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Need help writing/setting up Wiki article
Hi all,
I'm hoping someone can help me :) I've been assigned with setting up a Wiki page for our company, but I'm ridiculously confused the coding bit that you have to do to actually write the page :/ Is there anyone in this community that enjoys setting up pages?? MileenaKitana (talk) 05:30, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, MileenaKitana, and welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to help you create an article right now. However, I can suggest a route to creating your article in a way that it most likely wouldn't get deleted.
- First, however, I must tell you that, because of our Terms_of_Use, you must follow our Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest policies.
- Now that we have that required bit out of the way, onward to the highly recommended stuff. The one thing I strongly recommend using is our Articles for Submission process. This allows you to create a draft of the article you want to create and, when you're ready, you can then submit the draft for review. When a reviewer sees the draft (this can take a couple of weeks, as the process is usually backlogged), they will either approve it and take care of creating the actual article for you or they will decline it and suggest some things you should attempt to fix before you resubmit your draft. You can submit your draft as many times as you want, but, between each submission, you must try to fix the problem(s) the reviewer noted. You can, of course, contact the reviewer for more help, or even come back here, too.
- One more thing: Since you are attempting to write an article for a company, I should tell you that referencesin articles. If the company doesn't have anything written about them in a reliable source, then it's usually not notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia.
- I hope this helps you. I do realize it's a lot to take in. By the way, each link above leads to the specific policy or essay that talks about it.
- — Gestrid (talk) 06:26, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Wow that's a lot haha. Thanks Gestrid :D
- MileenaKitana (talk) 06:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- You're welcome, MileenaKitana. Like I said, I know it's a lot of information, but I hope it'll be able to help you. One other thing I forgot to mention: If you decide to create a draft, the reviewer will be someone who has created plenty of articles before and knows the ins and outs of creating them. — Gestrid (talk) 07:02, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Possible conflict of interest edits from IP address
I'm looking for assistance with the Staff and labour section of the McMaster University Library page. Edits to the section by the same IP address have been reverted by multiple editors, myself included, but the same edits continue to be made. After one of the most recent revisions I added a request for comment to the talk page, but the same edits from the same IP address continue. Despite looking over various help topics, I'm unsure how to proceed. To be clear, I didn't create the section, I'm just trying to find middle ground with regards to what's going on. Thanks! Dnllnd (talk) 23:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not a terribly experienced editor, but I've contributed to the article's talk page. I'll keep an eye on it and hopefully contribute some actual page edits (or proposed on the talk page). TheCrazedBeast (talk) 03:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- I've also added the article and its talk page to my ) 04:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi ) 07:13, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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WAit how do I recover my work hep I had some done thanks 08:17, 5 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyouedit (talk • contribs)
Why?This page I thought it was like word you could save stuff wtf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Allyouedit/sandbox 07:57, 5 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyouedit (talk • contribs)
FOUR FOUR FOUR FOUR FOUR times NOT FOR THIS SITE NOT YOUR RULES HAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyouedit (talk • contribs) 08:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
How is?Sorry mistyped and pressed I was asking how is this I'm not posting on here it's not for here. 07:39, 5 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyouedit (talk • contribs)
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How to change the image in the page preview
Hi, I have the page preview function enabled and I love it. It often tells you exactly what you need to know about a subject without having to interrupt your reading and without having to open a new article. Most of the times, the image in the preview is spot on, but sometimes, the image is that of another picture in the article and it becomes deceitful. I want to be able to change the picture in the page preview to better reflect what an article is about or simply to put a more accurate image. How do I go about changing an image in the page preview function?
Thanks! Ṗḯƥỡȵẘẩ (talk) 06:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- It may be worth seeing whether an image is called up in the Wikidata item for the page in question. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:47, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Piponwa: This is a known issue which will be fixed Beevil (talk) 09:37, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Half of a birth date is unknown so...
Hello! I'm currently creating an article about someone, but the only information given about when they were born is the year. Not the month or day. When I add just the year as the birth date it gives me several error codes because they want the day and month as well, but it's unknown for this person. How do I surpass this?Depthburg (talk) 09:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Depthburg: this page (alone of all Wikipedia discussion pages) has new threads at the top. So I have moved your question. Maproom (talk) 10:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- I see that another editor has now dealt with the birth date problem. Maproom (talk) 10:32, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hello @) 10:33, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you and will do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Depthburg (talk • contribs) 10:44, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Elmer Wheeler page
I edited content from Elmer Wheeler.net and I can see it was rejected due to the copyright issue. My bad, I guess I forgot about this. However, I feel strongly that Elmer Wheeler did very well in his life and produced a lot of very good information that many copy, it would be good to highlight that he is the source of much of this kind of material.
