popular topic. Closing with no action. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

10 May 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

The new account Wikidellhi consistently trying to push "Jat" on

talk) 11:51, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

Just see here an IP is also active probably of the same account on the same page to push word "Jat" there diff - [[19]], timing difference of just 3 minutes and having same edit.

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I don't know if these two are socks or not, but it looks to me as if

Fram (talk) 13:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  •  In progress - -- RoySmith (talk) 13:09, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Historyindia1 and Wikidellhi are both  Likely based on CU data. However, the IP ranges are wide and the device types are not uncommon for this region of the world, so I'm hesitant to put too much faith in CU, i.e.  Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. Also, south-asian social groups are a popular topic, often with highly polarized points of view, so I'm going to leave this to somebody who is more attune to the nuances of those areas. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:29, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pink clock Awaiting administrative action - I'm convinced that Historyindia1 is a sock based on the CU results & evidence provided by Fram. Please indef Historyindia1. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 20:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Blocked and tagged. Closing. firefly ( t · c ) 20:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

07 June 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

addition of unsourced "Jat" word to Puran Mal here [[21]] similar to lots of banned socks of Naseeb2468 here-[[22]], ditto restoring same thing again.Akalanka820 (talk) 17:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Activity on Anjana Chaudhari here [[23]] similar to a Naseeb2468 sock named Wikidellhi. Akalanka820 (talk) 17:26, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear RoySmith, Wikidellhi is banned for being sock of Naseeb2468. And if this is connected to other banned accounts as you said then I think the action should be what is for sock accounts.Akalanka820 (talk) 16:00, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, they're blocked (not banned) for being
WP:NOTHERE [24] and they are tagged as suspected of being a sock of Naseeb2468. What I meant by I still don't have anything that definitively ties this group back to Naseeb2468 is there's nothing in the CU data that confirms the connection. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:59, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
Dear Admin, thanks for explaining it. I do get your point now but I have one query here. Your data suggests that Wikidellhi is related to Smith Jats. Wikidellhi is already blocked for other reason. So, isn't it a case of block evasion by this account Smith Jats irrespective of whether they are connected to Naseeb2468 or not? I think I should have added another blocked account Aj Indiana which was declared as sock. These accounts definitely have some overlap with that account more compared to Naseeb2468. Akalanka820 (talk) 10:23, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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01 June 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

Brandnew account starts editing

Fram (talk) 14:56, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. I would request admin editor RoySmith to delete this new page [[27]] created by the sock which is outright copying of another article here [[28]] with the same first name. Akalanka820 (talk) 18:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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12 October 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

Similar focus on the

Ballabgarh State, List of Jat dynasties and states, etc.; created Sisam, Sind, which is a translation of Historyindia1's article at hi:सीसम; and so on and so forth. Requesting CU mainly to look for sleepers (the previous accounts are probably stale). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:28, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

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  •  In progress - -- RoySmith (talk) 22:50, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • History1458 is  Confirmed to Historyindia1. I'll dual-tag this. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:59, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

24 February 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Tushir0001 freely admits to sockpuppetry with Tushir Aryan and others at their talk page, "because you guys keep blocking me", particularly in this edit [29]. I can't find a username similar to "Tushir Prerit" (or Tushir, or Prerit), but they admit to User:Jat Raj, a sock of Naseeb2468. The edit history is similar: focusing on Indian history (particularly Jat history), cavalier pastes of copyright, etc.

Probably a good idea to check for sleepers. 2A01:4C8:63:A8F0:2C77:A3FF:FEB9:90C5 (talk) 14:18, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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03 March 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Same exact editing patterns of adding statements about the Jat caste to biographical articles (especially their short description) and posting standalone images in the intro lede of articles (compare this [30] edit by confirmed sock to this [31] one and this [32] one by suspected sock]). Here is an example of adding "Jat" to article short descriptons: here by confirmed sock and here by suspected sock. Account seems to have started its activity after the confirmed sock account

talk) 02:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk - there seems to be a continuation of the same editing pattern shortly after the last block round: [33]. MarioGom (talk) 10:35, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13 March 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

The user has the same pro-Jat bias, adding revisionist history, glorifying the Jat community of South Asia on different pages. CrashLandingNew (talk) 10:57, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also added Crusader1115. He/She is making edits on the same pages as the user reported and even reverted some of the changes as per preference of the latter. CrashLandingNew (talk) 10:22, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Instead of
WP:OR
? I always take care to provide proper page no., as well as quotations every time possible.
Thanks for notifying me on Sitush's talkpage for this, anyways.
Sutyarashi (talk) 13:14, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
You have used the opinion of an author, grouped it together with sources with no mention of Rajputana and have attempted to create a biased POV and that's exactly the reason you are calling me a sock Crusader1115 (talk) 10:44, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The
Sutyarashi (talk) 15:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

@

Sutyarashi (talk) 18:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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02 May 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Same pro-Jat bias, removal of well-sourced text to replace it with claimed Jat origins using outdated and unreliable British Raj-era sources, and attempts at establishing connections of historical figures to the Jat caste. Similar prose patterns.

Compare this dif with this dif by a confirmed past sock.

talk) 18:16, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • A single edit isn't enough to establish socking or justify a check. Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:34, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18 July 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Same editing area. Confirmed socks added the same content (non WP:HISTRS) over and over again after being reverted [41] [42] , same with the new one [43] [44] [45]/

Blocked socks had the same problem with the same source/content written notable historian, tries to remove the sources, parts of it or tries to downplay it [46] [47] [48] as the new one [49] [50] [51].

Editor interaction here. Requesting CU, since some of the previous blocked socks were simultaneously active. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:56, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Technically very  Likely; taking behaviour into account, I'm blocking and tagging as proven. I don't see any others. Closing. Girth Summit (blether) 12:49, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

23 January 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

JANTI KALAN, is a sock puppet of User:History1458 who was blocked one year ago as being a sock of User:Naseeb2468 by Roy Smith. Just after six or seven edits he started making major edits on List of Jat dynasties and states(JANTI KALAN)[52] and he made more than seventeen edits on this page just like History1458 who also made more than seventeen edits on same page. Both user also made edits on Ballabgarh (jagir)(JANTI KALAN)[53], (History 1458)[54].

Page

Bamraulia (clan) was created by Master Naseeb2468[55] later new sock JANTI KALAN[56] made edits on the same page. Master (Naseeb2468) and sock (JANTI KALAN) also made edits on Bharatpur State(Naseeb2468[57],JANTI KALAN[58]) and also on Suraj Mal(Naseeb2468[59]JANTI KALAN[60]
).

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  •  Clerk note: This whole filling was made by a sockpuppet of a blocked user. Vanjagenije (talk) 10:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just editing the same articles isn't enough for a check. I looked through some edits and they mostly pointed towards these being different users. no Closing without action. DatGuyTalkContribs 21:22, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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