I wrote a new version that I could polish up with links to sources and so on, that loosely would read as follows, could you tell me if this approach would be acceptable?
Elmer Wheeler was one of the first great sales speakers who was forced to enter the sales profession as a result of the economic changes that blighted the thirties in the US and elsewhere. A former journalist he already had a close understanding of the power of words and realised that the power in sales, as it is in journalism is in the first ten words that you say. From there he created a series of one liners and commanded an extensive following and was ultimately the only sales speaker to be awarded an Oscar. Elmer was very influential to a lot of people and his influence has spanned generations.
I could edit this and add links to videos, his list of books, some of which are still available on Amazon.
I have no affiliation with the website the person, the family or any other connection I am simply a fan of his work and was surprised he was not on wikipedia and this is a person who should be celebrated and understood as he provides in my opinion a lot of value and will save people who are entering sales for the first time a lot of short cuts.
I just wrote this from the heart. If I am now going in the right direction with this I can edit it up and turn it into something that I would hope would not infringe the copyright. By the way I did notice that when you look at the terms and conditions of the site in question that there does not appear to be anyone admitting to ownership of the content. David White (talk) 23:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, notability guidelines for people.
- Instead of using reliablesourcees.
- As for your second point, it is true that nobody owns content on Wikipedia. Actually, anyone is free to reuse content they find on Wikipedia, provided they license it correctly. (Also see Wikipedia:Copyrightsas well.)
- — Gestrid (talk) 23:25, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
thanks guys David White (talk) 10:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Customizing User Page?
This kinda dumb but anyways. Just wondering if there are ways to customize your user page. Thanks Catteth75 (talk) 12:59, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hey TimothyJosephWood13:13, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, i will take a look :) Catteth75 (talk) 13:26, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Won't I actually get a barnstar for completing the Wiki adventure?
Even though I have been editing for quite some time, I decided to complete the WikiAdventure to see what its about. In the end Gaia Girl, gave me a barnstar, but that did not actually reach me in my real talk page. Is that how it is?
- Its all right, I found the barnstar talk) 06:53, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
I thought you might get a barnstar for the wikipedia tour User:Gestrid. Adityavagarwal (talk) 18:32, 3 December 2016 (UTC) User:Gestrid?Adityavagarwal —Preceding undated comment added 14:17, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
banker Institute for Rural Development(BIRD)
What is the problem with my page? Why it can not be uploaded M K Pathak 13:31, 5 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkpathak20 (talk • contribs)
- Hey copyright violation. Rather, the content must be written in the author's own words.
- If you would like to rewrite the article in your own words, you may want to try submitting it to our TimothyJosephWood13:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- But please understand, Mkpathak20, that Wikipedia has no interest at all in what any subject says or thinks about themselves. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about it. Therefore, if we are to have an article about BIRD, it must be almost 100% based on published material that is completely independent of BIRD - and note that though the Indiabiz site itself may be independent of BIRD, the text you copied clearly comes from BIRD, and so is not acceptable as a source for a Wikipedia article on it.
- Furthermore, as the deputy General Manager you have a PAID.
- Furthermore, as the deputy General Manager you have a
- If you decide to go ahead and try to write an article on BIRD, please, after making the required declarations, read and follow Your first article. Then understand that the best way to achieve an article which is accepted is to find a number of reliable independent sources that discuss BIRD in depth; and having found them, forget every single thing you know about the Institute and write a draft (using the articles for creation process) solely based on what these independent sources say about it. --ColinFine (talk) 14:12, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- If you decide to go ahead and try to write an article on BIRD, please, after making the required declarations, read and follow
- (references to significant coverage of the topic in published reliable sources independent of the subject. There are a number of other useful links on your user talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:20, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
information removed
may you say why the information of Sakuchia Badiuzzaman Dakhil Madrasah removed. Adityavagarwal (talk) 14:12, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Adityavagarwal: when you added information to Sakuchia Badiuzzaman Dakhil Madrasah, you also deleted a tag showing that it has been proposed for deletion. Your edit was reverted in this edit so as to restore the tag. However, you were justified in removing the tag, and it has now been re-removed and the information you added has been restored. Maproom (talk) 14:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Your edit (to Sakuchia Badiuzzaman Dakhil Madrasah, as you forgot to provide a link) was mistakenly reverted by another editor, but his error was subsequently reversed and the other editor was warned as to their error. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:27, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- why to warn the editor? it might be a small mistake by him so it is ok right? because he might not have seen something so he might have made an error or something so why to even warn the editor? you could instead have said to him that he made a small mistake instead of warning him right? Adityavagarwal (talk) 15:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hey TimothyJosephWood15:20, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hey
- In this case, it was pointed out to JudeccaXIII that they were not allowed to reinstate the deletion tag that Adityavagarwal had removed, and they were advised to read User talk:JudeccaXIII#Your reinstating of a prod tag. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- In this case, it was pointed out to JudeccaXIII that they were not allowed to reinstate the deletion tag that Adityavagarwal had removed, and they were advised to read
How Do I create the Thing with info of the indvidual?
Hi All
I Hope this question is answered as this is the only Question I have To Finish Before Making My First Page. How Do you Make the Row at the top with the individual's Picture and his info such as-Gender, Birth date, Death Date, Signature And His Family like those things. Please Tell me It's Name And How To Create it.
Thanks HyperDracoHyperdraco (talk) 07:08, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hey there! What you need to do is add a template called infobox person and then edit it to add in the information you have.
- A.s.jones (talk) 07:11, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
A.s.jones, while you are correct in this case, I would suggest that you become a little more familiar with Wikipedia's guidelines and rules before attempting to answer more questions from other new editors here. You don't want to accidentally give them bad advice. — Gestrid (talk) 07:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)That was out of line. — Gestrid (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- (Articles for Creation process to submit a draft for review and either approved or declined with feedback by a reviewer who has a lot of experience in creating articles. Again, feel free to reply here if you have any more questions. — Gestrid (talk) 07:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)) 04:13, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Rollbacker request
Hello and my name is Lipstick and Luggage, I'm new in Wikipedia in the last few days. I guess I would promote to be a administrator in a year or Rollbacker in a month? I would prefer that dream job please in Wikipedia. LAL (talk
- Hello, @Lipstick and Luggage:, and welcome to the Teahouse. That's a fun username you've chosen for yourself, but if there's a cultural allusion in there, I missed it.
- As for Rollbacker and Admin jobs, all I can say is "Whoa there, pardner!" Those kinds of things will come for people who demonstrate over a fairly long period of time that they have learned how Wikipedia policies and guidelines work and that they are here to help with the project of building an encyclopedia. For now, I suggest you concentrate on making the sorts of improvements that any editor can make; there's certainly plenty of work remaining to be done. —jmcgnh(talk) (contribs)
- Iridescent15:42, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
- Plus, it will take years (I'm not exaggerating) to gain enough community trust and experience to even consider running for adminship. A current Request for Adminship that is likely to pass successfully is for a user who has been here for eight years. Another one that seems like it may fail is for a user who has been registered here for two years. Another one that passed a few months ago was for a user who has been here nearly ten years!
- Also, I should tell you that Wikipedia is not a race to collect all the user rights. The truth is, if your only goal in the long run is to become an administrator, you likely won't become one.
- However, if you just edit or create articles about the topics you love (while following the rules, such as citing reliable sources, etc.), you will most definitely gain the community's trust.
- By the way, the only way to get user rights such as Rollback, you'll need to at least two things: a reason you should have the user right and why you can be trusted with it. Neither of these will be achievable simply by telling someone that stuff. To my knowledge (I'm not someone who can assign user rights), one of the main things an administrator looks at when deciding whether or not you can be trusted with a user right (like Rollback) is your editing history. For Rollback rights, one of the main things they probably look for in your editing history is evidence of countering attempted vandalism.
- tl;dr: Basically, the only way you can get the user rights you've asked about is by editing. Your editing habits show a lot about your character, which shows whether or not you can be trusted with certain user rights. Your editing habits also show how experienced you are with some things, which shows whether or not you'll know what you're doing if you do get a user right.
- — Gestrid (talk) 08:25, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Given the website, that seems like an awfully elaborate setup for a sock. —jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 18:37, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Jmcgnh: Who said the website was actually owned by the sock? They were probably masquerading as the owner of the website. — Gestrid (talk) 18:42, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Gestrid: Did I say the website was owned by the sock? Could be either way, but the correspondence between the website and the user page was pretty convincing and the edit history looked plausible, even the over-enthusiasm to become an admin (why would an experienced sock play it that way?). What I was trying to convey is how impressed I was by how elaborate this setup appears to have been. I have no idea how checkusers do their job, but I'm even more baffled by what motivates sock puppeteers. A long-game con? —jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 18:57, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Jmcgnh: Who said the website was actually owned by the sock? They were probably masquerading as the owner of the website. — Gestrid (talk) 18:42, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Given the website, that seems like an awfully elaborate setup for a sock. —jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 18:37, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Adding a musician/artist to Wiki. Elles Bailey
Hi there, I am trying to add an artist called Elles Bailey to Wiki. She is a fantastic blues artist from Bristol. I have added her in drafts and am trying to get it right but its complicated to get this correct and I want to be 100% factual. Henrywilliams (talk) 16:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- This is about ) 17:27, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Following on from Maproom's reply, details of how to cite the references can be found at Help:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:35, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, NMUSIC, which is a list of exceptions to the general biography requirements for musicians, to see if she qualifies under any of them. John from Idegon (talk) 19:46, 5 December 2016 (UTC)as the same. Why? 109.155.85.198 (talk) 18:31, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Capitals and Lowercase
When creating links on Wikipedia it does not recognise test page 1 and Test Page 1
- Hi,
- Because case is significant in page names, with the exception of the first letter of the title. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:38, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- But why do it this way??? Why not change it??? It's a bad system
- 109.155.85.198 (talk) 18:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's not necessarily bad or good. It's just the way the MediaWiki software was designed. — Gestrid (talk) 18:45, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Well IT is bad and should be updated... why don't members vote on it.
- 82.132.212.21 (talk) 19:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's not as simple as "voting and deciding it's bad". It would require a fundamental rewrite of the MediaWiki software, which would require extensive development and testing. My guess is that would take a long time and probably millions of pounds to do. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:21, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's not necessarily bad or good. It's just the way the MediaWiki software was designed. — Gestrid (talk) 18:45, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's a good thing because it allows links to article titles using a lowercase initial letter without having to pipe the link: "Throughout the history of New York..." Subsequent capitals in article titles follow the normal rule of English orthography that only proper nouns get a capital first letter. In fact your second example title "Test Page 1" is incorrect unless the phrase is a proper name of something such as the title of a book, artwork, etc. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:27, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's a feature of the MediaWiki software which is used by thousands of wikis. There has only been a few requests to change it like phab:T2453 and phab:T4174. Most people seem to like it or not care. It means you can have different pages like Gold and GOLD. Poor capitalization should be fixed whether or not it breaks a link. If it does break a link then it does more damage but is also more likely to be improved or avoided. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:31, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Redirect question
Hi, I was wondering to what extent redirects could be used, specifically in the redirect
- Hey TimothyJosephWood22:02, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- In the case that an article could be created about it in the future, be sure to put the following, including the curly braces, starting on the line after the next line after the redirect:
- {{Rcat shell|
- {{R with possibilities}}
- }}
- That will correctly categorize the redirect as one that could be expanded into its own article in the future.
- — Gestrid (talk) 22:12, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- In the case that an article could be created about it in the future, be sure to put the following, including the curly braces, starting on the line after the next line after the redirect:
Do Private Schools count as Promotional?
Hey, I was wondering if I could create a Wikipedia page on local private schools, or if that would be flagged as promotional? Please tell me if I can or can not. Thanks! Bob2357 (talk) 20:31, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, Wikipedia:Your first article. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:41, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi ) 23:13, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Working on Lori A. Williams - Draft Article
I'm working on a draft article for Lori A. Williams, jazz singer. I received some help from editors several nights and was told that she needed to meet the nobility checklist. I had Lori go through and give her responses. Can I have an editor now review the notability list in an effort to get the draft approved?
Kambui (talk) 20:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hey TimothyJosephWood20:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Also, it sounds as though there may be a conflict of interest if the Original Poster had the subject of the article check it, which implies that they are working for her. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:08, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Also, it sounds as though there may be a
displaying graphics in sandbox
Hi, I uploaded a graphic to my sandbox but I don't see it anywhere. When I tried to upload it a second time, thinking I must have done something wrong, it showed that it had been uploaded. Does anyone know where my graphic is and how I can get it to display? Franza615 (talk) 23:55, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Franza615. commons:Special:Contributions/Franza615 shows you uploaded File:Lifecycle EPA.jpg. Uploading a file and displaying it in page are two unrelated operations. I see you use VisualEditor. Click "Insert", select "Media" and enter the file name to get started. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:11, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
I Receive A Error in my sandbox.
Hi All
i am using infoboxes now and am receiving a Message That Says-"WARNING: Page Using Template:Infobox Character with unknown parameter "weight" (this message is shown in preview)".
The Character Is A Fictional One And is giving me 6 other messages like the one above.
Please Help Me at The Earliest convenience
Thanks-Hyperdraco (talk) 13:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi TimothyJosephWood 13:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)) 04:19, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Hyperdraco: The allowable parameters to use in any template are built into the template. You can't make up your own parameters to use with an existing template, any more than you can make the turn signal on your car indicate "right, then left, then right again" in a single signal. --Thnidu (talk) 01:38, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Modifications to a current entry
What can we do if we know that an entry or a subject covered in Wikipedia contains false information?Gaetanchevalier (talk
- Welcome to the Teahouse. In your case, ) 04:27, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi relevant policies and guidelines. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)) 05:22, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Create a wikipedia page for a fake town for educational purposes
hello - can i create a wikipedia page for a fake town for educational purposes? we are creating a story world for a university course using a transmedia approach. the town at the center of the story world needs a wikipedia page... what is the best way to do this? Thank-you :) Dinmorsp (talk
- Hi Wikiaor another similar website for such a project.
- Now, on the other hand, if you create something for your university course which does end up receiving significant coverage in independent reliable sources, then it might be possible for an article to be written about the project as long as it was done in a ) 05:40, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- ) 11:38, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Can I use cached versions of now-deleted web pages as references?
I am researching the early life of Scottish singer Paolo Nutini. I came across some good biographical info in a PDF published in 2008 by the William Morris Agency (WMA) who represented Nutini. While the PDF is obviously promotional in intent, it's safe to assume that it would have been read and approved by Nutini, making it more or less an 'authorized biography' - a pretty respectable reference.
Here's the thing: WMA merged with the Endeavor Talent Agency in 2009 and the PDF was not ported across to the new company's Website. However Google, Wayback Machine (web.archive.org) and others still have cached versions of the PDF; see https://web.archive.org/web/20081122133805/http://www.wma.com/paolo_nutini/Bio/paolo_nutini_bio.pdf.
Is such a link acceptable as a cite reference? And if so, how should the cite be constructed to make clear it WAS a WMA-published page, but now available through, say, web.archive.org? What Access Date should be used: today's date or the date it was cached? So many questions, lol. Thanks for any help that anyone can provide. Jimbilsborough (talk) 03:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Wikipedia:Citing sources in the section titled "Preventing and repairing dead links" specifically recommends using such web-archiving services when the original website has gone down. Do be sure to make a good-faith search for other sources as well, including print sources. --Jayron32 03:06, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Jayron32. It made sense to me that it's a legitimate approach, but I failed to see the paragraph you mentioned (I looked, honest)! There are a couple of more authoritative facts in that article than anything I've found in ANY other media, but I was reluctant to use it without checking first. Jimbilsborough (talk) 03:14, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi WP:ABOUTSELF. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Also, a source that isn't independent can't be used to show that the subject is notable enough for an article in the first place. —teb728 t c 07:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Indeed - I was going to mention that, but didn't given that this is WP:ABOUTSELF Jimbilsborough (talk) 16:16, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Indeed - I was going to mention that, but didn't given that this is
- Also, a source that isn't independent can't be used to show that the subject is notable enough for an article in the first place. —teb728 t c 07:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Editing off line ?
I would like to download a Wikipedia page. Copy Edit it and then upload it. Can I do this? Which Windows program and/or file format would be good to use for spelling and gammer checking ?
FDLeyda (talk) 15:22, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hey TimothyJosephWood17:36, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not only is there no rule against it, it is often undetectable if you choose to edit offline this way.
- A few things to be aware of, though, to make this work
- You have to download the wikitext from the edit window. You can't copy/paste from the page as displayed for users.
- Word is not great for this purpose because it is hard to control some of the things it does to the text with its "save as plain text" operation. You want a plain text editor (I like Notepad++ on Windows; I see there's a Wiki plugin for Notepad++, but I've not used it).
- When offline, you do not have the ability to completely preview the changes
- If you spend too long editing offline, other edits to the page may occur, creating an edit conflict. Depending on how much has changed, it can be a tough task to merge your edits with those edits. Blithely clobbering those edits is not acceptable behavior.
- Automated spelling and grammar checking have their limitations. Please tell us you have good judgment about these tools, or we'll think you are likely to do more bad than good.
- But use whatever approach and whatever tools work best for you. And welcome back to the Teahouse, @FDLeyda:. —jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 19:33, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- If you'd prefer to create a draft while remaining online, you can create a page like, for example, User:FDLeyda/sandbox. You could also create a page like User:FDLeyda/Article name instead if you prefer. — Gestrid (talk) 22:18, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you.
- May I ask how you do it ? There is no substitute for experience.
- 96.89.55.165 (talk) 13:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- First, I suggest you login and, if you're not on a public computer, check the box that says "Remember me" when you do. That will keep you logged in for up to one year, provided you don't click the log out button. Not logging in reveals your IP address, which in turn reveals your general location.
- If you're asking how to create your sandbox, all you have to do is click the link I gave you above and then click "Save page". — Gestrid (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Need Help With Formatting My First Article
Hello, I am excited to join the Wikipedia family and to share more about the wonderful culture and cultural figures of The Bahamas.
I've written my first article about Bahamian entertainer, "K.B. (Kirkland Bodie)", and it has been flagged as promotional.
I tried to keep it as simple as possible and included as many references as were available.
Please offer any suggestions or rewrites for an improved format.
With thanks,
Bahamian Culture (talk) 06:58, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hello WP:NMUSIC. --Gronk Oz (talk) 07:42, 4 December 2016 (UTC). FYI, most of my sources are official Bahamas news media sources. I have also referenced a book, official government and academic website sources. As you noted, I included the reference point immediately after the "cultural legend" statement. That reference was from an article covering an official government ceremony, honouring 42 Bahamian cultural icons, including K.B. Please review my redraft and feel free to make any further suggestions.
- Hello Gronk Oz, thanks for your review and quick response. As you suggested, I have revised and reposted the article in my userspace at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bahamian_Culture/K.B._(Kirkland_Bodie)
- Bahamian Culture (talk) 01:24, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Bahamian Culture I'm glad you were able to get a copy back into your user space. For future use, a better way to link to your article is to use a Wikilink thus: [[User:Bahamian Culture/K.B. (Kirkland Bodie)]], instead of using the whole URL like you did above. About your particular article, I'm probably not the best person to review it - music is not my topic at all. However, a lot of informal, promotional type wording catches even my eye, like "His passion for music and performing blossomed", " embarking on his music career", " the band gained national acclaim for its original songs with a Bahamian music edge", "K.B., a prolific writer and a budding music producer[7] was inspired by ... (looooong list of names)", "With a desire to create more authentically Bahamian music, the singer embarked on a solo career" and so on: these are not the sort of statements one normally finds in an encyclopedic article. The good news is that it can be fixed. I see that you have already contacted the Admin who deleted it (SwisterTwister), and it might be worthwhile to contact the reviewer who nominated the previous version for deletion (Reddogsix). Explain to them that you are trying to fix the problems with promotional wording in the previous version that led to its deletion. They may be willing to help; otherwise suitable people might be contacted through Wikipedia:WikiProject Music. --Gronk Oz (talk) 04:22, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Gronk Oz Thanks again for your advice. I looked at quite a number of other musician and artist bios on Wikipedia and compared them to what I wrote, before posting. I don't find my article any more promotional than some of what I've seen and I had credible references for virtually everything I noted. I'll revise it again based on your observations and hopefully, then, they can steer me through it. Best regards, Bahamian Culture (talk) 18:31, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Defining the "Rule of Law" is generally recognised as a huge problem but my edit re this are deleted
Hi. The Rule of Law page contains a definition of the Rule of Law that is very trite. I've tried to make minor edits such as referencing the general definition to a potential author. However, when I go back to the page the trite old definition of the Rule of Law is back in place.
How to define the Rule of Law is a massive and international debate, and the Rule of Law page does not reflect that.
The page is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law
What should I do next in order to contribute information about the debate to the page?
Thanks :)
Ritafelgate (talk) 04:06, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- @consensus for the changes you are proposing. The fact that at least one editor disagrees shows the need for talk page discussion. Work it out. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:19, 7 December 2016 (UTC)) 05:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
How to create an education organization page
How to create an education organization pageThanchanokkim (talk
- Hello Thanchanokkim, and welcome to the Teahouse.
- I suggest you start by working on improving existing articles for a while before starting to create a new page. But if you want to dive in, I recommend that you read the essay
- Welcome to the Teahouse 05:48, 7 December 2016 (UTC)